Way of the Exploring Fist

Darn you ED , darn you to HECK!.....

I was meandering slowly towards Sag A, looking around , getting sidetracked a little.

I got *cough* distracted a few more times this week , I just checked my route to Sag A , and I'm 750 ly FURTHER away from the black hole than when I started this week.
 
Thank you for the thread, CMDR Insane!

My method is pretty similar to what most people have posted I think. With the exception of Ian Phillips who seems to be exploring in hard core mode without an Advanced Discovery Scanner! :eek:

This is my first real attempt at exploration and back in February I started my journey to Sagittarius A, however I have limited time as many others probably so haven't made much progress. I have noticed that there are a lot of cherry picked systems that tugged at my OCD a little and posts in this thread are telling me why, lol.

So my method is fairly basic, I just have a rough idea of the course I want to plot which is up the Orion Arm and toward the center so I use the map to plot in 1000ly segments. I have recently posted a thread asking for sightseeing spots as I am fairly ignorant of which places may be good to visit so I incorporate those when I can. For example I'm heading to the Dumbbell Nebula at the moment which doesn't take me too far from my plan and should be pretty cool to see.

My ship is a Cobra MkIII but it's not optimised as much as it could be for exploration making only limited jumps (13ly) - it will take me a very long time to complete the journey but I don't see that as an issue really. I refuel when required; usually I err on the side of safety and refuel at half tank with a post by Zenith ringing in my ears.

As a policy I am scanning everything in unexplored systems but those with the main star tagged I limit to earth like world or something else interesting if they are not already scanned, otherwise I move on. I stream most of my sessions and record for posterity although I have to say it's not as exciting as watching some pew pew. To pass the time I write a blog that is a little RP orientated summarising each trip. Currently I'm trying to cope with the solitude and enjoy the coffee.
 
Thanks everyone for posting your mannerisms! Apreciate it a lot.

There's so many things that seem obvious to me when I go about my business, it never occurs to me to do things differently. As it turns out, things aren't as obvious as I thought they were. Which is what I expected. Which is a meta-contradiction but rationality is trivial in these matters.

One change I have made in my mannerisms is: I never scan the sun if I don't scan the system. I'm not in it to be the first to discover a system if I don't explore the system. It occured to me however that this routine also meant I don't scan the sun when the sun is the only body in the system. Red faces all around from my scienceminnions in the science lab.

Funny thing is, with the lonely explorer friendslist, you can see where those other CMDRs are out exploring. Now coupled with the post in the thread, it's also a little more clear what they are up to.

Hat's off to Ian, still exploring old school. Lots of respect. I tried that the first time when I was strapped for cash and tooting my horn only 500 ls wide. Sometimes I couldn't make heads or tails of the orbit lines, so my methods were to chase those wake shift drive hoola hoops, since I was exploring close to home with lots of npcs flying about. Another favorite method was flying increasing circles around the sun and acting as if the Dutch footbal team had won the World Cup. Honk! Honk! Honk! Very little scientific method to my madness.


By the way!
Last night I made as much progress as I did all last week, but now I'm in the area where no routeplanner dares plan a route. But I think I found a way around it. Has to be tested further:

My jumprange is about 32 Ly. Which I round down to 30Ly. I noticed that picking a star at random x Ly away make the planner weep in a corner. but when I pick a star at a distance which is a factor of that 30 ly, it could plan a route within reasonable time. So I'm thinking if I for instance pick a star 150 Ly away, the planner recognises that it can be reached with 5 jumps. But since there aren't that many options for stars to chose from on that route (narrow cone towards destination) it has to calculate less options. The margin is 5x2 = 10 Ly so to speak. If you give it more playroom: 130 Ly. It still has to do 5 jumps, but the margin now is 30 ly. The cone widens and more stars become available as options. So the calculationtime will increase greatly.

If anyone has the slightest clue what I'm talking about and has a different jumprange that mine, can they verify this? I'll keep testing as well.
 
