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UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn
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Ooo - thanks for spotting!
Interesting what was left out of the submission. If you're going TinFoil mad, that is.
Figured that any 'responsible' scientific research group would be shouting 'here be dragons!'
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So - they edited out the bit about selling all the rares at Bond?
No - they flat-rejected that post last week!
Actually, to be fair, the bits that are missing (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=101801&p=3187148&viewfull=1#post3187148) are technically either pure conjecture or superfluous.
The rares one (look back in that thread) was a little clumsy in places, and did mention the Hutton Mug (for funsies), but specifically called out the mass rares sale by Derthek/DelSpan and others.
I guess we have to be careful with this - my intention with submitting to GalNet is never to 'probe' for any hidden truths, but to document the mystery, and our involvement in it, as we see it - and help to add some texture (and muscle Palin out of it!) - we're getting a good crack at it, too - so to MB et al who read this thread thanks for letting us get involved like this!
I guess the payback might be hell's-fire being wrought upon the homestead...
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That would require a BM in the station. I don't know about the others but it is impossible for ALD since she closes BMs in her controlled systems. I think most of them would be unlikely to have a BM in their home system except maybe Delaine who I would expect to have one in every station.
I need to vent this out of my system:
I couldn't find it, but I think I heard that station malfunctions were caused by some computer virus (well even if I heard wrong, other things might support this).
I think UAs (or their masters, by operating UAs remotely) hacked our bubble's stock exchange and spiked the price in order to make us bring even more UAs to make more stations infected and/or completely overtake already infected stations.
upd: If they hacked stock exchange that is (based on current state of things in our real world) equipped with the most protected, advanced and fastest computers and technology we have, then they surely have access everywhere else we have on computers
If it's true we have to put whole Galnet offline and only share data, by physically moving data canisters around, and we need to do it right now, before it's too late. Or a big chunk of our own stations (with their big weapons) will be under some alien (AI?) control
I couldn't find it, but I think I heard that station malfunctions were caused by some computer virus (well even if I heard wrong, other things might support this).
- We brought lots of UAs at various stations
- Some stations gradually started to have technical issues with computer related things (like bulletin board systems, cartographics (right?), etc.)
- More stations have same kind of trouble; already affected ones are getting worse
- Unusual spike (considered of obviously artificial nature) in price for UAs
I think UAs (or their masters, by operating UAs remotely) hacked our bubble's stock exchange and spiked the price in order to make us bring even more UAs to make more stations infected and/or completely overtake already infected stations.
upd: If they hacked stock exchange that is (based on current state of things in our real world) equipped with the most protected, advanced and fastest computers and technology we have, then they surely have access everywhere else we have on computers
If it's true we have to put whole Galnet offline and only share data, by physically moving data canisters around, and we need to do it right now, before it's too late. Or a big chunk of our own stations (with their big weapons) will be under some alien (AI?) control
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You know I've been thinking about this a bit. On the subject of Thargoids using morse code which doesn't make sense since we have had contact with them and established common language through the Universal Translator.
What if .. .again this is what if.. these are Thargoids using morse because that's the only thing they know about Humans?
May be a bit far fetched here but Michael Brookes said that the Thargoids are wondering what happened to their scouting party. A bit of an unsettling prospect but what if the main Thargoid force didn't know anything about what happened to their "scouts" and so never learned about the war, virus, peace and universal translator. This is probably because they somehow became isolated from the scout group.
So they send out these UA probe thingies that know morse (which I presume they learned from us prior to sending the scout/diplomatic party)..... the big issue here is now we have to deal with pretty much MOST of the Thargoid race who is going to want a pretty big explanation as to what happened to their scouting force and I'm assuming a big apology for attempting genocide that is if of course they don't go ID4 an every single human installation in sight once they get a whiff of just how rotten Humans can be... remember captain hero "melt them down"?
That's my theory on it anyway one that has a second part which I'm still trying to think about and that is the fate of the remainder of the scouting party which is now nowhere to be seen...
