I get SAP 8 transport missions all the time. I have three containers at the moment. Delivery mission expires in 55 minutes so shout if you want them.
Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn
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I doooooo... And Bob does wants them too, just doesn't know it yet. I'm in Bast, Mobius. Friend me up.
Anyhow, in the meantime, Bob traveled to the Dark Side. http://youtu.be/W4kR_dU604g
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Exactly. That's why I said option 2 - if someone with more lore-knowledge can point out currently missing systems that had significant role, with approximate locations, I'm game. Bob too.
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Hi guys! I'm still working on the wonderful samples given by Ratking15 and Zenith on the UA with SAP8, Painite and Hafnium. I'd like to ask if anybody could record audio samples of the sounds produced by the SAP8, Painite and Hafnium please? Would it be possible?
Has anyone tried gathering 8 SAP8 containers and dropping them near the UA? One for each of the "cargo pods" attached to the thing? I'm sure it's been tried, it just seems like an obvious thing if the 8 in SAP8 actually meant something.
That's what comes of only having seen still pictures of the thing.
There are a lot of planets that were in Elite or FE2 or FFE that are not in ED - I don't think there is a complete list of these "missing" systems anywhere, they only have x and y coordinates anyways, and I am sure they are not all "dark systems". Dark systems were originally planned but never implemented (at least at launch). And if they did exist, as we do not know their coordinates, we can't find them or jump to them. How would you scan for one? From an adjacent system based on the x and y coordinates if we knew them? How would it be discovered?
When I used the term "missing systems" above, I meant a known-obvious-formerly-associated-with-aliens-in-the-lore system, like Polaris or Soontill or the like, that is actually already on the map, but we have somehow missed the possible association between it and the UA, or need to do the more in-depth sort of scanning that Zoltan describes. If there are none of these, that leaves us with the usual suspects - Polaris, Soontill, Quy/Quiness, Merlin, Peregrina, and maybe a few others if we start including known ammonia-atmosphere worlds.
Perhaps we are looking for "dark worlds", not "dark systems" also - i.e. a hidden planet or hidden celestial body in a known system.
Edit: And of course it is possible that we have missed one of these known-obvious-formerly-associated-with-aliens-in-the-lore systems with our UA tests, which was my other reference to missing a system. Known Unknowns and Unknown Unknowns and all that.
Edit 2: Soontill was originally intended to be a dark system, hidden also by the name Kumbaya also IIRC in Out of the Darkness, yet both of these systems were in ED at launch and visible.
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Well, that would certainly give a full test to whether the thing could cause a mis-jump after dealing a certain amount of damage to the host ship.
That's a theory I still like, for the following reasons:
- The convoy talks about how it's systems are going haywire.
- The potential tie in with Halsey's disappearance
- Sirius Corp's Antares incident
- The virus given to the Thargoids caused their bio-mechanical hyperdrives to not work (not eradicating them, just screwing up their travel)
- In Elite: Reclamation mis-jumps are caused by attempting hyperspace jumps when your ship is damaged (I know, I know. Drew's connection isn't likely, but he was going off the early game design)
- Misjumps and dark space were part of the original game design, and there's no telling how far the development went
- it would be cool
I can imagine development could have progressed substantially and quietly, after all Horizons was practically put together right under our noses while we were distracted by "minor" things like wings and powerplay. This isn't speculation either, part of the gamescon discussion seems to indicate Horizons is practically in need of some graphics work but for the most part is already there so who knows what else they got boiling in their pots?
It looks like there are two sets of four pods, there are actually three sets of four. Lots of us made that mistake some time ago until someone posted a picture or video from an angle that showed all 12, at which point a whole bunch of us who had never had a UA went "Dooh!"
I'm popping in again, and not of how the wiki page should be! 
So having looked over the wiki, I've not seen anything in the sense of having 12 players extremely close to the UA. As previously suggested it might be that it behaves different when there is more ships around than if there is only one. If having a full wing will change how it behaves even more, maybe this is an indication that 12 players will have the full effect.
Reasoning behind it being that each pod might affect each ship in the vicinity somehow and cause you to be the host of something.
There was a mention of having 12 SAP containers, which I'm guessing has not been possible as of yet, is there any progress of this?
So having looked over the wiki, I've not seen anything in the sense of having 12 players extremely close to the UA. As previously suggested it might be that it behaves different when there is more ships around than if there is only one. If having a full wing will change how it behaves even more, maybe this is an indication that 12 players will have the full effect.
Reasoning behind it being that each pod might affect each ship in the vicinity somehow and cause you to be the host of something.
There was a mention of having 12 SAP containers, which I'm guessing has not been possible as of yet, is there any progress of this?
Has anyone looked at Bunda or Nuenets? Their lore seems to indicate something suspicious.
Bunda: "...the locals are said to be friendly, but passers through reported a larger than usual number of ships patrolling the system that dont belong to the systems security fleet."
and Nuenets: ".....the locals aren't particualrily friendly and seem to be harbouring a dark secret."
I saw a few Hafnium convoys near these systems, and they are both near the Founder's World and the Dark Wheel. I've seen a lot of missions mentioning the Dark Wheel moving Sap-8s too...
IIRC they're linked to the UA?
Bunda: "...the locals are said to be friendly, but passers through reported a larger than usual number of ships patrolling the system that dont belong to the systems security fleet."
and Nuenets: ".....the locals aren't particualrily friendly and seem to be harbouring a dark secret."