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I haven't got close enough to Sag A to try this, but I think someone suggested going into Map mode and deselecting all of the star types -except for one and then trying to plan a route.
 
:DHello,

I haven't seen any 'Explored by XXX' for a while. :D Right now i'm in an area with no 'tourist spots' and i headed intentionally into this area.

OK. Fair enough.

Just that "Wandering around and exploring without any aim" is how I would exactly describe what I'm doing in the game right now lol

I guess I felt a little miffed when you described it as the "Ultimate senseless waste of time" Apologies,
Seems I misinterpreted.
 
hmm, I scoop at full speed while keeping the green line in sight on top of the screen, kinda like orbiting the star, while honking :D. Am I doing it wrong?
 
First off, if you don't get the reference in the title, let me assure you, it's not sexual.

Second, there are a lot of threads about exploring so it seems to have gained quite a bit in popularity. I'd be interested in how you deal with the different aspects of it. I have created quite a few routines for myself, and I'm interested whether these are the same for other explorers or if they have other means. That's why I'll be naming some stuff that'll seem obvious, maybe it isn't!

Moving about
The long haul. Plot close to 1,000 Ly, and promise to yourself you're not going to get bogged down in just any system. Only the really interesting ones I allow myself to be distracted by. As long hauling time goes on, the threshold for interesting seems to go down quite a bit. it will degrade from Earthlikes to funky looking gas giants to lava metal planets.
Always try to make sure my 1000ly destination is interesting: a class O, a giant, one of the fuzzy dots on the galmap, a black hole. Spend a considerable amount of time on this. Usually I promise myself to only honk the ADS on the long ones, and usually stick to that unless I'm feeling particularly pumped or see a good photo op. I don't really even bother with Earth-likes if I'm in a rush. Mad, I know, but usually my destination is more important than the credits, and time doesn't permit much dilly-dallying - note this only really applies to LONG trips. If I'm anywhere near local space, I want to put my name on every star and Earth-like and Ammonia world :D

Taking it one step at a time. My Asp has a range of 33 Ly, so I'll look for systems in the general direction I was going which look interesting. Traveling in single hops. This works well where the stars are closely packed together.
Only ever do this if I'm exploring a region like a nebula, waiting on a wing mate to sign in, or looking for something specific for video footage. Rest of the time, it's 1000ly jumps and routine.

When the stars become sparser, I'll aim for an interesting looking system, but turn economic routes on. I often have found quite bizarre configurations in docile looking systems. The economic route doesn't take that much longer since scooping is a matter of a couple of seconds.
Ergonomic routes are not my cup of tea
All out vacuum hoovering. Caught myself doing this around 9,000 Lys from Sagi. The hops become 5-10 Ly. Direction isn't that much of an issue anymore. Also what I call Japanese Tourism mode (pardon the generalization). After a week of this and finding I'm still 7,500 Ly away, I forced myself into motion again today.

Deciding what's scan worthy
Barring the obvious: there's an Earthlike or a black hole or a neutron star and such.
I go for what's interesting visually or scientifically over what's worth credits, but my mood can change on shorter trips and go for the bucks.
For some reason I like Metal content planets. They're colourfull and usually close together. Not too interested white or brown gas giants, but will go after the disco ball giants. It's also very spur of the moment. I might pass a system by, but scan a similar system the next day.
I also like the metals and often find myself going right up to them to check them out. I'd like to explore more gas giants but they are almost always too far away, and I'm almost always in a rush...
Level of OCD
Or what distance will you travel? Anything under 100,000 Ls distance is not a factor. If it's over 300,000 ls I'll scan it if there's good stuff there, or when the rest of the system is nice, and I want to have a full system scan. Over 500,000 Ls I better see some promising Earth likes.
I'd go any distance if something looks good on the system map. If I'm looking for an ammonia world in this area of space by this nebula because it looks stunning, I'll go. If I see an earth like around a brown dwarf 500,000ls away, I go. Just alt-tab for 10 minutes and trawl the forums :D

