Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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You could be right, but for me it's just that we may have to face up to the fact that it could be solved (my money is going on it being a "DOH!" situation.......we had our chance to save humanity and we missed it. :D

I will however say that if I am right the person/people who came up with this puzzle need to explain themselves! I'm still treating this as a test bed (maybe FD are too) maybe they have learned a lot about how to add content with depth that's difficult, but no so obscure that everyone misses it!

You know what - if it's something 'obvious' that we've collectively missed, then #facepalm all the way - although, like you say, some serious questions will have to be asked of the puzzle-setters!

Right, I need a cold shower. And I mean *cold* ;)
 
Well since were putting all sorts of theories on the table....

There's the theory that the UA is looking for Thargoid equivalent of Earth-likes.

So Ammonia Worlds.

Apparently according to sources the atmosphere found inside captured Thargoid crafts was found to be "slight lower temperature than humans tolerate and slightly higher pressure".

So I spent a good while looking at Ammonia-Wolds, estimating what I thought would be the correct range and started looking for worlds with those characteristics (needle in a haystack =( )

Most AWs seemed to be at 2.28 atmospheres which since lots were like that, I was happy to class as "slightly higher" than Earth's 1.0 and suitable for Thargoids.

This just left the correct temperature range, I hazarded a guess at say -40c to 0c ideal, so 233 Kelvin to 273K.

Best candidate I could find was this one @ 2.28Atmos and 219K (-54c)

[video=youtube;FzDhZPB3PfM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDhZPB3PfM[/video]

I dropped the UA actually in the drop area of the planet, pre-UA loss ((´д`)), nothing as far as I could see but I would have liked the temperature to be a little higher for Thargoids to be honest.

There are going to be better candidates out there if anyone knows of any.
 
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Anyone tried to find a convoy with UA while having a UA in the cargo bay? Sounds something easy to miss. Also engaging random WSS and USS would be a possibility as well. Running into something interesting would make sense, wouldn't it? (as in the UA unlocks new possibilities in WSS, USS or SSS)
 
Hello there,

Someone probably already did that but couldn't find it so....
Has anyone tried to play th recording faster?

Just guessing here...sry if done already ^^
 
Well since were putting all sorts of theories on the table....

There's the theory that the UA is looking for Thargoid equivalent of Earth-likes.

So Ammonia Worlds.

Apparently according to sources the atmosphere found inside captured Thargoid crafts was found to be "slight lower temperature than humans tolerate and slightly higher pressure".

So I spent a good while looking at Ammonia-Wolds, estimating what I thought would be the correct range and started looking for worlds with those characteristics (needle in a haystack =( )

Most AWs seemed to be at 2.28 atmospheres which since lots were like that, I was happy to class as "slightly higher" than Earth's 1.0 and suitable for Thargoids.

This just left the correct temperature range, I hazarded a guess at say -40c to 0c ideal, so 233 Kelvin to 273K.

Best candidate I could find was this one @ 2.28Atmos and 219K (-54c)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzDhZPB3PfM

I dropped the UA actually in the drop area of the planet, pre-UA loss ((´д`)), nothing as far as I could see but I would have liked the temperature to be a little higher for Thargoids to be honest.

There are going to be better candidates out there if anyone knows of any.

This a good test, even if it failed. Perhaps temp was to low?

The things I belive:

- solvable from day one 1.2
- solvable even without discovering Morse.
- location is the succees criterion that will unlock it.
- there will be a doh moment
 
The things I belive:

- solvable from day one 1.2
- solvable even without discovering Morse.
- location is the succees criterion that will unlock it.
- there will be a doh moment

I think I agree with all of those, plus:
- UA will still have a use
- We will have done the correct test, badly
 
I will however say that if I am right the person/people who came up with this puzzle need to explain themselves! I'm still treating this as a test bed (maybe FD are too) maybe they have learned a lot about how to add content with depth that's difficult, but no so obscure that everyone misses it!

