Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[mrtree]

Just two videos tonight. I spent the evening taking the UA around the systems surrounding Azaleach & HIP 30130, because they had the lowest black market prices I'd seen & was trying to see if there was any life left in the price triangulation theory.

I think price triangulation is completely dead. All the systems I tried around them had higher (typical 180k) prices. Worse, Azaleach had it on the market for 169k Cr several days ago & it's now 181k there.

I recorded the UA (sounds/pulses) in HIP 29974 (lots of green) & HIP 30130 (more typical 3:2 purple/green). No sound abnormalities I could hear.

* HIP 29974 - https://youtu.be/vX2qLSuPcVY
* HIP 30130 - https://youtu.be/TLqXUY5v5Qk

 

[bartmoss]

It doesnt matter what you say. Even if your an expert in the morse code field. These people will hear what they want to hear. They will speed up the audio and slow it down for no scientific reason. They will change the pitch probably until they hear or think they are hearing something.

They will get the gobbledeegook letters and then start to rearrange them to spell something.

Have you considered contributing something constructive, or are you really just here to insult and troll the people who do?

 

[bartmoss]

So, if the UA is a Communicator and we have identified the Morse...well...lets take a look at the past.
We Humans have send Morse into space, right? And we have found Morse inside that chittering that we can translate.
Thargoids obviously use another language, and i have read somewhere that they use an Octagonal system, and someone back then tried to find an Octagonal system in that purr (i think he found it, but couldnt decode it).
So what about this:
The Chittering is OUR Language, the Purr/scream is THEIRS.
They want to teach us their language, they point at something, chitter it in what they know from us, and tell us what it is called in their language.
So if we analyze both of them and create an Thargoid alphabet based on that, would that make sense?

Morse isn't exactly a language, it's just a method of encoding latin characters. But I get what you are saying. The problem is that the patterns of the purrs can't be reproduced, while the morse part always stays the same in a given location. So we can rule out any "rosetta stone" theory involving the purrs.

The purrs are a binary sequence, but currently do not seem to carry any meaningful information. They aren't completely random - there are at maximum two consecutive 1's or 0's in them - but this hasn't helped us at all. Anyway, being binary, you can easily read them as numbers in any sort of way, it's just that this, again, produces nothing tangible.

 

[pretzil]

WEll the point is, if someone deplys a UA and me and you go listen to it.

The purrs I hear are not the same as the purrs you will hear.

In fact even the honks/wails aren;t likely to match.

This makes decoding purrs.... problematic.

I was wondering if perhaps it was ship position/distance in relation to the UA that would cause it to be heard different by two people in the same location? I expect the UA bearers would know more about this after spending more time than ejecting, positioning and recording them. Maybe, try a test of recording one from the side at a set distance and from directly in front at the same distance to confirm if it's the position of the ship that changes the sound heard? Then maybe the same at a different distance. Not sure this would help at all, but in a clutching at straws kind of way if at some distance/angle from the UA the Morse part becomes clear, then maybe the other two sounds would be as they are "supposed" to be heard.

This is entirely based on guesswork and our biggest clue so far of listening to them.

 

[bartmoss]

I've also just tried the following:

For the purrs, assume that a single digit = short, a double digit = long.

So for example, 01001 would be short short long short, 01100 would be short long long.

Doesn't produce anything meaningful from the sequences I tried it on, and there are sequences that don't match morse characters at all this way.

Anyway, still thought I'd mention it, maybe it gives someone else ideas.

 

[Wishblend]

The clip from what seems to be known as RedWizzard's video (technically it is MY video OF Red Wizzard, natch) is a bit of special case as there were so many Commanders floating around in close proximity that weird things started happening like the cargo duplication bug.

However, there is another video, from Wishblend, showing a UA expiring in space just before she is able to pick it up:
www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6652407

As you can see, that explosion was somewhat less dramatic and nothing special happens.

I was just going to post this.

 

[Wishblend]

noo! missed it
the mass lock trick didn't work, it jumped before the escort even though they scattered and I stayed right on the t-9's tail
oh well back to hunting

Bad Luck

 

[simulacrae]

Hi,

i started again and made a little bit more of documentation how i calculated most numbers.

For all others. Im talking about the markings on the side of the UA. They seem to be similar to the mayan number system and can be translated directly into numbers:

View attachment 49968

LOVE the Mayan numbers !

The more I stare at this thing - and am forced to take in the Morse code ... I think it has to be man made (no self respecting alien talks in Morse code). Possibly with Thargoid tech? (Gutamaya would have made it much prettier). My current theory is it is a component of a larger device (ship?). It is designed to fit in a cargo hold and seems to have multiple off shoots ... something like a mess of collector drones? Thargoid Limpits and Controller ??? Possibly produced by the Research division of Vespine...

Bah - Going back to stare into the event horizon...

 

[DeliciousCake]

Never mind i figured out how to download from twitch.

And i am right. It blows up just like the giff one. I figured out a video editor program now got to figure out how to clean it up crop the video and will post its after that.

You can even see the shape of the same rip of whatever that was in the giff video.

