Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Cmdr Clade]

I haven't quite followed this, long day too many beers at the end of it; you'll need to speak to me very slowly, what did you find?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_audio_program

SAP seems to be a type of audio encoding that includes the station id in morse code - to me thats close enough to what we have (including the word SAP) to warrant at least a cursory examination......

Maybe having 12 Sap8 containers will automatically decode the signal? I dunno - this audio stuff is beyond me. Thanks for having the courtesy to answer....

 

[Seon]

I haven't quite followed this, long day too many beers at the end of it; you'll need to speak to me very slowly, what did you find?

Personally speaking I don't think the Sscond Audio Program lead will amount to something--it is a dubbing method used by television stations, not an audio-based encoding method.

 

[warlock]

The original quote by Mr Brookes was "have you listened to them" now then as I said a long time ago, them is a 1954 b movie, with a cameo role of Mr Leonard nimoy. It's probably nothing but hey it's an interesting fact.

 

[Seon]

The original quote by Mr Brookes was "have you listened to them" now then as I said a long time ago, them is a 1954 b movie, with a cameo role of Mr Leonard nimoy. It's probably nothing but hey it's an interesting fact.

0_o.

Is it available in Netflix?

 

[Patau82]

Space invaders!

 

[Jacob Marshall]

Personally speaking I don't think the Sscond Audio Program lead will amount to something--it is a dubbing method used by television stations, not an audio-based encoding method.

I hear what you're saying but:

"SAP is often used to provide audio tracks in languages other than the native language included in the program"

Might be something to it.

EDIT:

I have seen the posts below, and freely admit to be so tired that I'm only picking up on trigger words from the wiki, so bear that in mind:

"Second audio programs are also available in other media. On analog television receive-onlysatellite television systems, audio programs are manually tuned by their subcarrier frequency, commonly around 6 MHz, often as low as 5.8 or as high as 7.2. These travel the same way as the discrete left and right main audio channels, and ATIS station ID, which is heard as Morse code."

EDIT:

Just for the record, have now seen this was also mentioned on the previous page

 

[LordZoltan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_audio_program

SAP seems to be a type of audio encoding that includes the station id in morse code - to me thats close enough to what we have (including the word SAP) to warrant at least a cursory examination......

Maybe having 12 Sap8 containers will automatically decode the signal? I dunno - this audio stuff is beyond me. Thanks for having the courtesy to answer....

Okay I'm sorry to burst this bubble, but you cannot decode MTS from sound waves - which is all we've actually got when you load a PCM or similar audio file recorded from in-game audio.

The kHz ranges that are used to encode the MTS/SAP data are not audible frequencies, but RF frequencies that are being used to broadcast the already encoded audio. So... If E: D was a full reality sim, where you could write a program to intercept the RF being received by the ship's sensors before it's internal DAC converted it into a signal to drive the cockpit speakers to then emit sound waves (resulting in the audio we actually get in-game), then you might have a shot at this.

But it's not.

Sorry.

 

[Lazerus Artificial]

The original quote by Mr Brookes was "have you listened to them" now then as I said a long time ago, them is a 1954 b movie, with a cameo role of Mr Leonard nimoy. It's probably nothing but hey it's an interesting fact.

and then there is the leonard nemoy station in the trailer...

btw, does the morse code change with less purrs?
my ears are not that good, and i cant unterstand morse :s

lets just hope the following wont happen if you find the correct amount of SAP8s...
imagine that as soon as you drop the last one, the "purr" goes silent...
and instad you hear a chittering from behind you...from inside your ship...
you turn around and there he is...watching you...
seriously...i would scream like a little girl

 

[Han_Zen]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_audio_program

SAP seems to be a type of audio encoding that includes the station id in morse code - to me thats close enough to what we have (including the word SAP) to warrant at least a cursory examination......

Maybe having 12 Sap8 containers will automatically decode the signal? I dunno - this audio stuff is beyond me. Thanks for having the courtesy to answer....

So, we will use the UA to decode the SAP8, not the other way around?

Makes me think it might be enough with one SAP, if it is realy close.

 

[Wishblend]

Part of the ua.

 

[Seon]

So I looked up the Wikipedia article about Them!, the movie where Leonard Nimoy had an uncredited role. It appears to be a movie about attack of giant insects mutated by radiation. Or something. Giant ants, in fact.


There are some mentions of flying saucers in the Wikipedia article but I do not know how aliens or UFOs factor into the story of Them! Like, at all.

 

[Wishblend]

So I looked up the Wikipedia article about Them!, the movie where Leonard Nimoy had an uncredited role. It appears to be a movie about attack of giant insects mutated by radiation. Or something. Giant ants, in fact.


There are some mentions of flying saucers in the Wikipedia article but I do not know how aliens or UFOs factor into the story of Them! Like, at all.

I saw that film.

 

[warlock]

So I looked up the Wikipedia article about Them!, the movie where Leonard Nimoy had an uncredited role. It appears to be a movie about attack of giant insects mutated by radiation. Or something. Giant ants, in fact.


There are some mentions of flying saucers in the Wikipedia article but I do not know how aliens or UFOs factor into the story of Them! Like, at all.

Yes but have you listened to them

 

[DeliciousCake]

In the latest dev update they say:

"The Elite: Dangerous team have never been bigger, and we’re working long hours and weekends to have our major announcement ready in time for Gamescom. It’s something we’ve be building to for a long time and something we can’t wait to reveal. You’ll hear all about that when Gamescom opens to the press on August 5th."


