Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Even if I'm on this since day one, I cannot remember if this very simple test was done:

1) deploy the UA.
2) check the navigation panel and take note of all the systems in there
3) scoop the UA
4) see if some NEW system shows up with the UA in hold

Its worth a punt. I would suspect that someone would have noticed it, but it is worth formally checking from a known UA Source System
 
Well sort of, I dont see any theory of any value anywhere, but it hasnt stopped me hunting.
All of the hunting through texts conflating ideas to give theoretical untestable, unknowable and irrelevant background for the UA just leaves me cold. Thats why I want multiple threads so the tinfoil hat brigade can go crazy(er) without grinding my gears.
I love you all, really I do.

Ah don't give up man, I have a few theories... well more like specific things to try without any kind of theory whatsoever :) - I just need those bloody Hafnium and SAP 8 canisters. I'm at the point to go hunting for them now. I'll take shield cells. It'll be fine!

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Its worth a punt. I would suspect that someone would have noticed it, but it is worth formally checking from a known UA Source System

On it, few mins.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if there is some else out there besides the UA. Maybe the UA is a symptom and not the cause. The apple, not the tree.

I'll open a research branch within the canonn dedicated to non UA investigation. Going to load up my DBx "RSV Scooby-Doo" with scanners and other equipment. It'll be a nice break from the current treadmill :D

Spent some time last night playing with Sketchup (Awesome Idea Grumbleweed! ) and excel - entering in systems and trying to find clusters and centers .... The plague has an obvious cluster with a bunch of outliers.... unfortunately the cluster is far away from both Halseys trip and most UA recoveries (as far as i can tell) - I know im trodding paths that are well worn - but im a sucker for excel sheets and maps. Not finished with things yet - will put something together in a bit.
 
BTW, Murp and all the other Redditors out there, here is the first page of Google results of Unknown Artefact threads on Reddit. There seem to be more than just a couple. There is at least one more page. ;-)

Our wiki and this thread show up on page 2, even when you say "Reddit" in the search. Cos that's just how cool we all are.

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wanted to throw that in:

https://np.reddit.com/r/UnknownArti...all_that_stuff_about_the_artifacts_and_their/



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Relevant thread for ease of access:

  • TiSoBr: Due the upcoming season of addons, especially the planetary landing, (I guess) there are far more additions. It's not an accident - the upcoming Addon, all that stuff about the artifacts (and their shape #cough#), etc. They got a plan.. so be patient.
  • CMDR_JOERN: Looks like a key.
  • TiSoBr: Close enough, but nope. #waving the historical flag#
  • Wilkin_: Is knowledge of elite lore required to crack the mystery or does logic suffice? Can you tell us this much? :)
  • TiSoBr: It is! It would be boring if not, wouldn't it?







[–]scribblenose 1 point 4 hours ago
Regarding Elite Lore: (maybe there is other lore that is relevant as well)
FYI: Thargoid missions in FFE:
http://www.jades.org/ffefaq2.htm#tharg1
















[–]TiSoBr 1 point 6 hours ago
Yeah, right. :p











[–]agnoristos 1 point 5 hours ago
Also this “hint”:
Close enough, but nope. #waving the historical flag#
Does that ring any bells?







[–]Wilkin_ 2 points 4 hours ago*
2080, exploration drones sent out according to elite timeline. Almost 1000 years later they seem weird and alien. Damage done from them is due to accumulated radiation of that long time. The drones scan the system (sound similar to discovery scanner), transmit the system data (morse), end of transmission (purr). That is my interpretation of it. :p Edit for wrong time. 2080 first probes, 2130 interstellar probes. Whatever, you catch my drift. :) Edit2: nah, thargoids and bacteria all the way it seems according to the ama thread in elite dangerous subreddit. :) liked my theory better. :p











[–]0833-45 2 points 3 hours ago
I'd say that this gives a good indication that the disease theory about phage thing is correct. Shape = looks like a Bacteriophage, history = mycoid virus sent to the thargoids. This is the most logical link that I can perceive.







