UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

[LordZoltan]

FWIW, I think there's something to discover now; and the recent dev update infers that there'll certainly be something else to discover soon(tm).

I personally gave up on the UA hiding some massive story arc for us to follow right now a long time ago. It's a tidbit - a teaser, a clue about what's to come - but we haven't yet got the last piece of information from this that we can.

Looking more likely to be a place of interest at the moment; within or past the Pleiades is my guess. What exactly we're looking for I don't know, of course, but if I had a gun to my head, I'd say a wreck or something like that. Possibly showing up as a source in the same way the Voyagers have been shown.

 

[PsychoFish]

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There has been talk of simply selling the UAs in the right place.

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I think this could be one of the simplest, but still most valid solutions. Wasn't it compared to the Titan Black competition somewhere?

I will look at the planets of HR 1185 and HR 1172 now and see if I can find anything.

 

[Derthek]

I think this could be one of the simplest, but still most valid solutions. Wasn't it compared to the Titan Black competition somewhere?

I will look at the planets of HR 1185 and HR 1172 now and see if I can find anything.

I follow this particular cult as well. It's known as "the deed of greed".

 

[John Stoutbeard]

Is the above a glimpse at the future for finding Frontier's "hidden objects"

https://community.elitedangerous.com/node/258

Head out and fly around randomly in an area where you have no concept of which bits you've already travelled to and there are no local landmarks whatsoever to take bearings from.

I can't wait. =(

I never thought I'd say this but I think I'd rather camp SSS spawns.

I think what they said, is that they are 'fixing' this particular problem so that 'other' exploration items have a chance to be found as well.
Right now it's impossible with 1000ls, with the exception of the Voyagers where we have video evidence which tells us roughly where to go.
This statement is trying to tell us just that:

The changes coming for supporting the stories also have benefits elsewhere. One example of this is that there are new things for explorers to find while they are out in deep space. They won't pop up on the navigation system unless you're close enough.

I think they are saying they will extend the detection range again, however the it's not going to be 2 million LS like it was with the previous beacons (unfiltered).


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Has anyone spun up their FSD with no throttle to see if the UA does anything in or out of cargo hold?

Yes many of us. And some have even tested jumping as the counter ticks down while they pass the UA.


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I call . Nothing I've done has found any answers & evidently I'm too dense to find the Voyagers after more than 3 tries. :/

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Since I'm evidently such a baby about trying long-distance hops, I'd be willing to take this on. I'll see if I can find someone to wing up with & go see if there's anything to the system. I was playing around with the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_interstellar_radio_messages last night (recordings at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLr4nvzYqVcAong6BAQ1p1b3bz9mK1uWhM, but somehow I missed this one.

tl;dr is that all the systems in that Wikipedia list (save Polaris & now HD 131336) are in the bubble & I didn't see much of anything.

DONT YOU DARE DOWNTALK YOURSELF DOWN LIKE THAT! You've been a guiding beacon for me on how to find proper ways to do science in game.
Kudos to you, Mr.Tree-Branch o7
See, there you go again - doing proper science!

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point of note; the voyagers were in the sol system before- ver 1.1 or so- back then it was an "unidentified contact" that your hud would pick up if you were to pass your view over it- and it was targetable over 2million ls away. I went there back then- sat and listened to the "sounds of Earth" [or some looping personal message to whoever found it] crackling weakly over the comms channel... it was neat. sad. and lonely. waaay out there- yet nowhere really at all.

[url]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a323/Calaban/lonelyprobe.png[/URL]

so the point is: dont think you need to attach any special new meaning to its existence. Its been Out There. this whole time. NOT a V'GER... yet.

Agree with you there.
Finding Voyager XX was just to disprove the theories regarding 'FD have removed it for a purpose, hence it's related to the UA'.
We had to get it out of the way. As well as doing the "Communication test" on the Wiki.

 

[PsychoFish]

I will look at the planets of HR 1185 and HR 1172 now and see if I can find anything.

Disregard that. My screenshots are corrupted and I won't be able to access my home PC until September. So until someone wants to take a screenshot of ALL planets in those two systems (I'm aiming for the planet details/stats.) this won't happen.

I hate USB drives.

 

[Sigon]

A theory. Bear with me.

The UAs have been found free floating in the Pleiades region. Let's call this the source (for now)

We have encountered UAs being carried by convoys from somewhere to somewhere else (in transit)

We've been told that we're over-thinking it.

There has been talk of simply selling the UAs in the right place.

Does anyone remember this:

<spoiler>View attachment 56651</spoiler>

It talks of strange alien technology turning up in the old worlds. Now we have more sightings we can start to extrapolate. For example:

https://youtu.be/Rpvcp-CQ4RI

A video of the galaxy map (yawn) showing the almost straight line from HR 1172 to Lave (cherry picking the sightings I'll admit) but try the same test from Bast to Bolg to Lave.

I'm extending the search for source systems away from Lave, currently heading for Alcyone.

