Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Atinus

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EAGLE 5 said:
Rats... problem with Galnet hints is that it definitely slows the tempo down.
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Or the answer is staring us right in the face in the news feeds and has been for months.

Don't want to be a pessimist but it seems like FD may be making the UA story up as they go and for the time being we just have "the thing" until they find a way to drop some more to it... maybe after the big reveal.
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We've been assured it's not a wild goose chase. That there's a secret there not yet revealed only because we haven't figured it out yet. That when we do, there will be fanfare. I think we should take Frontier at their word. There's something here, we just need to keep looking. And the messenger said most of the hints are in Galnet. So I suggest we look there.
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Yes, as far as I know the only FD sourced items regarding the UA are Halsey (Galnet may be speculaing) and <shudders> the source of all known tinhatery, the Wings promo video.
 
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Derthek

Derthek
rizal72 said:
Derthek, it's 100%. The chittering appears only when you get close to the UA (like my BG sound as well), and disappear while going far from it.
And: if you use earphones it is panning left/right together with the other UA sound.
And: it is PART of the UA sound.
PLEASE WE ARE RUNNING IN CIRCLES AGAIN...
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Hey now, It's not like my test involves a UA. I've read the posts and I believe the UA is capable of sending morse.

I'd just like a simple "control sample" of the background sound. It couldn't be a worse test than, say, trying to make the UA drink tea in SGR a*
 

rizal72

rizal72
Derthek said:
Cheers :) the only reason I ask is that the morse solves nothing and only adds to the speculation. I understand that the chittering is what is used to derive the morse, so it's obviously linked. I'd just like to know what shows up in the background as a comparison.
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The "strange and somehow hidden" morse is perfectly "in lore" instead.

Perhaps you've missed this:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=356&p=2607292&viewfull=1#post2607292

and the following posts...
 

bitstorm

bitstorm
Dommarraa said:
Yes, as far as I know the only FD sourced items regarding the UA are Halsey (Galnet may be speculaing) and <shudders> the source of all known tinhatery, the Wings promo video.
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Also Star Trek episodes. X happened in Star Trek therefore Leonard Nimoy.
sorry =/
 
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Atinus

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Dommarraa said:
Yes, as far as I know the only FD sourced items regarding the UA are Halsey (Galnet may be speculaing) and <shudders> the source of all known tinhatery, the Wings promo video.
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Okay, but the Wings video is decidedly not Galnet. Plus the cargo has been delivered to Leonard Nimoy. If that was the solution, we should know pretty soon. Although that would be kind of an odd story, wouldn't it? "The mystery of the unknown artefact was solved. It needed to be delivered to Nimoy station because that's what the crew did in the promo trailer." How do you even begin to explain that in story terms?

So, minus the promo trailer, all roads lead to Halsey, which actually has a decent back story to it. Unless there's something else in the news feed that we've missed. Again it's supposed to be obvious, per Kerrash. And it is probably in Galnet.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Derthek said:
Hey now, It's not like my test involves a UA. I've read the posts and I believe the UA is capable of sending morse.

I'd just like a simple "control sample" of the background sound. It couldn't be a worse test than, say, trying to make the UA drink tea in SGR a*
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Ah man, go test. Honestly you never know, weirder things have happened.

An easy way to record audio, Audacity allows you to record directly from the speakers in the settings somewhere. Just click record and go do your test, easy.
 
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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
Atinus said:
Okay, but the Wings video is decidedly not Galnet. Plus the cargo has been delivered to Leonard Nimoy. If that was the solution, we should know pretty soon. Although that would be kind of an odd story, wouldn't it? "The mystery of the unknown artefact was solved. It needed to be delivered to Nimoy station because that's what the crew did in the promo trailer." How do you even begin to explain that in story terms?

So, minus the promo trailer, all roads lead to Halsey, which actually has a decent back story to it. Unless there's something else in the news feed that we've missed. Again it's supposed to be obvious, per Kerrash.
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Agreed. However

Bad News : Its been done to death and nothing was found
Good News : Its not been done to death by ME. I wasnt involved then, so expect a result soon(tm) ;)
 
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Dr.Evanzan

Dr.Evanzan
Atinus said:
Okay, but the Wings video is decidedly not Galnet. Plus the cargo has been delivered to Leonard Nimoy. If that was the solution, we should know pretty soon. Although that would be kind of an odd story, wouldn't it? "The mystery of the unknown artefact was solved. It needed to be delivered to Nimoy station because that's what the crew did in the promo trailer." How do you even begin to explain that in story terms?

So, minus the promo trailer, all roads lead to Halsey, which actually has a decent back story to it. Unless there's something else in the news feed that we've missed. Again it's supposed to be obvious, per Kerrash. And it is probably in Galnet.
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So maybe we do need to sell a UA at Leoniceno Orbital after all then.
However, if that is what FD think passes as a hint...
does anyone have an Inigo Montoya GIF handy?

Edit: Found one!

You-keep-using-that-word1.jpg
 
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rizal72

rizal72
Atinus said:
Okay, but the Wings video is decidedly not Galnet. Plus the cargo has been delivered to Leonard Nimoy. If that was the solution, we should know pretty soon. Although that would be kind of an odd story, wouldn't it? "The mystery of the unknown artefact was solved. It needed to be delivered to Nimoy station because that's what the crew did in the promo trailer." How do you even begin to explain that in story terms?