Can't help but agree. It has regularly occurred to me that I have learned about as much about the mechanics of the game and the gaps in it's functionality from this thread as I have from playing it. While I wouldn't suggest it has been a kind of Beta-test level of test bed for pure mechanics, it must surely have served FDev as you suggest. (It's certainly informed/slowed my budding plans to 'run' short non-contradictory-to-communal-lore personal lore adventures at my own in-game credit expense for other players.)
Further to this, coming from a tabletop background for RP, the massive mechanical limitations of Elite Dangerous for this kind of thing has only made more frustrating the lack of a 'Storyteller' or 'Dungeon Master' element. Or, simply, a sense of narration over a sense of ill-equipped deep-end conjecture that has seen umpteen theories cost scores of players hundreds of fruitless hours. The danger of hindsight frustrations on the part of many a player after the Big Reveal is something that I acknowledged for myself when I first decided to involve myself in this mystery but it's been such an unwieldy affair of running around without any tangible confirmations or saving-grace steers that I do respectfully expect others to be rightfully miffed.
Can't see the UA in your hold even when published lore vetted by Michael Brookes himself (first story in the anthology) openly suggests access to cargo in at least a Python? I'm not saying FPS or Planding should by any means predate any further mysteries involving cargo, but a hands-on* narrative rather than the aloof absence of reasonable (and lore-propelling, as well as lore-fitting) tidbits of information would go a loooong way to keeping playerbase faith intact during the next mystery or chapter of an ongoing one.

*Not saying hourly or even daily, but weekly tailored sub-hints and responsive steers with reasonable (but measured) hard info over 3mths are exceptionally conspicuous by absence from the progress of this mystery. For example, having one GalNet post tangentially refer to the material of the UA's construction, or its hollowness, or its solidity, or confirming the smell from the hold, or whatever else would be immensely controllable in terms of giving too much away but still gold dust from time to time for the 100s of players who have dipped in and out of a mystery like this.

An off-the-cuff example:
GalNet has received notice of a strike at Leonard Nimoy station by loading staff. The strike is due to union concerns over loading conditions and the station's failure to fine commanders not ensuring the safety of their cargo bays for loading and unloading purposes. While uncorroborated, reports of at least one vessel containing un-sluiced toxic chemicals and causing caustic burns to two loaders have been circulated widely.
"I don't get paid for this nonsense. I don't even know what that cargo was exactly. Some kind of tiny glowing fish were swimming around in it and it had attached itself to the power distributor somehow. Obviously, the commander didn't even know what he was delivering. The station should put its foot down with these clowns."
(And that's three confirmations which could easily be whittled to one, hypothetically speaking.)
 
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This a good test, even if it failed. Perhaps temp was to low?

The things I belive:

- solvable from day one 1.2
- solvable even without discovering Morse.
- location is the succees criterion that will unlock it.
- there will be a doh moment

If the location is the key then it would need to tell us the location the universe is way to big for us to randomly guess the location or run into it.
 
If the location is the key then it would need to tell us the location the universe is way to big for us to randomly guess the location or run into it.

Perhaps the initial clue as to the location of the UA (I believe a radius was given) may be key. On the downside that's still a ton of star systems... rats

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Hello there,

Someone probably already did that but couldn't find it so....
Has anyone tried to play th recording faster?

Just guessing here...sry if done already ^^

Everytime someone says this I think:

[video=youtube;y7g6dKncO-I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7g6dKncO-I&spfreload=10[/video]
 
If I do manage to get a UA, I might need someone to help me with some of my tests... Maybe more than a few people for one of the tests...
 
Has anyone waited for the convoy with the UA to jump and wake scanned it to see where it goes?

They are supposed to be delivering it after all.
 
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As we are running out of time and trying to wrap this up i will now submit my crackpot theories/observations. None of this has led to anything other than me questioning my own sanity. Our brains are wired to recognize patterns, structure, signs in a ocean of random noise for something that should not be there by chance. This is how we detect danger, solve most problems and appreciate a piece of music while hearing it.
At what point should multiple coincidences be regarded as a pattern? Surely by examining something long enough you will find ways to connect certain elements of its nature. But if you convince yourself every line drawn between two dots (made by your own brain/pattern-recognition-machine) is a "hint" made by a creator of a theorized puzzle, that it means you must be getting closer to the solution, are you not standing on the borderlands of madness itself?
Come with me across it.

Observations: The purrs, the howls and the rule of ≤2.

The howls duration and separation are constant across all recordings and comes in two variations alternating in a "ABAB" fashion.
Each howl is followed by "chittering" which is morse code spelling out the the nearest station / body. (this btw is arguably the ONLY piece of purposely hidden structure/nonrandom tangible thing that has been found regarding the whole UA mystery) The morse in the chittering is actually not "stylized" in a way that its is different, its is rather (dare i say it): obfuscated. If you look at it in a spectrogram you will see that the morse is structurally correct. There are short and long duration "chitters" with something that looks like a sinusoidal change in tonality slapped on it to throw us off.