Fuel scoop operating temperature
Around 60-65%, allowed to stray towards the 70's, over 70 I'll increase my distance
I have a B-rated power supply so my heat never goes beyond 64%, which is what its at when I reach the max of the scoop. An art mastered long ago in my 100's of scoops
Fuel scoop travel procedure
With a route set: Align the route pointer vertically above me, and fly with the star-on-a-stick beneath me using the stick on the radar to position myself exactly above it. When scooping is done, align with vector, wait for the temps to drop into the 50's and make it so.
Move in for the scoop, while scanning the star, once that is done point to the gradient of the star in the direction I want to go and wait for it to be at about 75% then start slowly moving away and try and time it to be done when I nearly exit the corona. As soon as the fuel scoop disengages, so long as I am moving at full throttle away, I hit the FSD then, as it will never overheat with my power plant.
Cheese!
As I said, I like the look of metally planets. If they have an atmosphere even better. Simple is beautiful. I check em all out, and many end up bmping my Hd. I'm not too big a fan of rings from a distance, but up close these are amazing. Of course every Earthlike and Ammonia world gets a place in the picture book
I always go for things that look unique, interesting and beautiful, as stated above. We think alike!
Stuff I forgot to mention
I chapterized this post, but just to put some order into the chaos that is my thinking, not to set a precedent for the thread. Share any routine however mundane you may think it is.
I'm beginning to make my own take on an exploration guide video (it will be by far the best) and in it I go through my routine. I'll share it here when I'm done.
Looking forward to reading your methodology and how it differs from mine. :)

Thanks for this thread, love reading stuff like this
 
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In my case I have a general goal in mind, and update as needed. It's never truly aimless, but may not be truly purposeful. My last expedition took me along the Norma Arm until 1.2 was announced, then I headed back Solward, dipping by the Statue of Liberty Nebula on the way.

Currently I'm heading to SagA, and chances are I'll be home before 1.3 is out.

I tend to look for interesting things on the star map. I use neutron stars or black holes as waypoints, but don't farm them. They just give me a point to lock onto several hundred LY away and provide a bit of a guaranteed cash bonus when I get there.

I also check the map under "realistic" to look for interesting hypergiants to visit. Always hoping to find a record breaker. Sadly they've almost all been about the same size (that is, I end up jumping within 150-200Ls of the sun, which means they're approximately the same size - once I came across a blue hypergiant that was almost a record breaker, though!)

I'm hoping to find a small nebula this way, too (you know the kind limited to a single star system, not the ones we see on the galactic map). So far, no luck.

I fly a T6 with a 29LY range. I used to take a lot of pictures, now I take a lot of video instead (hope to put up another music video).

I always take a picture at Earth-likes so I can potentially revisit them later (instead of scribbling down the name it's easier to just screengrab the cockpit with it on your HUD)

I tend to scan high-metal and gas giants that aren't too far out regularly unless I'm in a bit of a hurry. If the system has an Earth-like, I scan everything there, including worthless moons. MINE!
 
My method is very similar to OP, with the only difference I have an OCD for unnamed objects: if I'm in a zone full of un-named system I can press myself to surface scan only the main star and the interesting systems, being able with some effort to leave the usual icy balls that orbit the usual M class.

But if i'm in a zone that has been scanned extensively (almost every nebulae), my naming OCD comes out.

Yesterday, after jumping to 50 systems where EVERYTHING were already named, i SCed 600000 Ls becouse somebody forgot to name the last moon in the last gas giant in the last star.
 
I jump into system while holding discovery scanner button, close in on star and scoop at about 200-ish (in a Clipper) speed while targeting star to write my name on it, meanwhile while it scans open system map and look for points of interest. Usually by the time I figure out the basics of the system I'm done scooping. Then I either go scan stuff or select next sysrem, charge FSD while looking at galaxy map to see if it's a dangerous binary, and then finally jump.

