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They're merely moving you from dedicated Xbox One beta servers to the same servers currently being used for Stress testing next week. (Moving you from one beta server to a different beta server). They've most likely got a GPP4 build (in line with 1.4 Stress Test) going through Microsoft Certification as we speak.

I very much doubt anything will change with regards to your save, your client will simply connect to a different server than it does currently. You're still not moving to the live servers until October 6th.

Does anyone know how this affects exploration data? Just losing my first finders fee amounts to about 20mil in progress toward elite rank (don't care as much about creds)

I already lost about 5 mil in their unannounced build update...
 
From the dev update:

Xbox players will be transitioned from their own test server to a combined server with PC/Mac players next week, so from then all players from all platforms on the test servers will share the same background simulation.


Pretty sure the Cart database is going to be shared as well. It wouldn't make sense for the XB1 to retain its own separate cart data at this point.


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Does anyone know how this affects exploration data? Just losing my first finders fee amounts to about 20mil in progress toward elite rank (don't care as much about creds)

I already lost about 5 mil in their unannounced build update...

You are not going to loose any money whether you sell your data now or wait till after this move is done. If you sell it before, the data itself will likely get wiped so any discovery credits will be lost. Credits as in YOUR NAME on the SYSTEM. Will your discovery data get saved permanently after the move? I have no idea, but if we will indeed be sharing the same Cart database as the PC and Mac, don't be surprised if a lot of your data is redundant and has already been claimed by PC and Mac players, depending on where you got it out there in the Galaxy.
 
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Harbinger

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You are missing a VERY important fact here... The database we will be using after this move will be the same one that the PC and Mac use, so if that doesn't mean a loss of current Cart data for the XB1, I don't know what does!

You're right, it is highly likely that the accounts will be liquidated being that the exploration, powerplay etc. data will clash with the state on the Stress Test Server. It's essentially going to be a dry run for October 6th. Still it's only 8-12 hours of game time to make it back from Sagittarius A* to sell that data. ;)
 
Please tell me how to get back in 8 hours. I am currently making about 1500 ly/hr in my DBE.

Keep in mind I am on xbox and plotting in the core is near impossible.
 
Please tell me how to get back in 8 hours. I am currently making about 1500 ly/hr in my DBE.

Keep in mind I am on xbox and plotting in the core is near impossible.

I really don't expect that our accounts are going to get wiped over this, (They have said nothing to indicate that this will be the case) so your data might be safer keeping it on your ship until after the move and then sell it with the possible chance that the discovery data may be retained since it will be on the PC/Mac background sim. If you sell it ahead of the move as I said, you will still make the same amount of $$, but I am sure that the data itself is not going to make the trip to the integrated test servers.

You might want to attempt to contact someone at FD about this via a PM or possible a support ticket to make sure you have all the info you need to know, considering how much $$ you stand to loose if stuff does get wiped during this migration.
 
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I believe the best case would be my data is still worth full value but since I was neutron star hunting in the core I fear most have already been discovered by PC/Mac players. As I said this will likely cost me about 20mil in first discovery credits.

Worst case is all my exploration data is lost.

I don't care about my name appearing on the bodies as much as reaching elite rank. This is likely to set me back at least 12% of that progress equal to about 20 hours of exploring.
 
I believe the best case would be my data is still worth full value but since I was neutron star hunting in the core I fear most have already been discovered by PC/Mac players. As I said this will likely cost me about 20mil in first discovery credits.

Worst case is all my exploration data is lost.

I don't care about my name appearing on the bodies as much as reaching elite rank. This is likely to set me back at least 12% of that progress equal to about 20 hours of exploring.

I hear ya, but its not like this situation was not something we have been told was going to happen since the game first came out. Discovery data has always been a hit or miss thing with the GPP versions since the Cart data is always at risk of being wiped at any time for whatever reason.

While I have done some exploring, after learning about how often the discovery data was going to be cleared during the whole GPP process back in June, I have held off doing any serious exploring until after the final release, since the amount of time required for deep exploration is so high and I figured that if I was going to make that kind of investment, I would want to have ALL the benefits on my return with no risk of losing any of it over a reset.
 
I hear ya, but its not like this situation was not something we have been told was going to happen since the game first came out. Discovery data has always been a hit or miss thing with the GPP versions since the Cart data is always at risk of being wiped at any time for whatever reason.

While I have done some exploring, after learning about how often the discovery data was going to be cleared during the whole GPP process back in June, I have held off doing any serious exploring until after the final release, since the amount of time required for deep exploration is so high and I figured that if I was going to make that kind of investment, I would want to have ALL the benefits on my return with no risk of losing any of it over a reset.

I just figured since we just got a build update we'd have at least a few weeks. Just wondering if I should self destruct or try to make it back. Was hoping someone from FD would post specifics without going through a support ticket which probably won't be addressed until next week anyway.
 
