Im guessing its to do with this :
http://www.allenstroud.co.uk/2014/07/the-evolution-of-villain-doctor-hans.html
ah ninjad
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Im guessing its to do with this :
http://www.allenstroud.co.uk/2014/07/the-evolution-of-villain-doctor-hans.html
ah ninjad
It'd be funny (not really )if Frontier didn't make this solvable. When or after Planet Landings hit, they'll add in a GalNet article about the solution leading to some new developments on some planet.
You're asking the wrong two people, as neither of us have UAs (at least I don't).
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Or honeycomb/hive (take a look at the structure of the "head" of the UA).
A couple have been sold already, and no Thargoids have appeared yet at those stations. Or plague. One even deteriorated in a station and nothing happened there.
As do I - or at least dark masses.
So how would that manifest?
1 - misjump into dark system. Method of triggering? Unknown, but all other attempts by brave CMDRs to do this have failed - so one would expect it simply to happen when carrying a UA. Most of the UAs are very well-travelled and it hasn't happened - so does this rule that idea out? I think so.
2 - New location on map available when UA stowed. Again, the things are well travelled and nobody's noticed anything like that yet... But... One wonders exactly how a CMDR is meant to know where to look on the map! Could be a place that definitely should be in a well-known place (from lore) but isn't, and only shows when you have UA onboard but also, possibly, when you're near the location. Lore-fiends? Any systems we can definitely place, relative to other locations we do have, that are missing?
3 - Picking up a new target in a system while in SC and UA stowed. I.e. the UA unlocks a previously hidden location from an ADS. Or, you have to re-do the ADS with it stowed for it to work. Again, though, we'd need likely systems to try this out.
4 - We come across a planet or other body in a system where it's name is 'unknown' or similar - I.e. where the standard system naming convention doesn't hold. Dropping the UA nearby might yield Morse for a proper name. Again, though - need likely system *and*, more importantly, no such body has been found by anyone ever that we know of.
5 - In some system or other (see above!) there is a substantial mass or other object the UA can identify that we cannot see. My biggest issue with this would be that there's nothing in the UA's behaviour that could read as a distance indicator, only identification - so at best all it could do is tell us there's something there that we can't see.
Have I missed anything? What do you guys think? Favourite ones from this list? Systems that should be visited based on this? Are our UA carriers willing to go on a stomp to a few places based on these ideas?
I've already suggested taking another good look in Soontill. Regardless of anything - it's an important location from lore, and a few of the ideas listed above could be carried out there reasonably easily
It will be soon till Soontill is revisited. Soon.
Say that six times fast and see what happens to the UA. Sorry, couldn't resist.
The problem with all of these, except 1 perhaps, is that the thing eats away at your ship while you travel. So you'd best hope to find what you are looking for soon. Very soon. (heh heh get it?).
The other problem with all of these, except 1, is there are 400 billion systems to check. Without a lead, this is needle in a haystack time. And your ship will expire, with you in it, long before you find something.
My two preferences for trying it though are Soontill and Peregrina, if anyone wanted to give it a whirl. Or Sol and the search for Voyager(s). Wish upon a star, 400 billion of them, that I had a UA to try it with myself.
Edit: For this to work in all cases except 1 above, we would need to assume (there is that word again) that FD is letting the UA spawn only within a certain LY radius of the system or object the UA is supposed to find, based on how fast the UA deteriorates your systems. And that that rate of deterioration is a constant, particularly when applied to thrusters, FSD and power plant (and life support, and scanners). If we could time how long until thrusters or FSD systems were unusable, that would roughly give us the search radius as you could figure out how far you could go in a 40LY 'conda in that time. Add AMUs and maybe you could go a bit further perhaps, and that could be tested out too. Would narrow it down, but you would still be looking at 100s of systems to check, 1000s of planetary bodies.
Edit 2: Throw in the possibility of travelling in a Wing of four 'condas, and transferring the UA just before your systems die, and you are likely looking at a radius of a few thousand LY from point of origin. At least.
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Very true.
Edit: Or for Lave's moon being Raxxla. But I think that might have been in Oolite, or it's non-canon fiction. ;-)
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I dont think you need an UA to watch a video where we have only one purr for the very first time.
And I've never had an UA myself...
For me it is the most important discover after the morse by now, and it could mean that the number of CMDRs close to the UA could change its behaviour.
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Are you guys still hunting at the "BAST"-System for UAs?
Hows the rate on the convoys?
It just sprung to my mind, that "Bast" is the name of an important sidecharacter in a book i recently read,
"The name of the wind" by Patrick Rothfuss.
They look for the fabled "Chandrian" a party rumored to show up when "the fire turns blue".