Its not as high res as the the giff but its there.

And it explodes the same way as the giff also. From the bottom to the node/bulb/head with a flash at the end with the rip shape also.

So its not a onetime graphical glitch as people have said in the giff.


At least with this video from twitch it was recorded at 60 fps wish they had a better close up of the artifact exploding.

Edit when looking at it over and over. It seems to be possibly not exploding after all. It might just be heading home.
Entering the dimension travel.

All the explosions in the game have distortion effects: http://i.imgur.com/psqRk7u.png

 

[Huros]

(no self respecting alien talks in Morse code). ...

but everything in nature can be reduced to a binary description. Hence mathematics is the language of the Universe and Morse is a binary code..... Every self respecting Alien, whilst the may not speak in Morse, should have a thorough understanding of Binary. But I doubt they will speak Bocce.

 

[Wishblend]

As there has been talk of a black hole test a few days ago, I have dug the old test out for you all to analyse.

Unknown Artefact at a black hole.

http://www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6736355

Deployed at 08:16

Duplication bug (reported so would be seen as exploit if done on purpose)

Deployed at 21:50

Note:- I loose the sound in the second deployment and my camera work if iffy as I was still learning at this time, the sound does come back near the end. (30:00) ish.

 

[Han_Zen]

As requested:

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Thank you. Great shots.
Perfect.

 

[idol_1]

Has anybody tested taking a UA to an Imperial Capital ship? maybe they are trying to communicate with a certain faction as opposed to humanity as a whole?

 

[MarktJones]

I didn't realise there was so much info about this in the wiki. Cheers to everyone that's kept it updated, really interesting read. I've just got back from some exploring so might go poke about the systems where they were found previously over the next couple of weeks.

I'm wondering if the artefact is an engine, the crystal a map and hafnium the fuel. Don't know how you'd combine them though.

 

[Lazerus Artificial]

I didn't realise there was so much info about this in the wiki. Cheers to everyone that's kept it updated, really interesting read. I've just got back from some exploring so might go poke about the systems where they were found previously over the next couple of weeks.

I'm wondering if the artefact is an engine, the crystal a map and hafnium the fuel. Don't know how you'd combine them though.

there is hafnium?

edit:
http://i.imgur.com/V2vRZBO.jpg
Hafnium 178m2, Hf, atomic number 72. This nuclear isomer has the potential to unleash enormous quantities of gamma radiation, making it an excellent ingredient for use in devastating weapons of mass destruction. As a result Hafnium 178 is a highly controlled substance that is universally illegal to own without special dispensation.

Mhhhh...so we have an alien Device that Communicates, a Crystal in a self sustained fusion shield thingy that might act as a map, and a highly radioactive element...
is there anything known about Thargoids, Witchspace and Radiation?

edit 2:
btw...wasnt there some kind of AI module too?

 

[rizal72]

OK, HERE IS THE SOLUTION:
Let us bring both the UA we have to earth, and jettison them over England. Let them decay there as a sign of protest against FD
We achieve:
1) if the UA is a Virus dispenser, the plague will spread over Cambridge and we get a hint from FD eventually
2) we get rid of Daygobah's "pressing" theory
3) we go back to grind

 

[Han_Zen]

Test done in a plague system by a station giving a CG sign up: http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6958384

BUMP.

Morse guys, please watch this.
Could be important.

 

[MarktJones]

there is hafnium?

edit:
http://i.imgur.com/V2vRZBO.jpg
Hafnium 178m2, Hf, atomic number 72. This nuclear isomer has the potential to unleash enormous quantities of gamma radiation, making it an excellent ingredient for use in devastating weapons of mass destruction. As a result Hafnium 178 is a highly controlled substance that is universally illegal to own without special dispensation.

Mhhhh...so we have an alien Device that Communicates, a Crystal in a self sustained fusion shield thingy that might act as a map, and a highly radioactive element...
is there anything known about Thargoids, Witchspace and Radiation?

edit 2:
btw...wasnt there some kind of AI module too?

I think people occasionally talk about hafnium as it is being transported in convoys. That might just be because it can be weaponised.

 

[LordZoltan]

BUMP.

Morse guys, please watch this.
Could be important.

I've installed the twitch app on my Android in a vain attempt to watch this. Apparently ratking15 has 'no videos'. Same section on the website? Loads of vids.

If I were twitch, I'd be embarrassed. But, apparently 5mill people can't be wrong at 4.5 stars!

 

[rizal72]

BUMP.

Morse guys, please watch this.
Could be important.

Hei CMDRs, I've listened that sound for the 1000th time now, and let me say this:

There is a fourth sound here, we are not caring of!

We have:
The Howl (Whale screaming sound)
The Purrs (the ones that seems like someone is burping, and speeded up seem like a Tuba sound)
The Chittering (MORSE code)

Then there is this CONSTANT sound, always in the background, that is like a radio transmission, looping and repeating itself forever. Each loop lasts 5 second. It seems a kind of code too.
It is always present, while the other sounds come and go. It reminds me of a Geiger couter somehow.

What about it? Is it the binary code some people are talking about?