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If you can mass lock a T9, couldnt you just take it ? I dont think my Python is big enough to do so, are we talking Clipper & Conda ?

Well by all means if you want to try to do it that way, do it but others who might not be so savey with their combat skills and have a lot of time could just wait it out for the UA to pop out as it does eventually given enough time.
 
as for strategy to get the cargo, i had 4x the hafnium version but the strategy might also fit for the UA version.

(sorry, didn't keep up. Ignore if this was already mentioned)


  • the convoi starts with 1xT9 2xConda (wing of 3) and 4 smaller ships (wing of four)
  • after following it for ca. 4 minutes the smal ship wing accellerates and jumps out. (gone, wake was scanned)
  • after 2 additional minutes the remaining wing charged and jumped somewhere else. (scanned and followed)
  • after a SC trip droppet at an outpost.
  • again: after some minutes one conda accellerates and jumps out (wake not scanned)
  • ca. 2 mins later the remaining wing of 2 jumps (scanned and followed)
  • after SC dropped at a station
  • again: after some minutes the last conda accellerates and jumps out (wake not scanned)
  • i'm alone with the T9
  • ca. 2 mins later it jumps (scanned and followed)
  • repeated this for one more jump... and took the hafnium

if thats always the case you can invest 10mins and are alone with the transporter (for easy grabs)
 
Well by all means if you want to try to do it that way, do it but others who might not be so savey with their combat skills and have a lot of time could just wait it out for the UA to pop out as it does eventually given enough time.

Savey combat skills ? You must be talking about someone else :) I dont even use a mouse

I am just wondering how big you have to be to mass lock (if it makes any difference, it would only delay them a couple of minutes, certainly not enough to trigger cargo hatch) and how close you have to be. When I found a UA in my Python, I stayed pretty close, certainly within 2Km, and the T9 did its normal Halfnium clone trick of FSD charging at about 9 mins, jump about 30 secs later
 
If you can mass lock a T9, couldnt you just take it ? I dont think my Python is big enough to do so, are we talking Clipper & Conda ?

Python is big enough; this was my plan. But if they never jump then just waiting for the UA to drop out would be safer.

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Please try to see if they do jump eventually or not because this could make it much easier to get UA's and with less chance of losing an chance at a UA since CMDR's could then stick close to the Type 9 until friends come if they can't wait a long time for the UA to break out.

I'll try it tonight if I can find a convoy SSS.
 
Python is big enough; this was my plan. But if they never jump then just waiting for the UA to drop out would be safer.

I'll try it tonight if I can find a convoy SSS.

Just remembered. Mass Lock does not apply when jumping to another system. Thats why my Python had no effect on the T9. I will try and fly up the tailpipe of a Hafnium convoy next time I run across 1, see if it changes their behaviour
(I still assume Hafniums behave exactly like UA, does anyone who has seen a UA disagree, or is it a reasonable assumption?)
 
I think the canonn needs a heavily armed wing of those new Cobra Mk.IVs when they come out for... Scientific purposes and legit S.A.R missions if you know what I mean.
 
I think the canonn needs a heavily armed wing of those new Cobra Mk.IVs when they come out for... Scientific purposes and legit S.A.R missions if you know what I mean.

LOL there will always be those that will seek to stop us.......Despite my "white coat" my usual ride is a bounty hunting python, I haven't done nearly enough PVP.. I left it early on not wanting to lose money and now individual pirates mostly just run for it when I interdict em.....spoil sports.

Especially if we eventually get a CG, the kill joys will be queueing up!
 
My advice; ignore the howls and focus on the purrs. If you listen to many different recordings you will hear that it is a single continous line of purrs, slowly increasing in speed and muted for the chittering to come through, giving the perception of coming in groups separated by the howl.
There are purrs during the howls, there would be purrs during the chittering aswell, they are just muted (if it gets aligned right at the start or end of the chittering, you can sometimes hear the purr being muted/unmuted) try to "imagine" the missing purrs in the chittering and you will get it.

Good luck

On that note: if you find yourself with gaps when the purrs are muted, you can try using the "no more than 2" rule to fill them. So if you see something like:

-''--<muted>

(or 01100<muted> for those that prefer the binary notation)

You can probably assume that the muted purr is a high/fast purr, since there were two low/slow purrs before it. Most likely you won't be able to fill all gaps, but you should be able to fill some of them.

Still, when you do this it'd be good to keep that annotated slightly differently, to indicate that it was done (makes it easier to reinterpret/apply new gap filling rules later if you mark the gaps).
 