[–]TiSoBr 1 point 2 hours ago
I like how you think. The time will show, if you're right.







[–]Wilkin_ 1 point an hour ago
That is fine and hoopy - but is there more that can be done now? Or is this mystery unsolveable atm? Seems there is something to be done, as FD is suprised that the mystery is not solved until now. Can you confirm that there is something left to be actively done in the game, that would qualify as having the riddle solved?







[–]TiSoBr 2 points an hour ago
I'm quoting David Braben from the Elite: Meet Q&A now:
They are out there already. You just need to discover them.














 
Ah don't give up man, I have a few theories... well more like specific things to try without any kind of theory whatsoever :) - I just need those bloody Hafnium and SAP 8 canisters. I'm at the point to go hunting for them now. I'll take shield cells. It'll be fine!

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On it, few mins.

Do those test, indeed.
But remember, SAP8 and Hafnium were added later on, in 1.3. So they could be an hint more than a solution to the UA.
I've always tought they make the sound clearer, like in Sleipnir experiment.
Btw the presence of other CMDRs in the same instance, very close to the UA, could be very important as well.
 
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Even if I'm on this since day one, I cannot remember if this very simple test was done:

1) deploy the UA.
2) check the navigation panel and take note of all the systems in there
3) scoop the UA
4) see if some NEW system shows up with the UA in hold

Right so this is done, no effect.

I've tried it in Bast, there was even a permit system in range, no change.
Since I've some other cargo as well, some of the systems on the nav panel are inaccessible with the "excess mass" message - everything stayed the same, no matter if Bob was secure or swimming freely.

Have a vid, but apparently out of dropbox space... might end up with going my own YT then. I would really like every vid in the same place though...
 
Right so this is done, no effect.

I've tried it in Bast, there was even a permit system in range, no change.
Since I've some other cargo as well, some of the systems on the nav panel are inaccessible with the "excess mass" message - everything stayed the same, no matter if Bob was secure or swimming freely.

Have a vid, but apparently out of dropbox space... might end up with going my own YT then. I would really like every vid in the same place though...



Have anyone tried and surface scan a planet with the UA in the cargo hold?
Reports state that it scans surfaces with sonar...
 
Have anyone tried and surface scan a planet with the UA in the cargo hold?
Reports state that it scans surfaces with sonar...

Yeah, I read all of that is done - they even tried taking it to an unexplored planet, to see if it spells out the name before they scan it - it does. So it has "it's own database", not using your ship's.
 
@Lo Lobey - You absolute genius!

Well this was the exact reason for the Biscuit Barrel.

A group activity to pull in a UA specifically to test destructive theories to be agreed upon by group consensus.

The point being instead of one person devoting 150 real life hours to searching resulting in "my precious" and (completely understandably) no destructive tests...

Instead everyone contributes just a few hours each, the result being no "massive investment" for any individual, everyone has contributed a minimal amount (a few hours) and as a result the impact of a destructive test becomes shared and therefore much less, ie The Biscuit Barrel removes the imbalance preventing destructive testing.

Thus enabling the Canonn to perform types of tests which were, hitherto, not possible!

The Canonn - making the impossible possible! :)

Oh [pardon?] me, you're not suggesting another one are you, Bitstorm?! :)
Actually... if you are, and before I get stabbed in the keyboard... another one would be comparatively easy to set up and promote, involve no walls of text from that verbose Luddite Powell, and simply follow the same gist.

The Timocani UA was nabbed about an hour and a half after kick-off. The successful wing of four included two winged ships that were in-system for some time before that, but even so, even accounting for amazing luck, that's the kind of biscuit you can dunk twice.

For my money, anyway, that suggests a substantial jump in spawn rate may very well result from operating in at least one wing in a given system known to spawn at all.

Furthermore, as was noted and enjoyed by the participating commanders, it did also provide an excellent melting pot of direct, swift and amicable communication on the topic of the UAs, the theories and the facts - something that even this thread cannot hope to match useful pace with!
 