So, minus the promo trailer, all roads lead to Halsey, which actually has a decent back story to it. Unless there's something else in the news feed that we've missed. Again it's supposed to be obvious, per Kerrash. And it is probably in Galnet.
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If you say Helsey, you know I agree with you. It fits perfectly with the Lore and the Book.
And there is a Royal wedding approaching...

UA + Helsey -> Wheel Conspiracy or Thargoids -> FSD misjump -> my tests n.2 and n.3
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=350&p=2605266#post2605266
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
OK So with 1.3 FD introduced the notion that Galnet and local publications are separate entities. Adding to this, Galnet's articles are persistent while only some of the local articles are. Perhaps it may be worth something going back and reading through key systems' news outlet for potential clues through certain persistent articles? I.e. What have Leonard Nimoy station's publications been writing since 1.2 and first mention of the UA? What about other systems where UAs were found? or where convoys carrying them were spotted?
 

Atinus

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All I'm saying given the Frontier statement that most of the hints are in Galnet, is we go back over the list of tests and loose ends and de-prioritize in the least those that cannot reasonably be linked back to something in Galnet.

Everything that remains, try those first.

Maybe it's Leoniceno. Maybe it's something else. Just trying to eliminate the impossible. Given Kerrash's repeated statements and his desire for us to figure this out, I think we should trust the hints he has given (i.e. most of the hints are in Galnet).
 
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Nicholas Powell

Nicholas Powell
Just a thought about the StarShip One angle. Haven't checked GalNet yet, but perhaps this will spur something in somebody's noggin if it amounts to anything...

Is it not possible that the posited link between the UAs and the StarShip One is nothing to do with Halsey but actually the other (less) famous passenger aboard at the time of its loss - Vice President Wossisface?
 

Derthek

Derthek
As I have some experience in game design (3 years 3d modelin, 2 years programming) I think it's safe to assume the programming for the UA is quite simple, in regards to sound generation.

If you take the Nav beacon for example there is technically only 1 Nav beacon in the game. What I mean is there isn't 1 Nav beacon per system all with different morse code programing. This would be hell on storage space. The single Nav beacon would have a simple program that would "read system name" and spit out the morse version of it. Procedurally generate this 1 Nav beacon into any system the cmdr enters and bam, simple.

The UA may do the same, although with a distortion. Meaning the chances of "finding raxxla" are slim to none as the UA would simply be reading from a system storage file containing information on names in a system.

Granted, there could be a single line of code in the UA saying "if name= x then morse = raxxla" but other than that the morse does absolutely nothing for us.

Based on the way devs use program files to limit content sizes the morse is likely not eve stored on the UA itself.
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Derthek said:
As I have some experience in game design (3 years 3d modelin, 2 years programming) I think it's safe to assume the programming for the UA is quite simple, in regards to sound generation.

If you take the Nav beacon for example there is technically only 1 Nav beacon in the game. What I mean is there isn't 1 Nav beacon per system all with different morse code programing. This would be hell on storage space. The single Nav beacon would have a simple program that would "read system name" and spit out the morse version of it. Procedurally generate this 1 Nav beacon into any system the cmdr enters and bam, simple.

The UA may do the same, although with a distortion. Meaning the chances of "finding raxxla" are slim to none as the UA would simply be reading from a system storage file containing information on names in a system.

Granted, there could be a single line of code in the UA saying "if name= x then morse = raxxla" but other than that the morse does absolutely nothing for us.

Based on the way devs use program files to limit content sizes the morse is likely not eve stored on the UA itself.
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So basically what you're saying is that UA reacts to conditions around it... now let's say that condition was tied to something more abstract like a player's rank or EFP status? Has anyone tried testing what the UA does in the presence of a player with a different Elite rank? I may be way off here but it almost makes me think that you have to be pretty high ranked (as in Elite) in order to access the UA program's higher functions. That doesn't seem so far off if you consider that with the latest mission revamps you now have ranking requirements to take certain missions so certainly the programming is there. Maybe you have to be Elite AND be allied to say The Dark Wheel in order to get Raxxla's Mailing address?
 

Atinus

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There was a community goal associated with the Halsey disappearance. What did that actually entail? What were commanders supposed to do? Go to Leoniceno, sign up, gather exploration data along the route, I remember that. And then deliver it back.

So perhaps Frontier thought that somebody might stumble on an artefact during that time, and deliver it back to Leoniceno during that time while dropping off discovery data.

Here were the Halsey routes, from Galnet. The top one is the route actually taken, including the added Azaleach, and then those where Halsey never arrived.

Third published:

Hip 53688
Tinia
Aleumoxii
78 Ursae Majoris
Dietri
Su
Furuhjelm I-645
Azaleach (president goes missing)
Saga (president never arrives, Galnet story)
Delphin (president never arrives)
Nanomam (president never arrives)
Coriccha (president never arrives)
Ross 860 (president never arrives)

Second published:

Hip 53688
Tinia
78 Ursae Majoris
Su
Furuhjlem I-645
Saga
Delphin
Nanoman
Coriccha
Ross 860


First published:

Hip 53688
Tinia
78 Ursae Majoris
Su
Furuhjlem I-645

Of those, I note that somebody says they found an artefact at Delphin on the Wiki page at http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_Artefact although it says it was unconfirmed.
 
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