The purrs are different. There are high and low purrs and there is never more than two of the same kind of purr after another. The purrs slowly increase in frequency and the space between each purr decreases, they speed up. The speed/pitch increase may be connected to the health degradation of the UA in space, i found that during an early recording of a bugged UA which did not degrade normally, the purrs did not pitch up over time but did when it took damage from being slapped around by ships. The purrs may seem separated by the howls but as you listen to a lot of recordings in increased speed and feel the constant rythm of the purrs you can hear them during the howls, but not during the chittering. In recordings with especially short morse-chitter you start to hear purrs coming in and out of chittering as their intervals change (try it out yourself! :)). The purrs and the howls+chittering can be seen as two different continuous systems with the chittering "muting" purrs that happens to coincide with its duration. Realizing this and using the "rule of ≤2" you can actually fill a lot of the gaps made by the chittering and interpret the purrs as one single string of highs and lows.

The SAP 8 container seems to affect the UA in some way. A lot of noise is removed and the speed of the purrs is greatly reduced, as are the space between them increased (now "only 3" purrs fits between each howl). The howls and chittering on the other hand does not change. It could be that the SAP 8 is meant highlight the distinction between the purrs and the howls/chittering.

Even if the string of purrs is some kind of code, i cannot for the life of me figure it out.
It would make sense to somehow structure it into morse. This is a nearly complete string of purrs from a recording in the sound analysis thread, highs and lows are 1 and 0 respectively, the x is the only unknown (it can be either 1 or 0 according to "rule of ≤2"):

01010011001100110100110011001011010100110010010011011011001100110110010011001001x0100101

Using high purr = short, low purr = long makes no sense with the "rule of ≤2".
If we make single type purr (low or high) = short and double type purr (low-low or high-high) = long, we have nothing to separate the letters.
We make single high purr = short, double high purr = long, single low purr = separation within a letter, double low purr = separation between letters. We get letters but its just a jumble of mostly T´s and E´s (which would not differ much from random noise i guess)

From here on is where i draw the line between observations and pure conjecture. Get your tinfoil ready.

In relation to each other the high and low purrs always stays at a frequency ratio of 3:2 (the relation of a fundamental and a perfect fifth in pythagorean tuning) as they speed/pitch up. The "color/light signals" (green and violet) that the UA emits does not follow the "rule of ≤2", nor do they "pitch" or speed up but the "frequency ratio" of the two colors is the same (3:2 / perfect fifth) as of the purrs. Newtons color wheel illustrates it somewhat : http://filmmakeriq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Newtons_color_circle.png

The "Song/harmony of the spheres" is a concept pythagoras thought of that relates the orbits of different bodies to each other as different tonal frequencies in harmony. The sun, moon and planets create an "orbital resonance".

"And here the wheel" implies that the current leader of the dark wheel is someone called "Neptune Ryder"

Neptune is in an orbital resonance with parts of the Kuiper belt called "resonant trans-neptunian objects" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonant_trans-Neptunian_object

The "main" group of these objects, include pluto and orcus (both named after the "underworld") which all keep an 3:2 orbital resonance (The same relationship as between the purrs and between the light signals) with neptune (god of the sea, interchangeable with Poseidon (greek)).

The UA features ocean stuff but also some kind of ribcage/bone stuff.

The "Cerberus plague", cerberus is three headed hound that guards the entrance to the underworld.
"Three pronged structure", why these choice of words? (Neptune wears a trident and it is the symbol of the planet)

The "cure" for the cerberus plague is tea from Heike, a star in the constellation Hercules. Hercules Subdued/defeated cerberus so he could enter the underworld or something like that.

The scientists that are working on the cure and figured out the tea from Heike is works against it are operating from Newton dock, at a star in the Ophiuchus constellation, "the healer".

theres a lot of more "mythical" connections but that is bound to happen when the subject is stars/constellations.


End theory; Something something dark wheel, secret base on one of the transneptunian objects, maybe orcus, the UA will reveal it, maybe :)



Got exhausted writing this, ill maybe add more later.
/ CMDR LOBEY
 
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Has anyone waited for the convoy with the UA to jump and wake scanned it to see where it goes?

They are supposed to be delivering it after all.

They appear to jump randomly. It isn't a good idea to follow too long, the chances of losing it ramp up. Following tests have mainly been done on hafnium convoys as they seem to be identical. Maybe not, but if you find a ua, get it, don't tart about being clever.
 
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