Obsidian outpost...
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The HOTAS ghosting started ejecting his heat sinks, then flipped on silent running and opened his galaxy map, it had nothing to do with the black hole except that supercruising that close to it made the problem worse. Without the ghosting, it wouldn't have been an issue.
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OP could edit to explain exactly what happened as it is not all apparent from the video. So very sad, half the reason I am in this game is FD for making it, the other half is Obsidian Ant for showing me how brilliant it is. I'd ferry however many tons of metal and tech to that distance to get an Obsidian outpost built.
Original post edited to better explain what happened.
Oh, no, this is sad news indeed. It broke my heart when I saw the video 
I'm sure someone could write a little story and post it in galnet. This is basically my worst nightmare when out exploring.
Please continue making excellent video's Obsidian.
I'm sure someone could write a little story and post it in galnet. This is basically my worst nightmare when out exploring.
Please continue making excellent video's Obsidian.
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Aha, I see. I wonder if that's some problem with USB headset and USB HOTAS. I use that too but so far I've been OK.
How horrible. I feel his loss. Having an X-55 myself and have had some close calls due to ghosting. It's a rare event though, which reared its ugly head again after the windows 10 upgrade. Getting rid of the Mad Katz drivers did the job and I haven't had any issues for days. About 8000 lyr out at the moment, so don't need any more trouble.
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I'll hold my hand up; he's a better man than me.
Under all of those circumstances, I'd have been tearing the cable out of the PC.
Under all of those circumstances, I'd have been tearing the cable out of the PC.
Aleksej had torn wire insulation in his joystick, might that cause the ghosting?:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=146269&p=2255480&viewfull=1#post2255480
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=146269&p=2255480&viewfull=1#post2255480
How truly horrible! I've had moments with my old X52 where it will go nuts, so I'll have to unplug the usb and plug it back in again so it resets. And while it's doing that the ship is on full throttle forwards. very unnerving.
Personally I think it would be nice if there was a way to secure your data, maybe kind of item/module that you could buy, black box basically that would drop on death, and float about in open for x amount of days? i'd say a week or such, would basically make the server spawn in a fixed wreckage with that black box that people could get, could possibly make for pvp rewards too? though I don't know if it should show up on subtarget, maybe it could just be cargo item?
I honestly don't think there is any shame in pulling the plug in a situation like that. Am 100% against combat logging, but his situation is completely different.
If you were undocking from a station and your controller started deploying weapons and blasting away, it can't be considered cheating if you hard reboot.
Pull the plug and troubleshoot the problem.. 4 months of time and effort is just too much. I feel really bad for him.
@Xondk - A blackbox with a limited ping time would be a good idea. X amount of hours or days to rush back to the wreckage and salvage the data
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As much as i feel sorry for the loss in the video, loosing data is the ONLY risk in the exploration. When we stay out for months it's the only chill. So for game mechanics sake, even when it's completly not your fault, the data mechanics should not be saved.
Not referring to this loss in the video, but making it back is an huge thing in exploration, as it always has been in human history.
Not to be too ghoulish, but I am a little relieved that black holes are dangerous. Though I am not entirely sure why the ship overheated? Unless something about the high magnetic or strong warping of space-time caused the ship's cooling system to malfunction? Maybe if you get close enough to even a seemingly dark black hole, then the X-ray radiation is still intense?
Has anyone tried getting too close to a normal star in a throw-away sidewinder? I wonder if they could burn up while in normal space too? I have never seen a ship that burned up in normal space though.
Has anyone tried getting too close to a normal star in a throw-away sidewinder? I wonder if they could burn up while in normal space too? I have never seen a ship that burned up in normal space though.
The thing is, unlike Trading or Combat, the Rank in Exploration is dependant on returning and handing in the data. You spend months out exploring, then die and the effort of that time has gone, and your rank stays put.
Put another way, wipe Combat/Trade rank progress gained between docks and see the howling on the Forum.
Sorry, but I think explorers need a module or something they can buy that transmits data back to base, which they can collect on if they die; you die you're located back to the beginning of your journey, I think that's enough risk for an Explorer.
No other 'Class' would accept this level of loss, I don't understand why Explorers accept it.
It has nothing to do with the black hole.
The root cause of the overheating was that silent running was deployed (as can be seen in the video). This happened due to controller input malfunction (the HOTAS executed uncommanded inputs).
Further, he didn't pay enough attention and failed to execute appropriate countermeasures (yank out the HOTAS, disable silent running via the menu) in time.
Yes, he could have done something about it, but to err is human and I feel sorry for him. Same for CMDR ChaosWulff, who wrecked his ship just a few days prior.
I would therefore urge everyone to unbind silent running and/or switch from toggle to hold mode.
BTW, I'm currently out 47k LY from SOL in my DBE. Still like the ship.
I think his hotas went mad and
1: expelled every heat sink
2: supercruised at full throttle toward the BH
3: enabled silent running
4: opened system map
today i scanned few BHs and they weren't producing any heat, and somewhere i saw a picture of somebody getting 5km to a particularly "small" one.
BTW, not referring to this video again, where no faults have been made, but unbind the silent running buttom is a must, and i almost personally learned the hard way.
EDIT: ninjaed by zelos 1983, get some rep
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Bounty Hunters can be killed in combat or smash on a rock
Miners/Traders can be interdicted, destroied or forced to deliver their cargo
Explorers must have incredible bad luck or a long series of mismanuevering to think to be harmed. Binary doom is less and less reported. Returning to bubble is just one time, and there are almost fail proof ways to dock and sell (go solo and set final destination in a high security system, don't linger fueling too much if you get signals, helicoidal to the station and intentionally overshoot it, and finally choose an outpost easy dock, or remove dust from docking compiter if your are using a shieldless conda)
Ahhh. I see. So my theorycrafting was for naught, and Black Holes are still bubbly snuggly bathtubs complete with a rubber ducky and a scubaman? Ah well. A kamikazee explorer can still dream of reset by spaghettification...
Combat pilot has a mishap, loses a a few million in bounties and a rebuy; keeps all Rank progress.
Trader has a mishap, gets pirated/PK-ed, loses cargo and a rebuy, keeps Rank progress up to that point.
Explorer has a mishap loses, in this case, 4-months of exploration, distance travelled, loses all discoveries, gains no Rank progress gets a rebuy.
All 3 types can mitigate by going solo/private, lose to the Explorer is still far greater than the other two styles of play.
Binary doom? Try fuel loss. The Fuel Rats have saved enough Explorers to show that 'death' is still a real risk.
Sorry, imo Explorers need a fail safe for their data.