HOTAS for Xbox One: Vote now!

I don't think you understand just how many times you have to waterboard these companies, how many bamboo splinters you have to shove under their fingernails, to get them to update their drivers. X52 owners are still waiting for Saitek to fix their drivers for Windows 10, which released 3 months ago. I think CH has been using the same software GUI since Windows 98, and Thrustmaster just updates their stuff randomly. Sometimes they hit it within days, sometimes years.

Lol I hear ya... Thats the thing about xbox live though... MS holds them accountable and all their stuff has to go through MS QA... They generally hold them accountable
 
It's not Frontier or Microsoft who has to do the Lion's share of the work, it's the hardware companies who have to make new driver software to work on the XB1 that you've got to convince. You can't just take the software that Thrustmaster, Saitek, et al require for their hardware to function and throw it on the XB1. You're petitioning the wrong company. Microsoft isn't going to care one whit about players asking for someone else's hardware on their console that they already sell gamepads for, another company is going to have to get their foot in that door before anything has a remote possibility of happening.

If you want to use something better than a gamepad, use a mouse and keyboard. Don't pay attention when people tell you it doesn't work well, it took me a couple hours to get everything down well enough that I was out-piloting most players I came across and I used mouse and keyboard for 7 or 8 months.

Edit: On my couch, so anyone who says that that is also an issue can kiss it.

This. MS is not going to make the peripheral control. FD isn't going to make the peripheral control. So, we need a third party company to do it... and, from what my understanding is, there is not a big enough market on the XBone to warrant making HOTAS. So, what can we do about that?

#1 Keep playing the game with what is available.
#2 Nothing.

Look, if you have the money to start a hardware company do it. Maybe you could prove some folks wrong.As it stands now, no established company is doing it. That says to me "no profit". To me, "no profit" in terms of business means "it isn't happening".
 
How about that Elite controller?

Yeah this seems like an overtly expensive piece of hardware which will only be used by a minority of players. Kinda in the same realm of a HOTAS.

Mommy and daddy are not going to buy little Billy an Elite controller for Christmas... Its only those that can afford to drop $150 at a whim that will have them. Im still thinking about picking one up, but havent gone out of my way to locate one. If I see one and its the right time of day, it may go home with me or get shipped to my house.
 
Yeah this seems like an overtly expensive piece of hardware which will only be used by a minority of players. Kinda in the same realm of a HOTAS.

Mommy and daddy are not going to buy little Billy an Elite controller for Christmas... Its only those that can afford to drop $150 at a whim that will have them. Im still thinking about picking one up, but havent gone out of my way to locate one. If I see one and its the right time of day, it may go home with me or get shipped to my house.

I use one of these. http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/accessories/xbox-one-fusion-pro-wired-controller/123712
 
Lol I hear ya... Thats the thing about xbox live though... MS holds them accountable and all their stuff has to go through MS QA... They generally hold them accountable

And that's why the biggest hurdle is getting these manufacturers to care about putting their hardware on the console. A Thrustmaster Warthog costs as much as an Xbox One, good luck convincing them there's a thriving market there.
 
Yeah this seems like an overtly expensive piece of hardware which will only be used by a minority of players. Kinda in the same realm of a HOTAS.

Mommy and daddy are not going to buy little Billy an Elite controller for Christmas... Its only those that can afford to drop $150 at a whim that will have them. Im still thinking about picking one up, but havent gone out of my way to locate one. If I see one and its the right time of day, it may go home with me or get shipped to my house.
I can't get one, the 7 store's near me that stocked it sold out early morning....I feel sorry cause some camped out & STILL couldn't get one. It's alot more wanted apparently than one would think.
 
Had the notion of gutting an XB One controller and melding it with an OTS joystick. Obviously you would have to map the XB One button contacts and sticks to those on the joystick(s), so the throttle control would still be by button.
 
Once NXOE (Windows 10 core) is out 12th Novemebr ish suerly drivers should not be a problem as its windows 10 drivers then. Surely packaging them into an app or what ever like the Controller Button remapping app for the flightstick would be easy, then you should be able to use any usb flightstick.
 
