Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Jacob Marshall]

That's exactly the purpose of my experiment n.2...

Yep, it's a good idea for a test.

The UA's an egg, the morse is its call to mummy, it won't exploded in the ship because it's not the right temperature to hatch, 5 minutes at a nice cozy -500 degrees and it's done to perfection and off it swims to mummy whale.

What the hell, could be anything

 

[rizal72]

Ok, let me detail a little bit more, with some lore from the Books, and a little speculation:

The Dark Wheel has almost surely access to some Thargoid technology, that we know, from the books.

I want to point what I think is a very important hint we didn't catch. It's a thing that you notice if you are hunting for the UA.

The only convoy that makes me jump from my chair, every time I spot it, because I'm hoping it's the UA convoy, and because it's almost composed by the same ships, is the Hafnium 178 Convoy.
All the other convoys are different: they usually have 3 T9, or random ships.
The only one convoy that is equal the the UA one, is the one carrying Hafnium. Usually 4 Anacondas or some mix of Anaconda, Vultures and Dropships.

So to me it seems that those two convoys, UA and Hafnium, are really linked in some way. They are transporting things for the same "entity".
I'm almost sure the Hafnium is needed.

Every player can spot and if he wants, take on an Hafnium convoy, to get the Hafnium.
The SAP 8, on the contrary, needs an Elite Rank, so I strongly think SAP8 is just an hint.

The Dark Wheel is building or trying to reproduce the UA, for whatever purpose, using Hafnium as a fuel, or similar.

For all of this, I would add to my n.2 experiment, some Hafnium 178 in the hold of the "Pioneer" ship.

EDIT: Ok, the Hafnium was added later in the game. So it could be just an hint itself, like the SAP8. They are just ingredients of what the DW is trying to do... I wonder if the SAP8 convoy is the same as the Hafnium and the UA one.

 

[Nicholas Powell]

It screams..

Good. Keep up the good work terrorising the smug little git.

And on that spiteful and frustrated note, an idea for a test just sprang to mind. Another one designed to confuse and/or annoy the UA so I'm sure it can result in nothing of any value whatsoever. Other than getting one back on the sod.
On the plus side, it could be (literally) speedily done...

Has a Bearer achieved a loop-de-loop g-force red-out while lugging a UA around in normal space?

Honestly, there really is some quasi-reasoning behind this query but if it should delightedly shriek "Wheeeeeeee!" and ask to go again, it's obviously in the wrong FDev game.

 

[rizal72]

Good. Keep up the good work terrorising the smug little .

And on that spiteful and frustrated note, an idea for a test just sprang to mind. Another one designed to confuse and/or annoy the UA so I'm sure it can result in nothing of any value whatsoever. Other than getting one back on the sod.
On the plus side, it could be (literally) speedily done...

Has a Bearer achieved a loop-de-loop g-force red-out while lugging a UA around in normal space?

Honestly, there really is some quasi-reasoning behind this query but if it should delightedly shriek "Wheeeeeeee!" and ask to go again, it's obviously in the wrong FDev game.

You deserved my rep!

 

[Patau82]

Ok, let me detail a little bit more, with some lore from the Books, and a little speculation:

The Dark Wheel has almost surely access to some Thargoid technology, that we know, from the books.

I want to point what I think is a very important hint we didn't catch. It's a thing that you notice if you are hunting for the UA.

The only convoy that makes me jump from my chair, every time I spot it, because I'm hoping it's the UA convoy, and because it's almost composed by the same ships, is the Hafnium 178 Convoy.
All the other convoys are different: they usually have 3 T9, or random ships.
The only one convoy that is equal the the UA one, is the one carrying Hafnium. Usually 4 Anacondas or some mix of Anaconda, Vultures and Dropships.

So to me it seems that those two convoys, UA and Hafnium, are really linked in some way. They are transporting things for the same "entity".
I'm almost sure the Hafnium is needed.

Every player can spot and if he wants, take on an Hafnium convoy, to get the Hafnium.
The SAP 8, on the contrary, needs an Elite Rank, so I strongly think SAP8 is just an hint.

The Dark Wheel is building or trying to reproduce the UA, for whatever purpose, using Hafnium as a fuel, or similar.

For all of this, I would add to my n.2 experiment, some Hafnium 178 in the hold of the "Pioneer" ship.

EDIT: Ok, the Hafnium was added later in the game. So it could be just an hint itself, like the SAP8. They are just ingredients of what the DW is trying to do... I wonder if the SAP8 convoy is the same as the Hafnium and the UA one.

they also carry antiques or panite , and maybe even A.I

 

[rizal72]

they also carry antiques or panite , and maybe even A.I

No.
Those convoys are different. Usually 3 T9 + escort. I'm scanning all of them.