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Just remembered. Mass Lock does not apply when jumping to another system. Thats why my Python had no effect on the T9. I will try and fly up the tailpipe of a Hafnium convoy next time I run across 1, see if it changes their behaviour
(I still assume Hafniums behave exactly like UA, does anyone who has seen a UA disagree, or is it a reasonable assumption?)

I missed my first UA by trying to mass lock T-9, I've tried it on a few Hafnium and didn't work either. However it has worked on convoys carrying Antiques, I managed to mass lock T-9 and all escorts jumped out.
 
I think the canonn needs a heavily armed wing of those new Cobra Mk.IVs when they come out for... Scientific purposes and legit S.A.R missions if you know what I mean.

I'll have a talk with the guys in finance, see if we have the budget for a fleet.
 
Hafnium Convoy Report:
Ceto - Unpopulated System between Azerleach and Timocanu
00:00 Lawless Hafnium Convoy encountered. Normal T9+2 Conda wing, + extra defence wing
00:01 Approach to within 400m, using Power Management for fine speed control
00:08 T9 starts pre-jump wobble, extra defence wing jumps
00:10 Jump to YIN SECTOR ZU-Y B3 (Unpopulated) - Both Condas still in attendance
00:14 T9 and Wing enter normal space - Approach to within 250m
00:19 T9 starts pre-jump wobble. Continues for longer than normal
00:21 Jump to YIN SECTOR WO-A B1 (Unpopulated) - Both Condas still in attendance. T9 begin odd circling flight, almost as if attempting to interdict
00:25 Single Conda enters normal space, lost from Wing
00:31 Circling Flight Pattern continues, so interdicted T9. Destroyed Conda Wing, took down T9 Shields, Hatchet Breakers till empty, deploy Collector Limpets. 3 Charges of my dual A5 SCB used, heat damage taken.

Getting close did not prevent the T9 from jumping. When within 250m, the pre-jump wobble did take longer than previously noticed, but only by a minute, not long enough to make a difference with a UA
 
Hi guys.

I see you talking about looting the convoy's.

I've had several SSS convoy the last few days and looted them with ease with a python.

I've followed the T9 and I dont think you need to keep distance cos each time 2 anaconda's have waked out and left just the T9 and 2 anaconda's in the convoy. Even when I scan the T9 they stay in formation and don't escape.
I then take the T9 shields down, attach limpet and boost away from it.
All the time I am spamming chaff.
When the limpet spills the cargo I target the UA or Hafium and collect it with a drone while stationary still spamming chaff and SCB. (important to target the UA or drone will collect everything).
Job done, get out of there.

It's a quick smash and grab and quite brutal when 2 anaconda focus you but chaff and SCB make it easy. I've never needed more than 2 SCB so one bank should be enough. I recommend 2 chaff.
I'm finding plenty of SSS and had UA and Hafium in the same area.


Edit: Pretty much as Dommarraa has posted.
 
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Hafnium Convoy Report:
Ceto - Unpopulated System between Azerleach and Timocanu
00:00 Lawless Hafnium Convoy encountered. Normal T9+2 Conda wing, + extra defence wing
00:01 Approach to within 400m, using Power Management for fine speed control
00:08 T9 starts pre-jump wobble, extra defence wing jumps
00:10 Jump to YIN SECTOR ZU-Y B3 (Unpopulated) - Both Condas still in attendance
00:14 T9 and Wing enter normal space - Approach to within 250m
00:19 T9 starts pre-jump wobble. Continues for longer than normal
00:21 Jump to YIN SECTOR WO-A B1 (Unpopulated) - Both Condas still in attendance. T9 begin odd circling flight, almost as if attempting to interdict
00:25 Single Conda enters normal space, lost from Wing
00:31 Circling Flight Pattern continues, so interdicted T9. Destroyed Conda Wing, took down T9 Shields, Hatchet Breakers till empty, deploy Collector Limpets. 3 Charges of my dual A5 SCB used, heat damage taken.

Getting close did not prevent the T9 from jumping. When within 250m, the pre-jump wobble did take longer than previously noticed, but only by a minute, not long enough to make a difference with a UA

Good report. What are you flying?
 
Hi guys.

I see you talking about looting the convoy's.

I've had several SSS convoy the last few days and looted them with ease with a python.

Where abouts?

I'm hopping about the Halsey route and finding lots of Military but I'm unsure as to whether a UA can even appear here, done loads but no sightings.
 
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Where abouts?

I'm hopping about the Halsey route and finding lots of Military but I'm unsure as to whether a UA can even appear here, done loads but no sightings.
I spent a day or 2 trying it. Spotted a couple of Hafniums but not as good as sitting put in a known system.
 
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