Had the notion of gutting an XB One controller and melding it with an OTS joystick. Obviously you would have to map the XB One button contacts and sticks to those on the joystick(s), so the throttle control would still be by button.

I did exactly that on my PS2 controller about 10 years ago. A dawdle.. I pulled apart a Logitech Attack 3 (under £15 at the time) and a cheap 3rd party PS2 controller, and remapped the right stick to the variometers on the Attack 3, and did some splicing for switches. I vaguely remember Gran Turismo 3 and one of the rally driving games at the time being utterly awesome with it. Trigger to accelerate, button 8 to brake(?) and gears on the hat I think. I meant to upgrade it to allow dynamic remapping of switches for other games using a breadboard matrix (honestly, it was horrifically ugly, and had more blue electrical tape and twisted wires than soldered joints and heatshrink. :) Then the Xbox 360 came along, and I got rid of my PS2 stuff. I'm amazed no-one has hacked an Xbox One controller this way, but maybe the fact that you NEED two sticks for most games other than driving games means that we're kinda stuck.

HOTAS is fine, but it's really a niche controller for flight combat games, and consoles don't have many of them these days.
 
cant you xbox guys use your kinnects for headtracking then?....i thought thats what that was all about...
and yes the xboxers or any console it comes to should have hotas support....
 
That is true but I think FD said they wouldn't allow it since it would give people too much of an advantage over others who didn't have it. If my memory serves correctly it's the same of why they won't allow Kinect either since not everyone has a connect.

Not using Kinect is more because it's a waste of GPU resources.

ED - like most other games now - takes advantage of the 10% of GPU resources that were previously reserved for Kinect, whether Kinect was used or not. Using Kinect would mean giving back those resources.
 
Ive been MIA from Elite for a while and have only been able to play on my Mac. However, i recently purchased a Xbox One for my kids to enjoy. Now that i hear talk of Mac not being able to run the new Horizons and Xbox not having flight stick or HOTAS support, im beginning to regret spoiling my kids with the Xbox. I should have just invested in a gaming PC. I need to take care of the big kid in me!! Damn you frontier!
 
Someone submitted a suggestion to XBox regarding HOTAS support, and it needs votes.
Honestly it might not get anywhere, but if you're like me and would absolutely LOVE to have fully working HOTAS for the console, I would highly recommend submitting your vote. It couldn't hurt, and the more votes, the better our chances!

Check out the link to submit your vote:
http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251650-console-accessories/suggestions/6289458-hotas-for-xbox-one

Google the Titan One for XBOX, the Hotas works flawlessly with it.
 
Im assuming you have experience with this setup. Do you have to program macros using the Titan One software considering the Xbox One button layout uses combinations of buttons to complete an action, such as deploying landing gear?
 
I've been looking into the Titan one and Cronus max, the thing that puts me off with them is that they both seem to need a Windows PC running the software to convert the controller inputs into something that the Xbox can recognise, not a major issue I would say as I would imagine a lot of us have one we could use, but all the trailing wires would drive me mental, I may get impatient and go for it, but there's a couple of things that are encouraging me to wait, first is a bit of secondhand info (so I make no guarantees as to validity) about statements from the boss of mad catz (whom I think also own saitek and made Xbox 360 flight sticks) that make it sound like they're developing something.
Second, and most encouraging, is news that Dovetail games are working with Microsoft and are going to bring their flight simulator to Xbox in 2016, it's based off Microsoft flight simulator and is likely to be impossible to play without HOTAS, not only that, people have been known to spend tens of thousands on setups to play Microsoft flight simulator so it should become worth it financially for Microsoft and flight stick makers to give us a setup we can use.

http://www.thosegamers.com/dovetail-games-to-bring-flight-simulator-2016-to-xbox-one/
 
No worries, I've actually sent a sneaky email to dovetail games to see if they have any info that they can share, so I'll keep you posted if I can.
 
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