We went down the Vespine road at one point, it is from the family(?) name for wasps and hornets in Latin, Vespinae. We didn't get anywhere with it the first time it came up, but more eyes/thoughts might see something we missed.
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We went down the Vespine road at one point, it is from the family(?) name for wasps and hornets in Latin, Vespinae. We didn't get anywhere with it the first time it came up, but more eyes/thoughts might see something we missed.
As far as I know black boxes don't emit morse code. They do play a short voice message though.
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Are Thargoids ammonia-based life or do they just live on worlds with ammonia atmospheres? Drew's summary of the lore isn't clear on that. What would ammonia-based mean in this context anyway? I mean humans are described as carbon-based life, not water-based or oxygen-based.
Thargoid motherships are octagons, but thargons were pentagonal. IMO it's a bit questionable to conclude that Thargoids have a thing for octagons based on one data point (out of only two datapoints that we have).
Yeah, and realistically they only had octagons because of software limitations. For all we know they could be completely different. Hell the UA could be a thargon
What was in the sap 8? Crystalline structure? Like honey?
Sap 8... 8 as in octagon?
Sorry haha just thinking out loud
I am thinking data crystal (used in the new lore) with secret coordinates of something, such as Dark Wheel/CIEP bases, INRA bases, Raxxla, something in Soontill perhaps, etc.
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What was in the sap 8? Crystalline structure? Like honey?
Sap 8... 8 as in octagon?
Sorry haha just thinking out loud
Thargoid honey. Known for its y smell. So the whole thing is about a new rare trading item. *sigh*
I like the "Vespine" angle - would love to learn more about Vespine Transportation Systems.
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Try phoning it - "Hello, I've found your canister of dodgy crystalline stuff"
That we don't really know. Drew's summary was a collection of snippets from around the web. I passed him my own version which I have posted up on a thread in the Mobius group and he added a couple of missing items to his but as far as I know it's mostly just info floating on the web (I'd like but I'm on my work comp and it doesn't like that forum's link). If I was to guess more than likely Thargoids would not be carbon based lifeforms because Ammonia dissolves carbon so more than likely they would have to be something else that resists ammonia's natural acidic nature perhaps silicon?
Here's an interesting excerpt on what an Ammonia planet might be like: "A biosphere based on ammonia would likely exist at temperatures or air pressures that are extremely unusual in relation to life on Earth. Life on Earth usually exists within the melting point and boiling point of water at normal pressure, between 0 °C (273 K) and 100 °C (373 K); at normal pressure ammonia's melting and boiling points are between −78 °C (195 K) and −33 °C (240 K). Chemical reactions generally proceed more slowly at a lower temperature. Therefore, ammonia-based life, if it exists, might metabolize more slowly and evolve more slowly than life on Earth.[44] On the other hand, lower temperatures could also enable living systems to use chemical species which at Earth temperatures would be too unstable to be useful.[40]
Ammonia could be a liquid at Earth-like temperatures, but at much higher pressures; for example, at 60 atm, ammonia melts at −77 °C (196 K) and boils at 98 °C (371 K).[32]" Ammonia and ammonia–water mixtures remain liquid at temperatures far below the freezing point of pure water, so such biochemistries might be well suited to planets and moons orbiting outside the water-based habitability zone. Such conditions could exist, for example, under the surface of Saturn's largest moon Titan."
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Vespa is the Italian word for Wasp. It's called that way because it has a wasp like shape if you look at it from the side.
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The more I read about this... the more I'm starting to think Thargoids = Tholians but...
Could be something in this...
From the wiki: "Each cargo canister is shaped like an octagonal prism and is about the size of a full grown man. They have details on the canister describing the type of commodity inside, and each one is unique."
This is interesting right here: "The body parts are carbon-based but contain traces of several previously un-named elements."
Only body parts are mentioned AND we do know that they build ships/components out of "organic" material. Perhaps the "core" Thargoid lifeform isn't carbon-based in itself but builds on to itself out of carbon based materials?
That does bring me back to the UA. The outside part seems to be made of something entirely different than the shiny "things" contained within the head.
This is where I need to stop and back out real science from the game's handwavium, still though that does present a really bizarre situation if true.
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Indeed... I'll look into some stuff tonight after I finish with canonn group thing. We have 47 members and more coming in every hour. I'll wait until the applications run dry then publish the list.
Other than the same sorts of conversations we are having now, and looking on the Galaxy Map for worlds or factions that might have been related to that name, or its English equivalents (without success) not very far.
Edit: Heh, although having said that, there is a series of systems called WASP-1, -2, 3, etc. I don't remember that, pretty sure no one has checked them out either. Not sure how many there are.
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