Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[I and I Redeye]

If you spend some time and read the last 100-300 pages, you'll realize I already suggested taking down a Capital class ship by taking out it's heat things, to force it to jump. If a UA is in the hold of a nearby player or out near the ship, it might trigger something (what I'm expecting optimistically is that a "wake" will be left there and it could be followed or something like that).

27 MAY 3301

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“...Pre-jump checks? Normal. Engine power? Normal. Our drives were slaved to Starship One, as is normal. The entry to hyperspace seemed normal at first, ... ”

There is merit in what you say except we can't slave to the ship. I don't see any wakes on the vids I've watched.

I can't memorize hundreds of pages or keep up with multiple theories so I have to choose which one's to follow and the thread fills so quickly.
Come back after some research and then there is 5 more pages, lol.

I'll leave you guys to it, if I find anything I'll let you know.

 

[Cmdr Delmonte[VR]]

27 MAY 3301

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“...Pre-jump checks? Normal. Engine power? Normal. Our drives were slaved to Starship One, as is normal. The entry to hyperspace seemed normal at first, ... ”

There is merit in what you say except we can't slave to the ship. I don't see any wakes on the vids I've watched.

I can't memorize hundreds of pages or keep up with multiple theories so I have to choose which one's to follow and the thread fills so quickly.
Come back after some research and then there is 5 more pages, lol.

I'll leave you guys to it, if I find anything I'll let you know.

you CAN slave your jump drive to another ship in a wing though ! How about a UA holder jumps with the other 3 in the wing locked onto them whist in super cruise. You should follow the holders wake, or something odd may happen ??

 

[Tallsword]

27 MAY 3301

Federal Search Efforts Continue


“...Pre-jump checks? Normal. Engine power? Normal. Our drives were slaved to Starship One, as is normal. The entry to hyperspace seemed normal at first, ... ”

There is merit in what you say except we can't slave to the ship. I don't see any wakes on the vids I've watched.

I can't memorize hundreds of pages or keep up with multiple theories so I have to choose which one's to follow and the thread fills so quickly.
Come back after some research and then there is 5 more pages, lol.

I'll leave you guys to it, if I find anything I'll let you know.

Point 1:
The escorts were dropped out when they were slaved. We dont want to drop out like them, we want to follow them.

Point 2:
There are no wakes. The UA might reveal them.

Point 3:
This is non-destructive. A Wing of 4 jumps in, one with the UA. 3 join the opposing faction start taking care of the capital ship. Once nearly down, the UA carrier joins into the fray as well. Danger? Minimal. UA destroyed? No, even if transport dies, the escort can scoop it up before it expires. I also suggested dropping it out before it jumps away. Again same circumstances. Except the transport doesn't even have to join the faction.

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you CAN slave your jump drive to another ship in a wing though ! How about a UA holder jumps with the other 3 in the wing locked onto them whist in super cruise. You should follow the holders wake, or something odd may happen ??

I suggested a few pages back this as well. Got no replies to it.
Here's a reply to yours.

 

[rizal72]

you CAN slave your jump drive to another ship in a wing though ! How about a UA holder jumps with the other 3 in the wing locked onto them whist in super cruise. You should follow the holders wake, or something odd may happen ??

Wing navlock and slaving tests have already been done.

 

[Han_Zen]

Is it sad that I can tell just from the name that Liaququ is a procedurally generated system in FFE? Yeah, it is sad.

FFE assigned system names to procedurally generated systems using three syllables from a set of only 32 possibilities. It picked the syllables using a pretty simple algorithm based on the sector coordinates and the system number within the sector.

This is true but when the FE2 and FFE lore was writen the galaxy was allready created.
I have not checked, but I think most other systems from the lore has been included manually in the ED galaxy.

Ayethi, is another lore connected procedurally generated system that is pressent in ED.

The FE2 Gazzetter is sort of a historical document. I think most of it is included in FFE.

http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/frontier/books/gazetteer/

Liaququ is part of the Gazetteer, the FE2 book and the FFE story line.