I just figured since we just got a build update we'd have at least a few weeks. Just wondering if I should self destruct or try to make it back. Was hoping someone from FD would post specifics without going through a support ticket which probably won't be addressed until next week anyway.

Your call, but if it were me, I think I would probably just sit tight and wait till after the migration and see where things stand then. Don't know how much $$ you expect to make off your data, but self destructing seems pretty harsh since you would loose it all right? Always the chance that the specific area you pulled all the Cart data from has yet to be hit by someone else. You will never know unless you wait till after the migration to cash in your data.
 
Widely known or not, its still crap. Our server is doomed to die before theirs, and they don't seem interested in supporting any of our unique features, like SmartGlass, or Kinect, in any but the most minimal way possible, at least we could be allowed to explore it ourselves. The only bright spot in this whole thing is the PS4 players are going to have to settle for the crumbs that somehow make it past us.
 
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I don't think you'll be facing off with them, my understanding is that the background simulation is merged, but xbox and PC/Mac are essentially in two private groups that cannot meet.

I may be wrong though.

Surely this will fan the flames of undermining even more than the solo/open debate ever did, imagine being undermined for a CG or PP goal by someone who isnt even in your galaxy?
 
Surely this will fan the flames of undermining even more than the solo/open debate ever did, imagine being undermined for a CG or PP goal by someone who isnt even in your galaxy?

Although I've not dabbled in the PP for just that reason... the man has a point.
 
Widely known or not, its still crap. Our server is doomed to die before theirs, and they don't seem interested in supporting any of our unique features, like SmartGlass, or Kinect, in any but the most minimal way possible, at least we could be allowed to explore it ourselves.

Considering that Kinect eats GPU resources (hence most games disabling Kinect) and MS rolling out the NXE/Windows 10 'OneCore' for XB1 preview members, I don't blame FD for not supporting Kinect or Smartglass. Not right now anway.
 

Yaffle

Volunteer Moderator
Surely this will fan the flames of undermining even more than the solo/open debate ever did, imagine being undermined for a CG or PP goal by someone who isnt even in your galaxy?

I think it a reasonable assumption that the proportion of x-box players acting in each power direction would be roughly the same as the proportions of PC players, so it's not an issue.
 
In my opinion mate you have three choices . You could try and make it back. Or you could keep going and hope it keeps you data and finally Ive heard of the devs moving ships to sol or a central system after they've had issues.Sending the devs a message definitely seems a better option than self destruction .
 
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I don't think you'll be facing off with them, my understanding is that the background simulation is merged, but xbox and PC/Mac are essentially in two private groups that cannot meet.

I may be wrong though.


Surely this will fan the flames of undermining even more than the solo/open debate ever did, imagine being undermined for a CG or PP goal by someone who isnt even in your galaxy?

This, for me, is the biggest drawback in the "separate but equal" universe structure. While each group (XB1/PC/Solo) can separately effect CG/PP change in the combined universe, neither group can directly aid or interfere with the CG/PP efforts of the other.

As a programmer, I can fully understand the constraints that necessitate this type of universe structure, however, as a dedicated fan of the game and pledged supporter of Princess Aisling Duval, I feel it sucks Tlakian swamp water...

PP is my "thing" in ED and without fair opportunity to prevent undermining of a contested system, I feel it will take away from my enjoyment of the complex and subtle strategies involved.
 
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Cross-Platform support is a feature held back by Microsoft policy and not necessarily something purposely held back by Frontier Developments. It is a feature Microsoft are working on and you can vote for your support here...

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/25...028940-pc-and-xbox-cross-platform-multiplayer

As you will from see Microsoft's response it looks like this is something we will see when Xbox One's OS moves fully to the Windows 10 ecosystem and Cross-Platform play will be a Windows 10 only feature.
 
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I just had an epiphany of sorts. I was planning to make a few short exploration trips in preparation for a trip to Sag A, and eventually a long exploration survey. If I started now, I'd likely be halfway to Sag A when "the wipe" occurs. Not knowing what I'll find out there, how do I purchase a ship if there's no starport, or shipyard to buy one from? Where will I be deposited, in space? Will I be provided a space suit with enough life support and fuel to return to a dock?

Oh, the horror.
 
I just had an epiphany of sorts. I was planning to make a few short exploration trips in preparation for a trip to Sag A, and eventually a long exploration survey. If I started now, I'd likely be halfway to Sag A when "the wipe" occurs. Not knowing what I'll find out there, how do I purchase a ship if there's no starport, or shipyard to buy one from? Where will I be deposited, in space? Will I be provided a space suit with enough life support and fuel to return to a dock?

Oh, the horror.

There's no confirmation of a "wipe" coming with this migration next week. The only thing we know is that the background simulation servers (and presumably the matchmaking servers) are being moved to the same as the PC test servers. However, if they do wipe our ships, I would only guess they would either send you back to the last station you docked at or to the starter world.
 
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