I saw a few Hafnium convoys near these systems, and they are both near the Founder's World and the Dark Wheel. I've seen a lot of missions mentioning the Dark Wheel moving Sap-8s too...
IIRC they're linked to the UA?
What about not knowing what it is? Transport asks if the escort knows what they carry? A couple of people already mentioned that maybe the UA might not be the big thing. Of course this may be a dead end, but you never know when you are next to a debris field in super cruise either! (I think this didnt make sense, but anyways...) Why isn't Escort answering... even something like: "No, we do not. Escort out." We should team up once and some people should follow the other wakes, while the others get the UA.
I'm popping in again, and not of how the wiki page should be!
So having looked over the wiki, I've not seen anything in the sense of having 12 players extremely close to the UA. As previously suggested it might be that it behaves different when there is more ships around than if there is only one. If having a full wing will change how it behaves even more, maybe this is an indication that 12 players will have the full effect.
Reasoning behind it being that each pod might affect each ship in the vicinity somehow and cause you to be the host of something.
There was a mention of having 12 SAP containers, which I'm guessing has not been possible as of yet, is there any progress of this?
By the glorious donation of Commander Furrycat I am now happy to report that Bob is the proud cargo-bay-mate of 3 pieces of SAP 8 containers. I won't let him get too comfy.
I'll upload some vids as they come.
Edit: CMDR Furrycat got us 4 more SAP 8 containers, and some Heike tea for those who believe a connection. Amazing help right there! Thanks! Testing will commence.
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I'm still waiting for my Timocani Tinfoil Hat, so in the meantime I'll put on one I made myself.
In probably reading too much into the "Where's Walden Now?" Galnet article, but here goes.
It's clearly setting the stage for planetary landing, but two words jump out as out of place.
Primes, and factors. Prefect could be a misspelling of perfect, and all of those are types of numbers.
The numbers. 36 and 4 are also mentioned. The prime factors for 4 are 2 and 2. The prime factors for 36 are 2, 2, 3 and 3.
Is there any correlation to the UAs? Who knows?
In probably reading too much into the "Where's Walden Now?" Galnet article, but here goes.
It's clearly setting the stage for planetary landing, but two words jump out as out of place.
Primes, and factors. Prefect could be a misspelling of perfect, and all of those are types of numbers.
The numbers. 36 and 4 are also mentioned. The prime factors for 4 are 2 and 2. The prime factors for 36 are 2, 2, 3 and 3.
Is there any correlation to the UAs? Who knows?
I'm still waiting for my Timocani Tinfoil Hat, so in the meantime I'll put on one I made myself.
In probably reading too much into the "Where's Walden Now?" Galnet article, but here goes.
It's clearly setting the stage for planetary landing, but two words jump out as out of place.
Primes, and factors. Prefect could be a misspelling of perfect, and all of those are types of numbers.
The numbers. 36 and 4 are also mentioned. The prime factors for 4 are 2 and 2. The prime factors for 36 are 2, 2, 3 and 3.
Is there any correlation to the UAs? Who knows?
Well done! Welcome to the club, help yourself to the biscuits.
I thought prime numbers too. There are unknown noise sequences of 3 and 5. I'm not sure if all UAs have the same sounds or if you need to build up a sequence.. So maybe we're looking for a 1 and/or a 7, 11 etc.I'm still waiting for my Timocani Tinfoil Hat, so in the meantime I'll put on one I made myself.
In probably reading too much into the "Where's Walden Now?" Galnet article, but here goes.
It's clearly setting the stage for planetary landing, but two words jump out as out of place.
Primes, and factors. Prefect could be a misspelling of perfect, and all of those are types of numbers.
The numbers. 36 and 4 are also mentioned. The prime factors for 4 are 2 and 2. The prime factors for 36 are 2, 2, 3 and 3.
Is there any correlation to the UAs? Who knows?
Didn't consider factors though.
As an aside, I have some Painite sitting in my boat if anyone needs it for testing. Probably best to PM me, this thread is impossible to follow.
No, it's not the first time in months. During last Friday's big group jump-test, I recorded the UA with no purrs - https://youtu.be/ijfS799tu48?t=2m39s
That was out at 300m, fly in to <100m, the purrs & BG sound are back. It's a function of distance from the UA (& perhaps the number of sound emitters in a given distance).
Phew, had to change that so I could actually read it. You may want to check your font colour, it does not work particularly well with the standard black forum pages.
Where did you find this lore? Or do you mean these are the current in-game descriptions for these systems on the Galaxy Map? There are no entries for either system in the FFE or FE2 Gazetteers FWIW, nor do they appear in the FFE missions or journals that I can see. If that is what it says on the Galaxy Map at the moment I would say they are both definitely worth checking out, nice find. We know from Out of the Darkness that:
there are other Dark Wheel/CIEP bases out there other than the presumed destroyed base at Soontill (which was originally Thargoid), perhaps as many as eight.
Edit: There are likely a few INRA bases floating around too.
Edit: There are likely a few INRA bases floating around too.
In the same vein, it would be worth checking out Soontill in some detail with a UA in the hold/adjacent to the planet to see if it reveals what I mention above, or anything else.
Edit: Hmm, another random thought re obvious systems we may have missed. We have taken a UA to Shinrarta Dezhra, but we have not sold one there. It is the only place that we know of where The Dark Wheel minor faction exists, no? I know they don't control a station (at least last time I looked), but might be worth trying to sell one there or dock at Jameson Memorial with it in the hold and see if any mission comes up?
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