Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Cmdr Clade]

What else do we know could produce multiple system failures? The Unknown Artefact, as it eats through systems.
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Consider exactly how a Capital ship "picks up" a UA......can you imagine cargo scooping with SS1????.......I don't think so.

IF SS1 detoured to get a UA, then the UA must have been in a smaller ship, which docked in the SS1 docking bay.

If the UA had been transferred to SS1, its just possible someone may have noticed the degradation of their systems - and got rid of the thing.

If the UA was still in a smaller ship, in the docking bay - the degradation of the smaller, possibly unmanned ship, may well have gone unnoticed - till the UA ate its way out - degraded (a capital ship docking bay is not sealed from space like a coriolis station) and exploded/warped away. The SS1, which was running late, was trying to warp - oops.....explosion. Yes you could call it a "multiple systems failure" I guess....

 

[Nicholas Powell]

* The final report indicated it was the result of a "complex, multi-system failure". What else do we know could produce multiple system failures?

To half-joke, Hudson Dock in BD-02 2338. To summarise from GalNet, when another capital ship (the Nevermore) was being built there, it suffered all kinds of technical problems.
There again, there was no mention of UAs, only (I think) the use of copper instead of gold in its construction.


@Cmdr Clade - nice thinking, the comedy of SS1 scooping anything!

 

[Cmdr Clade]

If the UA was a plague carrier - it would be designed to degrade/explode inside space stations. (and spread spores/whatever)

It does NOT degrade in space stations

Therefore....it is not a plague carrier.

Easy....

 

[Patau82]

For example
Bast is the name of the star

the planet orbiting it is THFC-EST 1882 (a planet name after Tottenham, all I can say if there isn't one named Arsenal I'm not playing any lonnger lol)


Surya is another one where all the planets are named Surya except one is named Arka.

hart station was originally called white hart lane, that one is a backer named planet and station tanmark has one too

 

[knowles2]

To half-joke, Hudson Dock in BD-02 2338. To summarise from GalNet, when another capital ship (the Nevermore) was being built there, it suffered all kinds of technical problems.
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The only technical problem was with Frontier turret code be bugged. Which they turn into a pretty cool in game story.

 

[daygobah]

If the UA was a plague carrier - it would be designed to degrade/explode inside space stations. (and spread spores/whatever)

It does NOT degrade in space stations

Therefore....it is not a plague carrier.

Easy....

The persons that drink the Koolaid do not like observations like yours to make sense.

Its already known listening to them wont bring about anything new and people still do it.

So factual observations do not help. It just makes them think of more strange ideas.

 

[Jimblob Grim]

Any chance of a UA recording from systems COL 285 sector pz-c B14-3 and or HIP 35900 ?

 

[Cmdr Clade]

If the UA was a plague carrier - it would be designed to degrade/explode inside space stations. (and spread spores/whatever)

It does NOT degrade in space stations

Therefore....it is not a plague carrier.



Easy....

Apologies for replying to my own post

I wanted to clarify why releasing spores in deep space is not efficient.

The average solar system is 99.99999999999999999996% Empty. (aprox)
If the spores spread out in a globe from deep space - the probability of any of them hitting something habitable is for all practical purposes - zero. Therefore the chance of spreading plague that way is almost exactly zero.
If you wanted to spread plague you would design something to activate within space stations coz thats where the people are.

We know that a rare form of Tea is the cure for plague.
We can deduce that UA's don't spread plague.
Therefore - the whole plague thing is a side track and nothing to do with UAs.

 

[simulacrae]

It does NOT degrade in space stations

Really? I didn't see this test. Please link

I wanted to clarify why releasing spores in deep space is not efficient.

While I don't disagree with the inefficiency - and I believe they are intended to be introduced in an atmosphere - I don't hold it as dogma (Edit) Or should i say canonn...

It might be possible that a civilization more advanced than ours prepares an artificial or artificially modified phage (or bacterial) DNA which is capable of proliferating actively under suitable conditions and at the same time carries an intelligent message encoded in its base sequence. Biochemistry on our planet is still not advanced enough to synthesize such sophisticated biomolecules, but, judging from the recent progress in biological sciences, it is most likely that our civilization will gain enough information to carry out such a project within a few decades. It has already been suggested that there is no technical difficulty in sending a phage or microorganism to other stars (Crick and Orgel, 1973). The message-carrying particles encapsulated for safety can easily be launched to other stars directionally or isotropically by a civilization such as ours.