 

[Derthek]

I wonder if the plague was a hint that went right over our heads completely and the devs gave up and cured it with tea.

 

[Han_Zen]

Thargoids have 3 digits per limb and apparently use base-12.

Redo plz?

They use base-6

 

[Ninjahat]

I wonder if the plague was a hint that went right over our heads completely and the devs gave up and cured it with tea.

That deserves a LOL :-D

 

[Dommarraa]

I wonder if the plague was a hint that went right over our heads completely and the devs gave up and cured it with tea.

Dont think so. We had been arguing over Nimoy/Plague Cure for many days and were about to try them when the tea thing dropped in. Would have been uncharacteristically impatiant of them to just give up on us so close to the goal. Plus, if so, what is its continued missing use/information now (Gamescon mention) ?

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Just to make a general comment on all this...

The discussion has so far gone over multiple tens of thousands of posts, weve hit the thread limit multiple times on this topic and it looks like were about to hit it again.
Virtually every theory has been suggested, I'm not trying to suppress discussion but the thing is we are not short on theories, we have literally hundreds of them with new variations being added every day. =(
What we are short on is practical experiments that would help prove or disprove a theory, at this point we really need evidence or ways to prove things, not theories.
I'm not trying single people out but for example saying "my theory is that there could be a link to witchspace". Well great, but so what? People have said that over and over but it does progress things in any way.
Now a practical experiment we could perform that would help prove or disprove that theory is another thing entirely.

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[b_laiskiainen]

They use base-6

This is literally the first time I've read anyone claim base-6.

Consensus seems to be on 12: 4 limbs for manipulation with 3 digits each.

 

[cyberus]

HI.

I beleave if there any event coupled to the UA it is supose to happend in exact location where you have found......otherwise if you scoop it and relocate the triger wont happend.

My other questin as well if someone tryed looking difrently at Michaels Brooks comment about listening to them? I beleave he probably ment not the sound the UA produce but "what it trying to say" Do any of you tryed to start voice communication with? If it possable? Meaby it will give audio feedback back in some kind of massage.

Also very rare idea is about to try create an wing with it if posable and slave the drives with?

I beleave that if there is an event coupled to the UA it will be only trigered in the finding location (SSS) or otherwise it is just an item.

If if the next CMDR who find the thing try the following steps first before scooping it:

1) Try to start VOICE communication with the UA if it possable, to see if there any audio feedback will be given back by UA.... some kind of audio transmition.
2) Try if possable create an WING with and slave the drives with the UA..... meaby it will trigger the jump to some place yuo dont want to be in .

3) This one can be preformed as well..... disable all power systems and go in silient runing to see if anything happence.

Remember!!!! I beleave that all this must be performed in exact same istance the UA was found otherwise i expect there will be no trigger to an event if there any at all.

Good luck commanders!

 

[Aeos]

I wonder if the plague was a hint that went right over our heads completely and the devs gave up and cured it with tea.

I thought this too, and is why I had the idea about what I posted last night, since that plague made me look at the other types of plagues in the past.

 

[dumbo]

They use base-6

I can't see any way to get that into base-6.

However, it could certainly be base-12 (the mayan/aztec system is base-20 by using up to 4 lines, using 3 lines with a max of 3 dots would give 12).

If you grouped those into sets of 3 (giving 3 sets of 3) and then converted to decimal - AFAICT it would give one of these (top-down or bottom-up):
900, 471, 1055
1627, 471, 42
[that's assuming 4 dots=zero]

 

[Derthek]

Dont think so. We had been arguing over Nimoy/Plague Cure for many days and were about to try them when the tea thing dropped in. Would have been uncharacteristically impatiant of them to just give up on us so close to the goal. Plus, if so, what is its continued missing use/information now (Gamescon mention) ?

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Yeah I don't think so either. But curing a deadly plague with tea seems like they either had a change in story direction, or they're writing a lame story.

Either way... as they say, sequels are hardly ever better than the original, and this mystery is beginning to wear thin for me in the second thread.