Comments Welcome

CMDR Willy Wale (aka Uncle Bert in RL)

Just to pick up on this, after all the excitement of the Voyager find ( o7 by the way).
I am not in the game, but out of curiousity, since it mentions secret convoys bringing alien stuff to three different worlds, are these three worlds divided over the main factions: Alliance, Fed and Empire?

They mention Lave, Quator and Riedquat.

If this is related, it could (sorry to mention this) point towards selling in these systems. The date is also a couple of weeks before the first UA was discovered.

 

[mikesan72]

I was staring at the Gal Map & thinking about what else we know:

* the UA are being delivered (likely) somewhere in the bubble
* we've found the convoys toward the outside of the bubble (Timocani & 109 Virginis)
* we've found free-floating UAs in the Pleiades (maybe natural spot, maybe not)
* we've seen the UA in the Wings trailer in the California nebula, headed bubble-ward

Spent around 2 hrs at HR 1875 yesterday. During this time I had 6 SSS spawns:
#1 Pirates
#2 Pirates
#3 EMPTY
#4 Factionless convoy (2 T9s ( Hafnium / Painite ), 1 Anaconda, several Cobras)
#5 Pirates
#6 Pirates

 

[Grumbleweed]

Looking more likely to be a place of interest at the moment; within or past the Pleiades is my guess. What exactly we're looking for I don't know, of course, but if I had a gun to my head, I'd say a wreck or something like that. Possibly showing up as a source in the same way the Voyagers have been shown.

If the 'thing' we're looking for is as difficult to find as the voyagers, then I'm not interested in looking for it. The truth is that Panzertard found V2 because he had clear instructions on exactly where to look, then spent two hours flying around semi randomly, with determination and persistence, admirable patience and a fair amount of applied logic. The second part we can do, at a push, but its not what I'd refer to as exhilerating gameplay. And we're missing the first part entirely, in fact, we don't even know if there is a 'thing' at all.

What worries me about the dev update is that FD might have misinterpreted what it is that is driving these threads. To be clear, in case you're reading, it is not the act of flying around semi randomly for hours on end looking for a rare object which we find fun. It is the possibility of working something out using logic and intelligence.

The grinding part is no fun at all. (Much) Less of the former and more of the latter. Please.

 

[RedWizzard]

I think this could be one of the simplest, but still most valid solutions.

It is an obvious solution. But there hasn't been an obvious hint about where to sell it, except perhaps Leonard Nimoy Station from the Wings trailer, and we've tried that.

I'm back to thinking that there probably something to figure out in terms of where the UAs come from and/or what they are, but there probably isn't some event to trigger. But who knows?

 

[LordZoltan]

If the 'thing' we're looking for is as difficult to find as the voyagers, then I'm not interested in looking for it. The truth is that Panzertard found V2 because he had clear instructions on exactly where to look, then spent two hours flying around semi randomly, with determination and persistence, admirable patience and a fair amount of applied logic. The second part we can do, at a push, but its not what I'd refer to as exhilerating gameplay. And we're missing the first part entirely, in fact, we don't even know if there is a 'thing' at all.

What worries me about the dev update is that FD might have misinterpreted what it is that is driving these threads. To be clear, in case you're reading, it is not the act of flying around semi randomly for hours on end looking for a rare object which we find fun. It is the possibility of working something out using logic and intelligence.

The grinding part is no fun at all. (Much) Less of the former and more of the latter. Please.

Totally agree...

Silliest thing about this 1000ls range is that, at top SC speed that'd be visible for about half a second! Unlike the signal sources, which spawn (and are therefore detected) at a distance proportional to your speed.

I have a naive thought that, if it's something like this to be found, then it'll be somewhat easier, just a case of finding the right system.

But you know something, selling a whole load of them in the same place might just well be the solution. Lave (ref Uncle Bert) isn't a bad choice. But then quite a few places are reasonable choices too.

 

[QuantumDelpha]

I'm back to thinking that there probably something to figure out in terms of where the UAs come from and/or what they are, but there probably isn't some event to trigger. But who knows?

I'm with you on that. I'm in a Cobra right now heading to Trifid of the North. I couldn't afford an Asp, and I didn't feel like going for my DBX I have stored so I just quickly whipped up a little ship at the Founders World.

I'm just past Pleiades now, heading for the odd pike of 2Mass stars just below the California Nebula. I'm gonna ride that downwards then head straight for Trifid N. I don't know what I expect to find, but Trifid meaning "split in three/three heads" in latin, and Polaris having to do with Thargoids, Polaris being the Northern Star, and this nebula being called Trifid of the North.

It's all just a bunch of speculation and throwing things at walls til they stick, but I have nothing better to do.

 

[Ecco]

Lets talk about NGC for a few posts please.

I have several questions that I do not think have ever been answered satisfactorily.

Why when we zoom all the way out on the galaxy map is NGC still listed? Just go look... zoom all the way out on the galaxy map. The ONLY names you will see are Sol, Achenar, Polaris.... and NGC 6357!?
The others make sense...