Seems too far fetched, yet the main char "Kvothe" made it into the game as an NPC
Hows the rate on the convoys?
It just sprung to my mind, that "Bast" is the name of an important sidecharacter in a book i recently read,
"The name of the wind" by Patrick Rothfuss.
They look for the fabled "Chandrian" a party rumored to show up when "the fire turns blue".
Seems too far fetched, yet the main char "Kvothe" made it into the game as an NPC
YES! now that's exactly the type of mission I'm talking about - can you actually take it? (I can't see if your blue is red enough or not) If someone could pretty please take a few of those missions, abandon them and offer the cargo for science, I would be really grateful!
Yes, me too man. If only someone would sacrifice themselves for the good cause and take a mission or two of the above.... (I mean seriously, I've seen missions offering 3 sap 8s for transport....
Well. The thing is, Bob likes his little friends. They travel together everywhere, ok, sometimes Bob pukes on them while in the hold, but they don't really care..... Because they are limpets.
Just grab a collector controller guys. I don't trust my m&k "steady" hands - especially not in a Python. 100% collection rate as long as you're not moving. Everywhere, any time, even when you're drunk or sleepy. Zero chance for failed scooping. Otherwise, why would you go closer than 60m? Ever? That distance can be traveled by the debug cam, completely safe.
Apologies if I'm coming through as a bit harsh, that's not my intention - I guess I leave it as it is for now.
Crazy idea... what about the Alliance Redeemer beam laser? it only does heat damage to ships. Perhaps some heat might get it to "incubate" ?
Ha! I lol'd, this is a great idea! (of course it won't provide a solution for us as mentioned before, bc the solution had to be there in 1.2) Still, this is the kind of thinking we need here.
All right, I'm in. Add me as a friend ingame, commander name is the same - so we can chat when I'm online. Get us 2 other peeps and I'll bring Bob around.
Doh, man, I did and screamed. That photo sound just popped my ears (stupidly maxed out the volume of course so I would hear everything... well... I did... then not for a while)
There's not a single howl-cycle in that video that doesn't have something distracting in it.
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I'm pretty sure they have, I can't find the video at the moment though. No worries, Bob likes dark corners. On it.
@LordZoltan: I love option 2! Any Lore-fiends out there to guide me? (and Bob)
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I'm talking about the second video, the SMALL one (144mb)
I still could not see the big one.
But the second is unique.
That's exactly what I was thinking. Definitely a story thread to keep tabs on for future development.
So... First of all. The story will 'evolve', therefore there IS something we can achieve with the UA.
Second: DB said that we have already seen all the "canisters" to be found, however he expressed it. So finding something else that'd "unlock it" or something that'd be "unlocked by it" is highly unlikely (highly unlikely... highly unlikely... keep scrolling!... highly unlikely...)
Related to the Cerberus thing: if it truly "spreads" the virus, then we should be able to weaken it and make it into a "cure" that way. Doubtful tho'.
Back to the looks of it. Why isn't anybody trying to think of a reason why is the freaking cloud of it blurring things out?? Its a major visual effect imo, that we should consider important.
Wing of 4 people is something we should try out, maybe even more people, two wings in the same Private Group (easier instancing people, why are you so much against it? It's one of the best tools we can use in this search and destroy!... or experiment)
I think the fact that some1 found a UA in solo doesn't rule it out yet, because you can switch instances anytime. Wings of people around the UA is worth checking out. Maybe an octagon formation? Illuminati confirmation?
I dont know how the FSD slaving thing works, but it'd be worth looking into it. Try something like: the slaver making a giant jump while the escorts have low range FSD or something like that.
I am still waiting for this one: Shoot down a capital ship in a WING and then drop a UA near it as it jumps away. If doesn't work out, try it with UA in your hold.
Also capital ships... Dropping one near a capital ship reads out it's name or not? Could answer the question regarding the SS1 (something like... If we deploy it near some debris it might recognize it as SS1, no? couple tens or about a hundred pages back I think)
Idk if Heike tea was confirmed or not to affect things. I assume not, but for the sake of those people persons.
Stop speaking about Mass Effect. The chances are really against it. By really against it, I mean it has less chance that we'll blow up if we put a hafnium near a sap 8 in a safe place.
Last, but not least: CQC. Yes, there might be connection. We may be able to uncover the CQC arena's location with the UA somehow. I know - I know, but still a possibility we should be aware of. It fits most of the things said by the FD employees.
It'd be much appreciated if some1 could summarize a collection of answers to this post.
Thank you for your time!