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Just my two cents... Firstly regarding the shape, has anyone considered that looking at it on its end it has a three-pronged silhouette? This seems a much more likely shape if the UA is supposed to go into something.

Secondly, of all that I've read regarding this subject one of the things that stood out, and it was only mentioned recently, was the idea of releasing it in or near a space station, or selling at one, and letting it naturally expire. The fact that this is quite a tangible and testable option, not to mention the reddit guy's comment/gifs makes me think it has legs. I feel that it at least needed disprooving wouldn't you agree?
 
Right so this is done, no effect.

I've tried it in Bast, there was even a permit system in range, no change.
Since I've some other cargo as well, some of the systems on the nav panel are inaccessible with the "excess mass" message - everything stayed the same, no matter if Bob was secure or swimming freely.

Have a vid, but apparently out of dropbox space... might end up with going my own YT then. I would really like every vid in the same place though...

Thanks for that!
Btw it remains a good test to do in lore sensitive zones: Soontill, Altair, Achenar, Sirius, and most of all...
POLARIS!
I'm still hoping that some hidden system could show up somewhere...

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Just my two cents... Firstly regarding the shape, has anyone considered that looking at it on its end it has a three-pronged silhouette? This seems a much more likely shape if the UA is supposed to go into something.

Secondly, of all that I've read regarding this subject one of the things that stood out, and it was only mentioned recently, was the idea of releasing it in or near a space station, or selling at one, and letting it naturally expire. The fact that this is quite a tangible and testable option, not to mention the reddit guy's comment/gifs makes me think it has legs. I feel that it at least needed disprooving wouldn't you agree?

WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.
Still waiting: sooner or later it will be done.

1) Selling it at Newton Dock
2) Letting it expire near or inside a station, with a ship very close to its mouth, with FSD charged and ready (two tests in one)
 
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Thanks, and damn. Was hoping to come back and have a second part to the mystery to delve into. Back to the drawing board so. XD
 
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Just my two cents... Firstly regarding the shape, has anyone considered that looking at it on its end it has a three-pronged silhouette? This seems a much more likely shape if the UA is supposed to go into something.

Secondly, of all that I've read regarding this subject one of the things that stood out, and it was only mentioned recently, was the idea of releasing it in or near a space station, or selling at one, and letting it naturally expire. The fact that this is quite a tangible and testable option, not to mention the reddit guy's comment/gifs makes me think it has legs. I feel that it at least needed disprooving wouldn't you agree?

I'll follow up on the shape/fit line of thinking, however currently there is only one thing that we can use to fit anything and that is the fuel/cargo scoop.

I'm excluding the weapon hardpoints because we don't really have control of any of them unless they are armed and featuring some kind of weapon, in other words we can't just open the hatch on an empty one.... unless we're docked and we have no weapons and try to access the weapon loading screen.

So back to the "moving/opening" parts that could feasibly be used which for now is the fuel/cargo scoop.

There are three functions of the scoop:
1. gather fuel
2. gather cargo
3. gather ore

We've done 1 and 2 by scooping the UA, ejecting it, even while we're in a star's scoopable zone so zip. My question is... have we tried #3? in other words has someone equipped their ship with a refinery and scooped the UA? maybe in an asteroid field? One thing I can't help but compare the UA to is a rough diamond. What if... the refinery is able to extract the shiny part of it much like diamond ore is busted and polished off IRL? By the same token let's look at the SAP 8 description which is: "This container holds a crystalline shard of unknown origin. Scans indicate that the foot long shard is suspended inside a modified, self-sustaining, fusion-core containment field. Any breach of the field will result in the containers destruction."

Holds a crystalline shard of unknown origin... the Unknown Artefact maybe?

Thoughts...?
 
Is the UA still believed to be of Thargoid origin? If so, have you guys tried listening to ammonia worlds?

I did from the map and it sounds a bit windy but that's it. Haven't personally taken a trip to one, switched off the music and sat there listening... maybe that should be my next trip somewhere. And no I don't have a UA in the hold so it would be just the planet.
 
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