Sol = Federation
Achenar = Empire
Polaris = Thargoid (safe assumption)
NGC 6357 = ????

Alioth, home of the Alliance isn't even shown!

Why is NGC 6357 more important than even Alioth?
It isn't even the largest nebula.
Sag A* isn't even shown.
UPDATE: Think its because of proximity? Go to the other side of the galaxy map and zoom all the way out looking back at the Sol cluster... Still there....

oh and put your tinfoil hats on for this one guys.... remember he said look at the shape? Well.... NGC kinda looks like a UA!

 

[QuantumDelpha]

I've been to NGC on the way to a nebula cluster below Sag A* just after 1.3 and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I visited most of the systems and gave them a honk and a glance. Lots of T-Tauri stars and brown dwarves but thats about it. I didn't see any giant alien spacebases or odd ammonia planets or any signal sources while I was there.

Might be worth trying to hike a UA there, but it seems lately the only exercise I'm getting lately is stretching the evidence we have and jumping to conclusions. I really think that taking a UA to NGC would be a bit of a long stretch of the imagination.

 

[Sevenperry]

Has anyone FSDed away from a UA whilst carrying a UA, couldn't see it on WIKI.

I'm on enforced shore leave for awhile and by the time I'm back you'll probably have found the missing planet, Halsey will have returned after playing where's Waldo, Ms "nuclear" Winters will have been exposed and you'll have learnt the misjump secret. So I'll remain being a useless bystander for atleast the next week.

So fly interesting CMDRs and good luck on your tests. Got excited about voyager last night.

 

[John Stoutbeard]

Has anyone FSDed away from a UA whilst carrying a UA, couldn't see it on WIKI.

I'm on enforced shore leave for awhile and by the time I'm back you'll probably have found the missing planet, Halsey will have returned after playing where's Waldo, Ms "nuclear" Winters will have been exposed and you'll have learnt the misjump secret. So I'll remain being a useless bystander for atleast the next week.

So fly interesting CMDRs and good luck on your tests. Got excited about voyager last night.

Please see my reply to ArmoredMeat on the previous page: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&p=2721865&viewfull=1#post2721865

 

[Michael Brookes]

In response to Ratking: (Forgot to reply with quote.)

Where specifically do they say that UA is not connected to the Halsey incident? After reading the dev update, my take away was that CGs are important to any story arc.

Indeed. It's not just CGs, we have a few new tools we can use for players getting involved in storylines.

Michael

 

[Dommarraa]

Just finished the Economy route from Azaleach to Saga. 8 Commanders 1 UA carrier 24 jumps. We did it just like the GalNet said the pres did it. We even had the UA carrier jump and had the wing mates slave the drives just like the Galnet eye witness report.

Only thing we noticed.... is at the 71 ish ly mark there is a bubble of space with no stars.... like both wings said something during the journey and it may be of interest. look at Hip 32673. But it can only truly be appreciated when doing the actual route.

I am no going to take our UA and re-do the route with my UA-conda looking in all the stations and flying by each Star, planet, moon, belt... looking for debris, unusual signal sources, NPCs, noise. The big group was to try and replicate the Pres trip.

EDIT: Just remembered ..... I as the UA carrier in my conda recieved a ton of static when spooling my hyper-drive that over powered some of the other sounds in my cockpit. This happened several times and is the MAIN reason I am re running the route. To see if the static which was like nothing I had ever heard returns on those system jumps.

Odd that the Saga to Azaleach route doesnt have the void. Am going to record the route today so others can decide. My fine audio perception sucks.

 

[Zieman]

In response to Ratking: (Forgot to reply with quote.)

Where specifically do they say that UA is not connected to the Halsey incident? After reading the dev update, my take away was that CGs are important to any story arc.

Indeed. It's not just CGs, we have a few new tools we can use for players getting involved in storylines.

Michael

<tinfoil hat>
Oh great. Now we have a hidden community goal to complete: we have to sell an unknown amount of Unknown Artefacts at an unknown station in an unknown system. Easy as pie.
</tinfoil hat>

 

[Ecco]

Indeed. It's not just CGs, we have a few new tools we can use for players getting involved in storylines.

Michael

So glad you still read this MB!! Please keep the little bits of info coming. I hope you dont make the solution something in a future update. I hope its something real that we actually have a chance of solving at any time in this thread! Also that that the solution isn't hidden within this 1,000ls scan distance for objects..... Would suck if the solution is some Voyager like thing floating at 2 million LS from from a lore related star.

 

[Uncle Bert]

They mention Lave, Quator and Riedquat.

If this is related, it could (sorry to mention this) point towards selling in these systems. The date is also a couple of weeks before the first UA was discovered.

Yes, the date is soon after 1.2 when wings were added. Talented CMDRs have stolen UAs from conoys solo but I believe the intention was for the convoys to be tough enough to encourage us to wing up.

With all the other theories floating about it couldn't hurt to check the BBs in those systems with a UA in the hold

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