Second: DB said that we have already seen all the "canisters" to be found, however he expressed it. So finding something else that'd "unlock it" or something that'd be "unlocked by it" is highly unlikely (highly unlikely... highly unlikely... keep scrolling!... highly unlikely...)
Related to the Cerberus thing: if it truly "spreads" the virus, then we should be able to weaken it and make it into a "cure" that way. Doubtful tho'.
Back to the looks of it. Why isn't anybody trying to think of a reason why is the freaking cloud of it blurring things out?? Its a major visual effect imo, that we should consider important.
Wing of 4 people is something we should try out, maybe even more people, two wings in the same Private Group (easier instancing people, why are you so much against it? It's one of the best tools we can use in this search and destroy!... or experiment)
I think the fact that some1 found a UA in solo doesn't rule it out yet, because you can switch instances anytime. Wings of people around the UA is worth checking out. Maybe an octagon formation? Illuminati confirmation?
I dont know how the FSD slaving thing works, but it'd be worth looking into it. Try something like: the slaver making a giant jump while the escorts have low range FSD or something like that.
I am still waiting for this one: Shoot down a capital ship in a WING and then drop a UA near it as it jumps away. If doesn't work out, try it with UA in your hold.
Also capital ships... Dropping one near a capital ship reads out it's name or not? Could answer the question regarding the SS1 (something like... If we deploy it near some debris it might recognize it as SS1, no? couple tens or about a hundred pages back I think)
Idk if Heike tea was confirmed or not to affect things. I assume not, but for the sake of those people persons.
Stop speaking about Mass Effect. The chances are really against it. By really against it, I mean it has less chance that we'll blow up if we put a hafnium near a sap 8 in a safe place.
Last, but not least: CQC. Yes, there might be connection. We may be able to uncover the CQC arena's location with the UA somehow. I know - I know, but still a possibility we should be aware of. It fits most of the things said by the FD employees.
It'd be much appreciated if some1 could summarize a collection of answers to this post.
Thank you for your time!
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Glad you liked it
in reality I did put some thought into it because let's face it from FFE lore the AIS is the only group that had a real working relationship with the Thargoids. If anyone has an ability to prod them along in a non destructive way it should be them. Also I think we are making the assumption that the UA's mystery was an open and shut case all within the confines of 1.2. So far we (that I am aware of) we don't have any concrete evidence that the solution did stem out of 1.2. For all that we know it was introduced at a later time... or worse it hasn't yet.Maybe I said that wrong a bit... I meant all types of canisters so there is no other canister for it to interact with... It was in one of those Q&A things... He even mentioned that not all are understood or something. Gosh it's a bit late, hard to say things properly. Sorry. Imma look for it.
Edit: Brett said it, my bad:
"Are there items in game that the community hasn't found yet?
I don’t think so, however they have not unravelled the mysteries surrounding them all yet, and there will be evolutions coming in the CQC update and beyond."
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there's a few rare commodities that are in the game that haven't been seen yet. The systems they should be in bans them, for now
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Absolutely right. Fwiw, if it's a location-based thing like this, then I don't think it's going to be a needle-in-a-haystack-kind of search for any of these ideas.
It'd have to be somewhere that has some logical, deductible connection, I think, because for the reasons you outline very well - it would be as near an impossible task as is possible to get!
Yes, I was just thinking this. I was reverse engineering the reasoning behind designing the UA to expire if left outside too long and to rot your ship. It has to be to make it tricky to get and tricky to hold on to for long.
Yep, I think we're supposed to use the wings mechanic.
Does any one have a sap 8 core container they would kindly donate to me?
Unfortunately my sap8 which was kindly donated to me and was up for grabs until a few days ago has now demised
trying out dropping near a star to see if heat had an effect, (its demise was a scooping error rather than the heat i think)
Tests i did do if it helps rule anything out are:
Dropping resonator separators and sap together
trying prospector drone on sap ,(dont know if prospector has been tried on UA)
tried fuel transfer drone
Tried the the start notes of discovery scanner (must check if they are random or the same sequence every time) to see if it was a Sound Activated something or other.
Yet we have nothing to link a UA to a location other than our own (sometimes space mad) theories. If we assume (again) there are no strong connections with SS1/Antares or plague, and rule out all those systems, that just leaves us with the usual, known from the (new or old) lore, alien or Thargoid-related systems - most of which we have hit with a UA already, except for New California and Junior.
Is there such a system we have missed? Or, assuming we have not missed the system in question, do we need to go back to those systems and just do an advanced scan with UA as cargo, and look for anomalies. If none are found, then we go through each of those systems and bring the UA to a close proximity of every celestial body in each system, drop it and see what it says?
Any UA holders interested in trying this out at one of the usual places?
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