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And I agree with Mouse. If I want to attack another player unprovoked, I want to be able to do so. I just want it to have consequences.
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This. +1.And I agree with Mouse. If I want to attack another player unprovoked, I want to be able to do so. I just want it to have consequences.
And I agree with Mouse. If I want to attack another player unprovoked, I want to be able to do so. I just want it to have consequences.
In open, not open PVE if they give us the mode ^,^
Which brings us back to this.. for consequences ideas ^,^
if someone has a bounty above a certain amount (say $5000) than he can't sell his ship, modules, or even re-arm/repair in a civilized sector. He can't dock in stations only outposts, and if his ship is too big.. he's in trouble. BUT.. if he can get to a station that is controlled by pirates then he can.. though the price would probably be higher than normal to get repaired. Maybe even have station personnel who can take care of their bounty for a hefty cut allowing him access back into civilized sectors.
I mean if someone wants to play as a pirate, lets make it at least partly realistic.
I don't understand being "hostile" to a system and the station allowing me to dock and fully repair, rearm and everything.
That would remove piracy and bounty hunting as 2 of the options FD sold this game on, whilst they never stated either of the roles have to include other players the outcry would be noticeable, Crap did you just use a Jedi mind trick on me I am staring to agree with you on that, they never said it would be PVP, and as you rightly say in PP you get no bonus for CMDR's so they only delay you.
OK I have recovered, add a guild mode, a PVE mode and keep open as it is, add them just like groups, all that's needed is to kick the odd PK'r out of PVE and job done, FD gave choices to us all right back at KS, more choices would be good.
(not aimed at you) Blah blah diluting the population etc lol, if people don't want to play in open they won't, the groups are already selected in the start menu, all I would ask is they are in the main menu with the title "open PVE" and one person from FD spends an hour a day moderating reports. That and a tick box that says "I agree if I attack a CMDR in PVE mode FD will fine me half of my total wealth, and I agree to be banned from PVE mode for life, I will not be able to undock / KOS all authority's until the debt is paid"
I think a PVE & Guilds only group in the menu could work well, it lets everyone pick their environment on a session by session basis and highlights to the > 90% of ED owners that don't read the forums that they have a choice.
Here's a thought, just put PVE in the menu and link it to Mobius group, actually FD might need to provide him with an assistant with a resilient mouse until they add a bit more support for groups. For a PVE group to be around for almost a year (31/08/14) https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362&highlight=mobius and kick half a dozen people is amazing, FD could add a 100 hour "real time shadow ban" too if they wanted to really enforce it. Wanna grief again, buy another copy!
I've read through more than a few CVs in my time but that beggars belief! Almost makes me feel glad I'm as good as retired now.
that could be the subscription fee some say they wouldn't mind paying.. get your jollies from griefing, by a new copy. Rinse and repeat and FD gets more money
If FD said that anyone abusing the PVE mode would be banned from PVE, and the victim reimbursed down to the last bounty voucher or scan I would be fine with it, I could deal with the odd one off attacks if they had proper consequences, it would not take many "I got an email telling me I am banned for griefing" posts to stop griefing (and yes invading a PVE group to attack PVE players is griefing).
I asked the original question to Mobius months ago about how many CMDR's he had to kick, IIRC he said about 6 (in ~ 9 months, 2 were CODE kidiots, and I think 1 or 2 were genuine mistakes and readmitted after evaluation).
FD have the ability to save Mobius from RSI, and a big ban hammer too. We will see in time I am sure.
For me, a PVE mode, should not allow friendly fire, or ramming. If all you want is open with a gentleman's agreement, why bother? That's what groups are for.
As for the "rules" you recommend, how can someone pay "the debt" if they can't undock to earn money?
Thanks, I will be evaluating Bacon tomorrow around 10 am but I don't think they have "Cubeo Razorback Bacon", I am sure you will excuse me if I don't ask, I have only been there once before.
I will take SOL Bacon for now, with an egg and proper ketchup.
If FD asked for people to volunteer from PVE mode to be instanced with new accounts started by people previously banned, that rejoin to invade the PVE mode I would volunteer to be instanced with 1 in 100 of them. If they want to buy an account for 1 PK and get shadow banned let them, if I suffer no loss and FD make more cash its all good. I would even thank them for their donation to making our game better for all.
Damn we should have a list of all Bacon stations in the OP, I feel the need to eat a Bacon sandwich whilst docked at each one now. Damn it from now on I will refer to this thread as the "hungry place", and to the person who posted the 5 minute cake, that's just bad
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how is it a "gentlemen's agreement" if there will be banning, and punishment for actions?
as for "Debt" if someone can't get into stations because they are wanted they need to flee to pirate space, there they can pay the debt though it may be a bit steep for them. I mean the middle man wants a cut too
gag uh! *stuffs finger down throat* ketchup nuuuuuuuuuuuu the only way to eat eggs is with fresh salsa.
Now mind, I put mustard on chips/fries and eat peanut butter & olive sandwiches...
Damn we should have a list of all Bacon stations in the OP, I feel the need to eat a Bacon sandwich whilst docked at each one now. Damn it from now on I will refer to this thread as the "hungry place", and to the person who posted the 5 minute cake, that's just bad
The Bacon Cats have several central locations to serve you. So far, it's
1. Gleise 868 - Bacon Port
2. Carnoeck - Bacon City
3. Nusakan - Bacon City
if anyone finds more, please send them to the Bacon Cats thread.
Bacon.. can eat that with anything.. makes salads fantastic. Ketchup.. only with hashbrowns.. and that is if there isn't any yoke on the plate.
On the way from Yakabugai to Sol when I first got the permit, I came across a Swigert Station... That could be a backup?
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LOL! I must admit, looking back at my old CVs (I keep a copy of all of them even after I update) under the skills section of my 1st CV I did have "ability to pour the perfect pint of beer!"
(I had been working in a pub for 12 months).
At the time it seemed a valid skill to have on ones CV, but considering I was applying for jobs in research laboratories, looking back I am thinking not so much
(I did get my 1st "proper" job with it on however)
totally OT for this thread however just yesterday I applied for another job. It is terrifying!. I am not actually sure if I want to get an interview or not. The coward in me (it must be linked to me playing in solo and private groups in elite***
) thinks, well i have applied for it now, so if i do not get an interview at least my conscience is clear.***see how i cunningly got back on topic
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Because you are still depending on players agreeing to not pk. You are not preventing it. Penalties/punishment do not stop bad behavior, if it did, the world would be a much safer place.
So for some of those who decided to switch to solo due to an unpleasant experience in open, PVE open would not be an option, since solo mode would still be the only way to ensure the unpleasantness doesn't happen again.
Robert Maynard
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If the consequences for a player who was on the receiving end of PvP in Open-PvE mode were to be reduced to zero (i.e. full replacement of ship and cargo, mission timers extended; no loss of exploration data, bounty vouchers, etc) then some players in Solo might consider playing in an Open-PvE mode. The attacker would, naturally, be kicked from the mode for a period of time (possibly indefinitely).
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