UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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Popov Le Magnifique

Popov Le Magnifique
Nice, one of the voyager probes was found again. Why didn't they tell us it hadn't disappeared? ...

Anyway, logging on for a bit see if I get lucky with a SSS. Damn I'm getting tired with the lack of help from FD...
 

Rauminen

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CMDR Runcible Shaw said:
It's interesting, but it seems to rely on a timing signal and there doesn't seem to be such a signal in the audio itself.
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Lurk off. Sorry if my reply comes in after the whole thing is solved ;) still catching up.

So .... Can someone measure the exact time between the purrs? If it is the same within a sequence, that is your timer right there.

Remember the whole thing about BPSK, and specifically Manchester encoding, that it sends both the timer and the data in a single signal.

Also, on a side note, there IS a timer at 1500 Hz, but I'm leaning towards static background sound tbh. Although it dies off as the UA loses integrity, so... Undecided.
 
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mrtree

mrtree
Panzertard said:
The empty SSS + wakes could indcate that you're sharing an island, and you've seen tha classical 'nobody is there' - the island owners may have the same issue.
It's a classical connection issue.

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Found VOYAGER 2!!!!
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WELL DONE, CMDR! The biggest ASCII salute I can give you, o7!
 

Popov Le Magnifique

Popov Le Magnifique
I dunno, bitstorm probably studied the timing as well, the guy now seems to know a lot about the purrs and their behaviour, and it seems to me that the set of rules, apart from "no more than 2 high/low purrs in a row", is pretty random.

I'm getting a bit desperate tbh, and I want to stick to the simplest explanation after having analysed the purrs a little bit myself: it's an alien nav beacon. Where do we go from there? We either record it till we find something interesting, or we scoop it and we sell it in a specific place. But IMO, studying the purrs won't lead us anywhere. I'm almost certain I'm wrong when I write that, but I'm getting tired of overanalysing the thing. Not saying you should stop though, I want you to prove me wrong! ; )
 
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mrtree

mrtree
Derthek said:
Branch has already done all the good tests any way :D
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I call . Nothing I've done has found any answers & evidently I'm too dense to find the Voyagers after more than 3 tries. :/

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The Dark Wheel said:
The Morse Message of 1962 saw Russia transmit a Morse code message at Venus encoding messages like Peace and Lenin (in Russian of course). One such message was directed at HD 131336 (Just over 1000 LY from Sol - 1962 then, 3301 now). Maybe it is possible that these are an attempt at first (ok... second) contact from an alien species that received this message; emitting the names of nearby celestial bodies so we recognize that they understood us.
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Since I'm evidently such a baby about trying long-distance hops, I'd be willing to take this on. I'll see if I can find someone to wing up with & go see if there's anything to the system. I was playing around with the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_interstellar_radio_messages last night (recordings at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLr4nvzYqVcAong6BAQ1p1b3bz9mK1uWhM, but somehow I missed this one.

tl;dr is that all the systems in that Wikipedia list (save Polaris & now HD 131336) are in the bubble & I didn't see much of anything.
 
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Ecco

Ecco
I now have 2 UAs in my hold. Please let me know if you need me to help with experiments. In the meantime i will be doing outward spirals from Key systems looking for other probes or space oddities...
 

Derthek

Derthek
mrtree said:
I call . Nothing I've done has found any answers & evidently I'm too dense to find the Voyagers after more than 3 tries. :/
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Hey now, the Dev update just came out this morning, and we find voyagers now? Seems suspicious, I'd bet they were missing until now.

And as for the test, if you have a better test I'm all ears ;)
 

Szyslak22

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Panzertard said:
Basicly as described above. The old video shows the pilot starting from Sol, so the general direction can be observed.
So when you are using the 'dot' on your hud, you can pinpoint the direction from the start of the video.
Then enjoy the trip, ~30 mins or so.

Next start flying in random 90 degree turns, but make sure you stay within the distance - you just narrow down the search this way.
And then hope for luck.
Mine took about 2 hours.

I'll be back online tomorrow, in the Mobious private group - sharing the location with Wing-request on demand.
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Apparently I'm not allowed to rep you again, but terrific work commander! Fine deductive reasoning and perseverance!

mrtree said:
I call . Nothing I've done has found any answers & evidently I'm too dense to find the Voyagers after more than 3 tries. :/
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But the shear volume is truly, truly impressive. I was bummed when I saw you bump the UA in the test on Ratking's stream, as it seamed extremely unjust in a karmic sense. Glad you have one in the hold once again.

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Derthek said:
Hey now, the Dev update just came out this morning, and we find voyagers now? Seems suspicious, I'd bet they were missing until now.
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:S But they didn't change anything with the game today, it was just a discussion on things they plan to implement. I think the unintended consequence of the 1000 ls supercruise sensor range is more likely.
 

mrtree

mrtree
Derthek said:
Hey now, the Dev update just came out this morning, and we find voyagers now? Seems suspicious, I'd bet they were missing until now.

And as for the test, if you have a better test I'm all ears ;)
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Sorry, wasn't calling on the test. Apologies if I gave that impression. The test itself is a good one, if only to eliminate that possibility.

