Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

[SNaomiScott]

I wouldn't make that promise if I were you.... this thread bounces around topics quite regularly.

You know what it's been OT for too long, Yaffle or Ian turn up to tell us off.
It's like having an extra set of parents, though I'm not sure who is mum and who is dad

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Must... keep... promise....

 

[DarkWalker]

Multiplayer - Can more than one person play in a single instance and interact with each other? Yes. Then it's multiplayer.

Or am I missing something?

Actually, you don't even need players to be in the same instance for the game to be considered multiplayer. The first Mario is already considered a multiplayer game, and in that the players take turns playing. More recently, The Might Quest for Epic Loot is a game sold as an MMO, despite the fact players never interact directly, and the most recent SimCity is considered multiplayer because players affect the same commodity market and can send resources between cities.

 

[Dogoncrook]

There is no "debate" when someone just screams and shouts for Solo / Group to be removed or for Open to gain special privileges over the other modes - that is not by any stretch of the imagination about "giving feedback" - that is blindly buying something then throwing a tantrum afterwards when it does not what you've assumed it is.

Also, Frontier Developments themselves have repeated the same thing over and over - they are keeping the modes and the ability to mode switch.
So please, tell me what is there to "debate"?

All this information has been available for 3 years. So a person blindly buying a game at this stage and then complaining it was not designed to meet their personal needs is being willfully stupid.

You may also like to know, as this is more information you are missing - this thread is the merge target for when people try to make new threads about the modes / mode switching or disguise threads on the topic. We needed a merge target as a handful of people at the start were basically abusing the forums by rewording the same arguments to remove Solo and cluttering the message boards with junk threads all about the modes. It was decided to just start merging them as it was easier than keep locking them. So if someone ends up in here, it is because they are using ages old arguments or tricks to push the same agenda - an Open Only game.... which has been dealt with by FD, the answer was "No".

This has nothing to do with what Robert wants or his convictions by the way - the mega threads started long before he was a mod.
So petty name calling of a mod is not only arrogant but uncalled for and against the TOS for the forums - more information you didn't read I take it?

We can debate whatever we feel like. If you don't feel like contributing don't.

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

 

[Cody]

I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

<grins> Cobblers!

 

[Faded Glory]

We can debate whatever we feel like. If you don't feel like contributing don't.

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

But you'd presumably be lonely...

 

[Roybe]

We can debate whatever we feel like. If you don't feel like contributing don't.

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

So....what would you be playing at that point?

 

[Dogoncrook]

So....what would you be playing at that point?

An mmo obviously.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

But like him I'm done arguing (frankly I'm done with this game it's completely devoid of soul) it doesn't matter.

Promises.

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

Ever heard of irony or introspection?

 

[ianw]

We can debate whatever we feel like. If you don't feel like contributing don't.

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

FD see the community as everyone who plays ED in all modes. Maybe you mean the anti social elements that exist to ruin other people's gaming experience?

 

[Seonid]

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

You like to tease us don't you?

 

[Agony_Aunt]

We can debate whatever we feel like. If you don't feel like contributing don't.

Here's one, I'd prefer they drop solo to push the anti social elements out of the community. Discuss.

Sure. But to drop solo (and for the sake of argument, let's - wrongly - assume that people only play solo because of the anti-social players) first we need to get rid of them.

But where to draw the line? Are we just talking about people who abuse mechanics (but are not flagged as exploits by FD), or do we include people who blow people up without reason? Or is someone who is anti-social just someone who doesn't play in a way you don't like? Or is it anyone being a pirate?

You see the problem with the thing you want to discuss? I don't think its really a viable discussion topic. Too much subjectivity.

 

[Dogoncrook]

Promises.

Ever heard of irony or introspection?

I was being sarcastic and a bit hyperbolic. Really the point is we can discuss what we want whether he likes it or not. Poking the nest, cause why not? Apparently there is no need to stay on topic or have a civil conversation here, this thread is apparently immune.

 

[withnail]

You like to tease us don't you?

I'm in favour of adding more modes just to keep this topic interesting.

Maybe an Irritable Solo Player mode or an Open Player Master Race mode might help.

I'm going to participate in the Happy Medium group.

 

[Dogoncrook]

You like to tease us don't you?

Yeah a bit.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I was being sarcastic and a bit hyperbolic. Really the point is we can discuss what we want whether he likes it or not. Poking the nest, cause why not? Apparently there is no need to stay on topic or have a civil conversation here, this thread is apparently immune.

Alright, but doesn't he have the right to respond in whatever way he pleases as well, be it by posting the wall of text or give his opinion on the sentiment posted, or is this privilege restricted in some way?

You seem fine with poking the nest, but when the poker gets counterpoked, it's suddenly not done?

 

[Roybe]

An mmo obviously.

What's stopping you now? Plenty out there!

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I'm in favour of adding more modes just to keep this topic interesting.

Maybe an Irritable Solo Player mode or an Open Player Master Race mode might help.

I'm going to participate in the Happy Medium group.

We already have a private group master race mode...what more do you want?

 

[Dogoncrook]

Sure. But to drop solo (and for the sake of argument, let's - wrongly - assume that people only play solo because of the anti-social players) first we need to get rid of them.

But where to draw the line? Are we just talking about people who abuse mechanics (but are not flagged as exploits by FD), or do we include people who blow people up without reason? Or is someone who is anti-social just someone who doesn't play in a way you don't like? Or is it anyone being a pirate?

You see the problem with the thing you want to discuss? I don't think its really a viable discussion topic. Too much subjectivity.

Well I would say in the context of a game, anti social is a line drawn at people wanting to interact in any form that doesn't impede play or step outside of the defined rules. You buy the ticket you take the ride, so negative outcomes wouldn't really be considered anti social like pirating etc.

But it wasn't really a serious suggestion either. You have proved my point though you can very well disagree without being abusive about it or waiving off the suggestion in a condescending manner.

 

[Roybe]

Well I would say in the context of a game, anti social is a line drawn at people wanting to interact in any form that doesn't impede play or step outside of the defined rules. You buy the ticket you take the ride, so negative outcomes wouldn't really be considered anti social like pirating etc.

But it wasn't really a serious suggestion either. You have proved my point though you can very well disagree without being abusive about it or waiving off the suggestion in a condescending manner.

But then this thread would die...at least we have each other!

 

[relayer]

Not challenging you at all; I am curious - where & what is being said (just to be up on what's going on) - link?

 

[Roybe]

Not challenging you at all; I am curious - where & what is being said (just to be up on what's going on) - link?

I keep running across general comments about solo being 'left out'...I'll try to link back if I see them again.

This thread brings the discussion up throughout it. A few times. Again...my thinking is that if the sentiment is there...it needs to be addressed with some features getting added in to bring Solo the equity they desire.

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=195514&p=3013934&viewfull=1#post3013934