They have already announced that 1.4 will be CQC, which won't be for a few months atleast.. so what's this announcement that they've "been building to"? Is it thargoids? I hope it's not, I hope they don't "announce" thargoids and just let them show up, but what if they are just keeping us distracted with this UA thing.

 

[Wishblend]

Yes but have you listened to them

You know what, this short clip ant sounds is spooky similier

[video=youtube;9SnL2auGFwo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SnL2auGFwo[/video]

 

[LordZoltan]

Can I just say - as cool as it might be, I would be extremely disappointed if the UA turns out to be some meta puzzle regarding the late great Nimoy. Any form of meta puzzle would disappoint me, because it wouldn't make sense in the context of the Elite sim - without allowing the 'illustrators hand' (like in some WB cartoons) to become part of the sim itself.

And it is for that reason I don't think any of these meta explanations are right - I just don't think FD would do it. They're a bit fastidious about the sim-iness of ED, that's one of the main reasons I play it. Just speaking for myself there, of course - Elite has had to become quite the broad church.

 

[Cmdr Clade]

Okay I'm sorry to burst this bubble, but you cannot decode MTS from sound waves - which is all we've actually got when you load a PCM or similar audio file recorded from in-game audio.

The kHz ranges that are used to encode the MTS/SAP data are not audible frequencies, but RF frequencies that are being used to broadcast the already encoded audio. So... If E: D was a full reality sim, where you could write a program to intercept the RF being received by the ship's sensors before it's internal DAC converted it into a signal to drive the cockpit speakers to then emit sound waves (resulting in the audio we actually get in-game), then you might have a shot at this.

But it's not.

Sorry.

Thanks you for that - I realize that the KHz ranges mentioned are not audible - I'm thinking along the lines of - the 12 pods are aerials broadcasting in SAP 8 (which may be a development of Sap 7.2), so when ALL the pods are being serviced by a SAP 8 container (which is a frequency changing device or decoder or both) we #may# start hearing something more understandable. or not.

 

[Han_Zen]

New Theory on what the ua is.

I was talking with another player about the space invaders idea and other things ua related and I have come up with a new origin theory.

I don't think the ua is a Thargoids object.

I believe that it belongs to a lost generation ship that set out in the distant past on a black op mission to test an experimental FSD drive and when they didn't report back, the power that be decided that it was a fail.

Over time the experiment was forgotten.

In reality the generation ship gathered resources as it went and developed new technologies

Over time during there journey, they designed and sent out the ua as a beacon.

But as they designed and built it during the trip no one recognises it as they haven't seen it before.

The federation had it in their convoys as they discovered the first one and are looking for more as like all governments they want new technologies for themselves, using the nee to know security mindset.


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What I believe will happen when we decipher it.

We will find the location of the lost generation ship that has expanded into a new human power somewhere.

It could be these guys:

COLONY SHIP DETECTED
S.L.A.M

Astronomers using Excessively Long Baseline Interferometry (ELBI) to conduct a survey of distant radio sources believe that they may have detected the "Mayflower 97" slower-than-light colony ship, which was launched from orbit around Luna in 2097.

ELBI remains a somewhat inexact science, because receiving stations are placed so far apart that considerations of simultaneity become an issue in interpreting the results, but the patterns received by the Distant Radio Survey group do indeed appear to show radio emissions characteristic of a Bussard ramjet moving with a relativistic velocity of almost 60% of the speed of light. The "Mayflower 97" carried nearly a thousand passengers and crew, plus domestic animals and extensive gene banks to aid in the colonisation of Earth-like worlds which were presumed to exist around nearby stars.

Archaeological evidence suggests that it did indeed successfully reach its first port of call at Tau Ceti, but the fate of both ship and crew thereafter was unknown until now.

The ship's tremendous speed in real space makes it Impractical to attempt a rendezvous, so the "Mayflower" will presumably be left to continue on its way, bearing with it any descendants of its original complement.

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Part of the ua.

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Congratulation

You have found the sad little alien. I have asked a few times if anyone had spotted her.

 

[LordZoltan]

It could be these guys:

COLONY SHIP DETECTED
S.L.A.M

Astronomers using Excessively Long Baseline Interferometry (ELBI) to conduct a survey of distant radio sources believe that they may have detected the "Mayflower 97" slower-than-light colony ship, which was launched from orbit around Luna in 2097.

ELBI remains a somewhat inexact science, because receiving stations are placed so far apart that considerations of simultaneity become an issue in interpreting the results, but the patterns received by the Distant Radio Survey group do indeed appear to show radio emissions characteristic of a Bussard ramjet moving with a relativistic velocity of almost 60% of the speed of light. The "Mayflower 97" carried nearly a thousand passengers and crew, plus domestic animals and extensive gene banks to aid in the colonisation of Earth-like worlds which were presumed to exist around nearby stars.

Archaeological evidence suggests that it did indeed successfully reach its first port of call at Tau Ceti, but the fate of both ship and crew thereafter was unknown until now.

The ship's tremendous speed in real space makes it Impractical to attempt a rendezvous, so the "Mayflower" will presumably be left to continue on its way, bearing with it any descendants of its original complement.

Somewhere along the way, they met a friendly bunch of insectoids, and what we see here in the UA is the result of over a thousand years' worth (or possibly more - at relativistic speeds) of collaboration.

Nice.

 

[Zenith]

The ship's tremendous speed in real space makes it Impractical to attempt a rendezvous, so the "Mayflower" will presumably be left to continue on its way, bearing with it any descendants of its original complement.

Off-topic a moment, but that reminds me of this episode of Andromeda...
http://andromeda.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lone_And_Level_Sands