The Dev update killed a lot of my hopes/pet theories, actually. Maybe I'm pulling a Canonn & reading into it too much, but I read it the following ways:

1. Big stories - Sounds like the Cerberus plague really is cured & it really was the tea. Maybe the UA causes it, but we should be seeing the spread from all the new CMDRs & new UAs.
2. Treasure hunts - It sounds like these are being implemented/added in 1.4. While that sounds good to me, it means the UA likely isn't a treasure hunt (or maybe it's a handcoded one).
3. Finding stuff in deep space - Also exciting, but if the Voyagers are any indication, I can guarantee I won't be finding any. :/ And if there's anything like this as the solution for the UA right now, it'll be almost blind luck to stumble upon it.

<rant>
So, if those are true, the UA isn't a treasure hunt, it didn't cause or cure the plague, there's no special deep-space destination. We don't even have a story or narrative *for* the Unknown Artefact. We can't find any in-game lore that references anything similar (beyond vague OH NOES A-LEE-UMS!), there doesn't seem to be any official novel tie-ins & none of the F:FE links have panned out thus far. AND we're both close yet overthinking it.

So it's cargo. What do we do with cargo? We scoop it, buy it, sell it & deliver it. And as a collective, we've basically only managed the first one. Huzzah.
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I'm going to stop tilting on the forums & continue toward HD 131336 with mouth closed & eyes/ears open.
 

Topgear201

Topgear201
Hey all I have a quick question if anyone could give me an answer. I have found 5 hafnium convoys in the system of Chamunda I was wondering if it is possible that the UA can spawn in this sytem or is this just a coincidence

(on another note I feel bad having once found the correct convoy one time a while ago and not knowing what it was at the time..... :( ...)
 
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Wabbitsand

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Ok now I am really worried. Congrats on the Voyager find CMDR Panzertard. But this leads to a very important question. If FD have made the effort to have the Ancient (in Elite lore terms) earth probes from the very beginning of the Original game available to find in space, then does that mean EVERYTHING from the old lore is also going to be available to find in its actual position in our galaxy. Eg... ships hulls, Thargoid hulls and relics, previous Starships that launched many years ago, etc etc..... because I have read a hell of a lot of previous lore lately and there is a hell of a lot of space junk out there drifting. And I have noticed a lot more debris at battle zones, asteroid fields and such lately. I had a suspicion that the exploration side of the game was missing something but this opens up a whole new realm that would be absolutely amazing.

Interested to hear your thoughts folks, because following all of you through these threads has been the most fun I have had in a game since "cough cough" my first ever game 28 odd plus years ago.

Ps and what the heck would an ED easter egg be, let alone a treasure hunt. Easter eggs in space, TinFoil Hats of the Third Kind....
 
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CMDR Runcible Shaw

CMDR Runcible Shaw
So as I hate just sitting in one location for too long I'm going to make my contribution to the cause to look for SSSes in areas other than populated space and the Pleiades. I've hung out at the California nebula in various systems (less than 1000ly from the nearest populated system) waiting about 30 minutes for any signal source to appear. Nothing. I'm now out at the LBN 623 nebula (very pretty), which is well within 200ly of populated space, less than 6 jumps to the nearest station for my Asp. I'm going to wait here for a good long while and see if anything pops. Then I'm going to find a nearby B class star and see if anything changes. I think this will go a long way to adding evidence to the "specialness" of the Pleiades. Of course randomness being what it is I could just be having bad luck if I don't see anything.
 

mrtree

mrtree
I was staring at the Gal Map & thinking about what else we know:

* the UA are being delivered (likely) somewhere in the bubble
* we've found the convoys toward the outside of the bubble (Timocani & 109 Virginis)
* we've found free-floating UAs in the Pleiades (maybe natural spot, maybe not)
* we've seen the UA in the Wings trailer in the California nebula, headed bubble-ward

Probably stupid, but if you draw that line in order outward, you almost directly hit the "Trifid of the North" nebula. And it too has a line of the 2MASS stars next to it. In addition, "Trifid of the North Sector HR-W D1-8" has a big Class A star & seems to be the closest star to the nebula (none directly in it that I can find). 2.6K Ly out. Maybe, if all else fails, we should check there to see if there's anything there (SSS, PoI, whatever).

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EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
mrtree said:
I was staring at the Gal Map & thinking about what else we know:

* the UA are being delivered (likely) somewhere in the bubble
* we've found the convoys toward the outside of the bubble (Timocani & 109 Virginis)
* we've found free-floating UAs in the Pleiades (maybe natural spot, maybe not)
* we've seen the UA in the Wings trailer in the California nebula, headed bubble-ward

Probably stupid, but if you draw that line in order outward, you almost directly hit the "Trifid of the North" nebula. And it too has a line of the 2MASS stars next to it. In addition, "Trifid of the North Sector HR-W D1-8" has a big Class A star & seems to be the closest star to the nebula (none directly in it that I can find). 2.6K Ly out. Maybe, if all else fails, we should check there to see if there's anything there (SSS, PoI, whatever).

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Oh what the hell roast me but Trifid means having three lobes.... just like the UA

Just sayin`

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Topgear201 said:
Interesting, sadly I have no way to really help with any scientific investigations. Except for providing moral.
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Honesty is a wonderful thing. Even if you're not actively going somewhere in the game to "lend a hand" you can always still engage the heavy stuff in your head to think about potential ideas/solutions. Who knows you might think of something that hasn't been looked at.
 
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