The ones carrying Hafnium and UAs, are the same everytime, from two choices: 1 T9 + 4 Annies, or a Mix of Annie Vultures and DS.

 

[Patau82]

No.
Those convoys are different. Usually 3 T9 + escort. I'm scanning all of them.

The ones carrying Hafnium and UAs, are the same everytime, from two choices: 1 T9 + 4 Annies, or a Mix of Annie Vultures and DS.

I've seen Antiques in 1 T9 + 3 Conda + 3 Vultures + 1 Drop Ship a few times but its very rare, I've never seen one in Timocani but got one yesterday in G 203-47.

 

[LordZoltan]

Yep, it's a good idea for a test.

The UA's an egg, the morse is its call to mummy, it won't exploded in the ship because it's not the right temperature to hatch, 5 minutes at a nice cozy -500 degrees and it's done to perfection and off it swims to mummy whale.

What the hell, could be anything

I know - you've explicitly called out the unlikelihood of your own suggestion, but anyway...

My concern with the Morse being a signal to anything other than a local 'listener' is that it'd have to be subspace communication, not radio communication (which is what it appears to be), because otherwise the signal is just too slow to travel through space to be of any practical use as a beacon.

Let's say the fabled 'mother ship' is 4ly away - radio Morse is going to take 4 years to reach 'her'!

And... Let's say it *is* subspace, well then, why use Morse in the first place. Subspace is used for data, so you'd just broadcast the data right?

Probably far too rectal - but FD are a bit rectal, and so any puzzle they create is likely to be, too, I think

 

[rizal72]

I've seen Antiques in 1 T9 + 3 Conda + 3 Vultures + 1 Drop Ship a few times but its very rare, I've never seen one in Timocani but got one yesterday in G 203-47.

You could be right, but my point stands still: Hafnium and UA are always in the same kind of convoy
What I mean is that (speculation alert) perhaps FD want us to know that they are being carried for the same purpose by the same 'peoples'

 

[bitstorm]

Yeah the morse is a right old conundrum... still! It's surprisingly hard to plug into any of the (currently 2 main?) theories in a way that makes any sense.

I mean nav beacons do morse presumably because if a ship is lost (perhaps nav computer failure) they can go to the nav beacon and get a location. Presumably they're essentially legacy, are rarely required, but kept around as a backup mechanism for pilots.

Or to generalise, essentially the nav morse is provided as a service to another entity which, for whatever reason does not know it's location. The presumption of course being that that entity uses morse as a language.

Does not compute. =(

 

[rizal72]

Yeah the morse is a right old conundrum, still! It's surprisingly hard to plug into any of the (currently 2 main?) theories in a way that makes any sense.

Perhaps everybody do not know it: but in the book the protagonists are WIDELY using it to communicate without being spotted by others: and they call it Federation Blink Code. It has a name too! And it's a Fed thing...
Think...

The morse it's there but HIDDEN among alien like chitterings.
Conspiracy smell, again: it has to look Alien but uses an hidden Fed blink code.

Perhaps the only purpose for the morse is just that, once discovered: to let us understand that there is someonw who wants us to believe it's Alien, when it's not.

 

[bitstorm]

Perhaps everybody do not know it: but in the book the protagonists are WIDELY using it to communicate without being spotted by others: and they call it Federation Blink Code. It has a name too! And it's a Fed thing...
Think...

The morse it's there but HIDDEN among alien like chitterings.
Conspiracy smell, again: it has to look Alien but uses an hidden Fed blink code.

Aye the human involvement is likely, not sure about Federation though, the military convoy carrying it seem unaware on how to handle it.

But whether human/fed or not, to hear the location morse it seems like you have to be within ~800m which under the vast majority of circumstances would be pointless. About as useful as a tour guide.

 

[rizal72]

Aye the human involvement is likely, not sure about Federation though, the military convoy carrying it seem unaware on how to handle it.

But whether human/fed or not, to hear the location morse it seems like you have to be within ~800m which under the vast majority of circumstances would be pointless. About as useful as a tour guide.

That's because it's just an hint we'd be supposed to spot, in a Puzzle like game.
That's why it has to be hidden, and barely audible.
Remember? No overthinking

 

[SNaomiScott]

For those who haven't spotted it yet, the Cerberus CG at Bast was completed last night. The reason I mention this is because if a cure now becomes available for the plague then it won't be so clear as to whether that is because of the plague CG being completed or because of the UA being sold to LN. Just my two creds.

