What has happened to chivalry?

If a wing of players interdicts you, expect nothing but getting shot at, as that's all that will happen usually. The Code, CTRL, ROA, etc, they don't care about anything but getting a kill, if it takes 20 of them to do that, well, they'll send 20 and brag about how badass they are. When you point out that 20 to 1 odds isn't exactly fair, they'll feed you multiple lines about stuff that has no bearing on the fact that they actually suck horribly, hence requiring 20 to 1 odds, but instead call YOU a whiner and so forth. Oh, and don't forget the always tossed out there 'What do you think the Dangerous in Elite Dangerous stands for!'...which actually has nothing to do with PvP at all and they know it, but hey, why let little things like facts get in your way!

You'll be able to tell the REAL PvPers in Elite Dangerous pretty easy. They will not have a Conda or Python loaded to the brim with SCBs, that's your first clue you've encountered an actual PvPer and not a ganker. If they are in a wing, they'll actually open communications with you and offer you a fair fight, not just immediately open fire you without a word.

Good luck finding those real PvPers however, I've yet to actually encounter a single one and I've killed some players who tried my mettle, funny combat usually, to me at any rate, I'm sure my victims didn't find them amusing however. I don't get bothered very often however, as when I'm in the bubble I do tend to fly combat vessels, no SCBs however, those are for the unskilled who need to use multiple Pythons and FDLs to take out those ever so deadly Sidewinders and T6s. Funny thing, most of those groups make a lot of noise about how badass they are, how they'll just kill anyone who flies into their system, and yet I've never had them even look sideways at me when I've flown through in my Clipper, and I'm not alone in this observation, seems those of us who fly around in something that's armed and dangerous, we're invisible to them, but man oh man can they spot an unarmed T6 or Hauler the MOMENT it enters the system!
 

Sure, there are people that gank people for the fun of ganking people, they are entitled to their instruments to happiness/fun as long as FD allows it. I personally don't see it as fun.

My argument centers around the idea that Piracy incorporates fear factor and efficiency, the more scared the target is and the faster one can disable a ship the better.

Bounty hunting is pretty much the same, one wishes to destroy a target as swift and decisive as possible, therefore increase the odds of success by stacking numbers.

[Ops, read it wrong, thanks Duane]
 
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Sure, there are people that gank people for the fun of ganking people, they are entitled to their instruments to happiness/fun as long as FD allows it. I personally don't see it as fun.

My argument centers around the idea that Piracy incorporates fear factor and efficiency, the more scared the target is and the faster one can disable a ship the better.

Bounty hunting is pretty much the same, one wishes to destroy a target as swift and decisive as possible, therefore increase the odds of success by stacking numbers.

Also, calling people who play different than yourself in ways perhaps you do not agree with as having mental issues is perhaps a mental issue of its own.

Oh dear Fangsy - Parlez-vous Anglais? There is a slight difference between a mentality issue and a mental issue!
 
If a wing of players interdicts you, expect nothing but getting shot at, as that's all that will happen usually. The Code, CTRL, ROA, etc, they don't care about anything but getting a kill, if it takes 20 of them to do that, well, they'll send 20 and brag about how badass they are. When you point out that 20 to 1 odds isn't exactly fair, they'll feed you multiple lines about stuff that has no bearing on the fact that they actually suck horribly, hence requiring 20 to 1 odds, but instead call YOU a whiner and so forth. Oh, and don't forget the always tossed out there 'What do you think the Dangerous in Elite Dangerous stands for!'...which actually has nothing to do with PvP at all and they know it, but hey, why let little things like facts get in your way!

That's not true. If you ask for a 1vs1 every RoA will accept that. Most of CTRL and Code will do that too. By the way, we do not fly only Condas and Pythons, because these ships are to slow and it would be to easy to escape:D
 
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Sure, there are people that gank people for the fun of ganking people, they are entitled to their instruments to happiness/fun as long as FD allows it. I personally don't see it as fun.

My argument centers around the idea that Piracy incorporates fear factor and efficiency, the more scared the target is and the faster one can disable a ship the better.

Bounty hunting is pretty much the same, one wishes to destroy a target as swift and decisive as possible, therefore increase the odds of success by stacking numbers.

[Ops, read it wrong, thanks Duane]
Yeah, but it still is an issue of mentality ( nice misread btw :p ) as I tried to point out, it is about the result not the path/battle to get to the result, and it is seen a lot of late in a lot of things and rather sad, personally I get invigorated and excited by battles and challenges, win or lose, I can lose something and enjoy it just as much as if I won, but a lot of the times now of late, the 'winners' that come from such group attacks brag a ton about their win even though they outnumbered the person, and as long as they aren't significantly weaker then their target should win. I find it sad, because there's nothing gained in such a battle no excitement no questioning, and the fact that people can get upset that their target gets away even when they team them, what were they expecting? that people just sit there and let themselves be killed.
I play the games to have fun, to be challenged, that's my mentality on most.
However a lot of people play to min/max or simply win in any way possible, that's their mentality, I find it sad though.
 
Not quite. It was very much alive in World War 1 and 2 in the air war. Many fighter jocks are referred to as knights of the sky.

Not really. Chivalry was alive only in a sense that in some rare occasion an enemy pilot wouldn't take the kill shot if he saw that the target had already been knocked out of the fight or escort a damaged bomber out to sea. Otherwise fighter pilots mostly relied on surprise attacks: striking quickly from behind and getting out of there before setting for another attack. Shooting at pilots in their parachutes wasn't that rare either.
 
So, can I make a plea to all players to respect chivalrous standards and only attack 1 vs 1?

To quote Jayne Cobb,

"I'll kill a man in a fair fight..........or if I think he is going to start a fair fight!"


Kill or be killed bro, doesn't matter how you win, so long as you win! Who would you rather saw the insurance screen, you or someone else?

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Oh and history shows us that at Agincourt, the French had a far larger Army than the English, but their need to follow chivalry (and also largely due to having no decent Archers) didn't end too well for them :D
 
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Oh and history shows us that at Agincourt, the French had a far larger Army than the English, but their need to follow chivalry (and also largely due to having no decent Archers) didn't end too well for them :D

It wasn't Chivalry that ended Agincourt badly for the French, but the terrain really didn't help them at all.

Oh and yes, archers.
 
You'll be able to tell the REAL PvPers in Elite Dangerous pretty easy. They will not have a Conda or Python loaded to the brim with SCBs, that's your first clue you've encountered an actual PvPer and not a ganker.

Normally your posts are good to read, but not today - this isn't true in the slightest. A "real" PvP pilot is anyone who attacks you - that's the definition of PvP (player versus player). Also flying an Anaconda / Python loaded with SCBs is (currently & sadly) the only smart thing to do when out solo to counter clowns who jump you 3v1.

It's not the ship you're in but the mentality.
 
Oh and history shows us that at Agincourt, the French had a far larger Army than the English, but their need to follow chivalry (and also largely due to having no decent Archers) didn't end too well for them :D

Go back a bit further. The death of chivalry started at the battle of Crecy, where exactly the same circumstances existed.
 
Why not set up a new player group for people who want to play the same way.

This has been really successful for the PvE groups (Mobius springs to mind).

Why not have an Anti-Ganking Group?
 
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