I'm starting to wonder if I will be around for the third installment I see a lot of new faces here, especially ones from reddit. Looks like that reddit thing got some new eyes on the case.

As for mine, they're old and tired.

 

[Arcanonn]

Just to make a general comment on all this...

The discussion has so far gone over multiple tens of thousands of posts, weve hit the thread limit multiple times on this topic and it looks like were about to hit it again.

Virtually every theory has been suggested, I'm not trying to suppress discussion but the thing is we are not short on theories, we have literally hundreds of them with new variations being added every day. =(

What we are short on is practical experiments that would help prove or disprove a theory, at this point we really need evidence or ways to prove things, not theories.

I'm not trying single people out but for example saying "my theory is that there could be a link to witchspace". Well great, but so what? People have said that over and over but it does progress things in any way.

Now a practical experiment we could perform that would help prove or disprove that theory is another thing entirely.

We did get better at this for a while, a couple of CMDRs getting PM's/Wiki requests and working through them to rule things out.................Things have indeed slipped back into the old headless chicken ways a bit.

We need more Biscuit Barrel ops, More UA's and more CMDR's with time and who are methodical enough to sift through the experiment requests and weed out duplications/already tried ideas etc.

I don't have enough time on my hands to co-ordinate, among other thing I was trying to organise The Cannon a bit to this end.....Even that is proving beyond me the last few days between work and kids.

And yes the ideas are like a tidal wave, I leave the thread for a few hours come back and there is a ton of reading to do!

 

[Popov Le Magnifique]

Damn I can't rep you, gotta spread the love to other people before apparently...Anyway, I couldn't agree more with Bitstorm, we've got to focus on practical experiments and when it's been disproved, then we can theorize more. IMO, we gotta deal with the "4 guys close to the UA" experiment first (if you could try and place your power plant as close to the UA as possible, that'd be great. "Power surge").

I'm not criticizing anybody, hell I've been throwing out ideas since I've started posting on that thread, but we need to reproduce experiments that have helped us move forward (I think going from five purrs to three, then two and one is moving forward haha).

 

[Sigon]

I wonder if the plague was a hint that went right over our heads completely and the devs gave up and cured it with tea.

Hey, the devs are british. They cure everything with tea.

 

[b_laiskiainen]

I can't see any way to get that into base-6.

However, it could certainly be base-12 (the mayan/aztec system is base-20 by using up to 4 lines, using 3 lines with a max of 3 dots would give 12).

If you grouped those into sets of 3 (giving 3 sets of 3) and then converted to decimal - AFAICT it would give one of these (top-down or bottom-up):
900, 471, 1055
1627, 471, 42
[that's assuming 4 dots=zero]

Did I break my tinfoil hat?

Coordinates?

 

[dumbo]

Did I break my tinfoil hat?
Coordinates?

That's somewhat artificially made to look like co-ordinates. You can logically interpret it as anything consisting of 9 'psuedo-mayan digits'. I just chose to split it into 3 as that would fit a coordinate system.

 

[Cmdr Delmonte[VR]]

We did get better at this for a while, a couple of CMDRs getting PM's/Wiki requests and working through them to rule things out.................Things have indeed slipped back into the old headless chicken ways a bit.

We need more Biscuit Barrel ops, More UA's and more CMDR's with time and who are methodical enough to sift through the experiment requests and weed out duplications/already tried ideas etc.

I don't have enough time on my hands to co-ordinate, among other thing I was trying to organise The Cannon a bit to this end.....Even that is proving beyond me the last few days between work and kids.

And yes the ideas are like a tidal wave, I leave the thread for a few hours come back and there is a ton of reading to do!

After discussion with Sub Cmd Outspan she is happy to take on either editing the Wiki to keep track of the experiments or set up a shared spread sheet ?
Does anyone second this idea ? She loves to organise, works from home and can spare more time than most, (Although I expect my tea to be more Microwave than home cooked if she gets involved ) oh and I have just been informed tonight tea is going to be Chinese so we can get out UA hunting for 7:30 in Timocani !