 

[Nicholas Powell]

"CLEAR!"

Regarding the limited broadcast of the Morse function in the absence of any other function/s the UA may have: it seems reasonable (though admittedly not absolutely so) that the UA could be in some kind of damaged/reduced/default state. One which the UA might be jolted from, as we might a cardiac victim with a defibrillator or, for that matter, a car with a mostly-flat battery with a set of jump leads.

Of course, the controlled transfer of energy isn't (outside of weaponry) really a ready option for us with our ships' systems and modules. Except, perhaps, in the case of charging up a shield. All that energy is charged up and then transferred into a controlled space. Yes, surely, there's more to it than that but I'm sure I'm well established as being no rocket scientist - yet it is untried according to the Wiki and the closest to a spacecraft defibrillator we might have.

So as to not just blithely suggest a test without checking what I first can check without a UA, I have dropped and then recharged shields in the immediate (canopy-scraping) vicinity of a cargo cannister to check if it damages one. No sign of any adverse affects. No sign of any change in the cannister for that matter, but that was only a cargo cannister and not what we already know to be a far more complex device so I offer this idea up for quick-ish elimination purposes.

 

[Han_Zen]

This any use?

Spoiler

http://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B_Ozdb8mTFWzTjhRVGdQUnZVV1k

There's a few more in various lighting conditions in the files link in my sig

This pic. is excellent quality, but I want a pic that shows whats inside the Maya marks. For that we need a picture where the ship lights are pointed at the marking.

Inside the windows on the "Head" (it's made of two bodies I think and is not the head) we can see that there are several balls with an indent. I would like to se if something similar are in the Maya windows.

 

[bitstorm]

"CLEAR!"

https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/c..._the-thing-defibrillator-scene.jpg?1351270174

Regarding the limited broadcast of the Morse function in the absence of any other function/s the UA may have: it seems reasonable (though admittedly not absolutely so) that the UA could be in some kind of damaged/reduced/default state. One which the UA might be jolted from, as we might a cardiac victim with a defibrillator or, for that matter, a car with a mostly-flat battery with a set of jump leads.

Of course, the controlled transfer of energy isn't (outside of weaponry) really a ready option for us with our ships' systems and modules. Except, perhaps, in the case of charging up a shield. All that energy is charged up and then transferred into a controlled space. Yes, surely, there's more to it than that but I'm sure I'm well established as being no rocket scientist - yet it is untried according to the Wiki and the closest to a spacecraft defibrillator we might have.

So as to not just blithely suggest a test without checking what I first can check without a UA, I have dropped and then recharged shields in the immediate (canopy-scraping) vicinity of a cargo cannister to check if it damages one. No sign of any adverse affects. No sign of any change in the cannister for that matter, but that was only a cargo cannister and not what we already know to be a far more complex device so I offer this idea up for quick-ish elimination purposes.

Well someone suggested drop it in a stars scooping zone which I've put on my list but not tried yet. I'll have a go at the shield thing too.

Maybe tonight not so sure, I had a right old time yesterday transferring the UA to a Python and I think I want to switch back, this thing is a liability.

Not for it's size/mass, I expected that, but from what I could see (admittedly very last thing last night) the cargo hatch has what I'd call um... serious design flaws.

 

[rizal72]

This pic. is excellent quality, but I want a pic that shows whats inside the Maya marks. For that we need a picture where the ship lights are pointed at the marking.

Inside the windows on the "Head" (it's made of two bodies I think and is not the head) we can see that there are several balls with an indent. I would like to se if something similar are in the Maya windows.

"I want to see the pixels!!!!!"

Aren't you "overlooking"?

 

[Vasious]

Galnet update

Cure to the Plague is Ceremonial Heike Tea

In game GalNet only not on the community page at this stage

Interesting as it is a food not a medicine, but a rare good none the less and thus connects the rare good supply routes to the infection chain

We have Eleu conntect to Ochoeng & Bast

The rest are clusters about the origin

 

[bitstorm]

This pic. is excellent quality, but I want a pic that shows whats inside the Maya marks. For that we need a picture where the ship lights are pointed at the marking.

Inside the windows on the "Head" (it's made of two bodies I think and is not the head) we can see that there are several balls with an indent. I would like to se if something similar are in the Maya windows.

Ah gotcha.

If Ratking/Branch don't pick it up I'll sort you one. It might be a bit difficult due to the clipping point tho, like this is the closet you can get before it clips the model : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_Ozdb8mTFWzVFNuZ3UyVlJuZms so you have to rely on resolution I think.