Quoting from:Is Bacteriophage ~X174 DNA a Message from an Extraterrestrial Intelligence? HIROMITSU YOKOO* AND TAIRO OSHIMAt
*Department of Physics, School of Medicine, Kyorin University Hachioji, Tokyo 192, Japan and tMitsubishi-Kasei Institute of Life Sciences, Machida, Tokyo 19~, Japan
Received May 22, 1978; revised August 30, 1978. ICARUS 38, 148-153 (1979)

 

[Cmdr Clade]

Really? I didn't see this test. Please link

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As I expected - I can't find it - I can find things saying it degrades when in "open space" and I can find references to ejecting it inside a station but that doesn't say what happened.

And I can find a reference to it not damaging your ship while you are docked.

Perhaps I dreamed it......if this has not been tested it would seem like a fairly easy (and perhaps important) test to do.

Anyone else have any knowledge of this?????????

 

[simulacrae]

As I expected - I can't find it - I can find things saying it degrades when in "open space" and I can find references to ejecting it inside a station but that doesn't say what happened.

The only in station test I know of was where it got crushed ... But I don't think i ever saw video of it. Would be interesting if it didn't decay - because that would differentiate it from the canisters i think.. now im going to have to go release a canister in a station and watch it

 

[Cmdr Clade]

The only in station test I know of was where it got crushed ... But I don't think i ever saw video of it. Would be interesting if it didn't decay - because that would differentiate it from the canisters i think.. now im going to have to go release a canister in a station and watch it

You will probably get fined and maybe even shot at....

I shall watch with great interest for the results.....Damnit - I had somehow just assumed it was a well known property - shows how careful you have to be....
I hope someone with a UA is reading this....

 

[Ratking15]

Any chance of a UA recording from systems COL 285 sector pz-c B14-3 and or HIP 35900 ?

Why those places? Also have you checked already to see if they havn't been done yet?

 

[simulacrae]

Really? I didn't see this test. Please link

/QUOTE]

And I can find a reference to it not damaging your ship while you are docked.

You are right about it not damaging the ship while docked .... Or else our testers would have lost their UAs long ago ..... I got no explanation other than game mechanics for that . That is aother test tho- see if the biowaste (edit - or is it chemical waste that does it) eats your hold or not while docked.

 

[Ratking15]

You are right about it not damaging the ship while docked .... Or else our testers would have lost their UAs long ago ..... I got no explanation other than game mechanics for that . That is aother test tho- see if the biowaste (edit - or is it chemical waste that does it) eats your hold or not while docked.

It doesn't because when you dock the station is then meant to keep your ship in the same condition that you docked it in unless you paid for repairs which it then keeps you up to what you paid for, I think of this as like an thing stations had to agree on because there would be ships going around with Toxic waste and such which when they weren't being used or just plainly docked they would erode away and then the owner could claim that it was the station's fault for not taking care of his/her ship.

 

[Cmdr Clade]

You are right about it not damaging the ship while docked .... Or else our testers would have lost their UAs long ago ..... I got no explanation other than game mechanics for that . That is aother test tho- see if the biowaste (edit - or is it chemical waste that does it) eats your hold or not while docked.

I just added to the wiki to suggest checking the decay rate inside a station. We shall see what happens.....

 

[Ratking15]

I just added to the wiki to suggest checking the decay rate inside a station. We shall see what happens.....

You know that's very hard to do right? As there's loads of places for the UA to get stuck on and it may just hit the end of the station too even if I'm at the entrance and I eject it.

 

[Jimblob Grim]

Why those places? Also have you checked already to see if they havn't been done yet?

Both uninhabited systems on a rough line between azaleach and Furuhjelm I-645.
As far as I can see on the wiki, COL 285 sector pz-c B14-3 and HIP 35900 haven't had a UA test but I'm aware that the wiki isn't complete.

 

[Cymek]

Lets hope the U/A is actually something and not just a placeholder for as yet unimplemented content.

 

[simulacrae]

You know that's very hard to do right? As there's loads of places for the UA to get stuck on and it may just hit the end of the station too even if I'm at the entrance and I eject it.

YA I will run a few canister tests - in an hour or so.