Route-wise I plot 1000ly to a giant, nebula or something else that's interesting, but deviate for interesting things if nearby, then re-plot to original destination if I remembered to screenshot the name or write it down.

What I scan always:
Water worlds
Ammonia worlds
Earth worlds
Non-main sequence stars
Anything very unordinary

What I scan if close:
Possibly terraformable planets (<1000ls)
Gas giants I suspect of harboring life, hot Jupiters and gas giants I find strange or have never seen before (<5000ls)

What I never scan:
Metal rich worlds
Rocky and icy planets
Ordinary stars and brown dwarves away from main star, unless they're very pretty or in an unusual close arrangement.
 
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I did a 12,000 ly exploring trip a month or so back, i scanned most metal, gas and earth like planets. Over the 12,000ly distance (from sol) i clocked up over 1100 systems visited (were no 1 as been before or there abouts). It took approx 6 weeks playing on and off. I did a zig zag sort of exploring due too everytime i went for the most prominent feature (nebula ect) someone had beaten too it. Anyway when i got back and sold the data i managed too rack up over 48,000,000 credits.

So now i have set out on another exploring mission hoping to do a 5,000 system scan..

going too take a while though.
 
I'll admit it's a bit of a mix;

Routing:


There's not usually a destination in mind - except for the first and most recent trips, the purpose for me is just, well...exploring. Preferably Where No Man Has Gone Before and all that. Most of my trips tend to be fairly close in, heading out, finding an unexplored region, and just looking around, essentially exploring in a big sphere. That said, my last trip was a long-distance axial run, returning through a tourist spot. A couple of weeks longer than the others, and mostly well trodden ground, but the views were good enough that I may do it again sometime if I get a proper long range ship (I'm still using my smuggling-rigged Cobra for sentimental reasons.) The couple of times I've been in them have made me fond of badlands - even if the surrounding area's well explored, they take careful attention to navigate (at least, they did for me) and while the financial value hasn't always been great, I've loved the challenge of scanning as much as possible before having to run for fuel.

Scans:

Aside from the obvious ones - anything that catches my interest. For the amount of exploration I've actually done (almost none compared to most, I'm sure,) I probably have a ridiculous number of scans on rocky and ice worlds, and even have discovery tags on several dozen asteroid belts (or at least got FTD for them, for all the difference that makes.) Other times, particularly when I already have a target area in mind, it's just scoop, honk, and go, unless I spot and ELW, WW, or particularly large gas giant. On a few occasions, I'll actually find myself dropping from SC to have a really good look. Wish you could land on planets :(

Level of OCD:

If you hadn't guessed from the last bit - Very high!

Fuel:

Dive 'till fuel scoop maxes out, and go make a cup of tea. Max heat around 70%. I'll usually have a notebook used to keep a running check on my fuel calculations. Using the T/h and combining that with the FSD fuel requirement to get to the nearest scoopable is probably a bit over the top, and if I'm honest I don't use that technique much, but knowing exactly how long you have before you have to find fuel is extremely useful in badlands, which are where I've had some of my most interesting finds (then again, most people probably wouldn't have considered those particular areas badlands. I was using a Hauler and a low-fuel capacity Cobra at those times, after all.) This does of course mean that I tend to 'brim the tanks' in a single fuel stop. Speed here isn't important to me - I don't explore on a time limit.
 
If you are gonna link Elite to Kung-Fu games then surely it must be Yie Ar Kung-Fu, a classic on the BBC


Nice post though :)


 
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My thoughts are:
The best technique is to use the crouching kick. This can basically only be countered by the low kick, but since the crouching kick is a quicker manoeuvre, this isn't really a problem. Even a somersault to try and get behind you is pretty much always guaranteed to end in failure, since you can do the reverse leg sweep which again could be pulled off quicker than your opponent can somersault land, turn round and try the low kick from behind.

Oh, exploring. Sorry. I thought some of these posts were a bit off topic... ;).
 
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