That one can get interesting because this is where FD can slip in a third element that may have finished off the last of the scouts and is doing one heck of a job at putting all the blame on us for it and also letting the main Thargoids know about all the nice things we did to their scout party.
That would make for a great story because you got the big bad Thargoids... obviously fighting them while having to prove we aren't so bad it was a misunderstanding and a third party or race in the background stirring things for their own powerplay... sorry strategic gain. Sounds better to me then the Thargoids are on the run because the Megatroids (which are way more powerful then them) are kicking their green butts around the galaxy and need our puny help.
Thoughts?
What if .. .again this is what if.. these are Thargoids using morse because that's the only thing they know about Humans?
May be a bit far fetched here but Michael Brookes said that the Thargoids are wondering what happened to their scouting party. A bit of an unsettling prospect but what if the main Thargoid force didn't know anything about what happened to their "scouts" and so never learned about the war, virus, peace and universal translator. This is probably because they somehow became isolated from the scout group.
So they send out these UA probe thingies that know morse (which I presume they learned from us prior to sending the scout/diplomatic party)..... the big issue here is now we have to deal with pretty much MOST of the Thargoid race who is going to want a pretty big explanation as to what happened to their scouting force and I'm assuming a big apology for attempting genocide that is if of course they don't go ID4 an every single human installation in sight once they get a whiff of just how rotten Humans can be... remember captain hero "melt them down"?
That's my theory on it anyway one that has a second part which I'm still trying to think about and that is the fate of the remainder of the scouting party which is now nowhere to be seen...
That one can get interesting because this is where FD can slip in a third element that may have finished off the last of the scouts and is doing one heck of a job at putting all the blame on us for it and also letting the main Thargoids know about all the nice things we did to their scout party.
That would make for a great story because you got the big bad Thargoids... obviously fighting them while having to prove we aren't so bad it was a misunderstanding and a third party or race in the background stirring things for their own powerplay... sorry strategic gain. Sounds better to me then the Thargoids are on the run because the Megatroids (which are way more powerful then them) are kicking their green butts around the galaxy and need our puny help.
Thoughts?
I came across one as bait the other night in the Ships beta. Haven't seen one in Horizons beta yet.
Well we don't know if the Thargoids that we killed with virus are completely cured. Maybe our vaccine just cured symptoms, but they still carry the virus in their genome (or blood, or somewhere). So they had to isolate themselves completely from main group, because they still not sure in long term effects of this virus on their species.
But this doesn't explain why they wouldn't communicate with main hive. Maybe virus changed their behavior somehow and now they are more individualistic species, rather than hive entity.
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Individualistic Thargoids... I like that possibility A LOT. If I met one named Hugh I'd be happier than a pig in sh...slop.
It wasn't a virus, it was a fungus. And it attacked Thargoid hyper-drives, not the Thargoids them self.
Interesting points though.
I would have thought Seven would have increased the happy factor by an exponential magnitude.
I would have thought Seven would have increased the happy factor by an exponential magnitude.
But of course... I was going for a more obscure reference but also the possibility for a male minority (within the Thargoid race) uprising. You know what I say if you're going to throw the whole universe to hell you might as well preclude the benefit of the handbasket.
Also as far as LZ's article. I love how it completely neglects the fact that people are smuggling UAs not selling them. I think you sell something and you're going to an open free market... smuggling involves a black market
You're not entirely right about this. Here's a quote from ''Thargoids-the-definitive-guide'' by Drew Wagar
So Thargoids themselves were killed (''affected'') by our virus, not only their organic drives
I've just read the News letter #102
I'm wondering if this is some sort of hint. I've highlighted the parts of interest especially the part about scanning and sending messages taking decades. Could this be referring to the UAs seemingly sending morse code across space by, what appears to be, a radio signal?
So, if it is a hint then are they saying that the UAs are from several hundred years ago by the old human explorers who have been dropping radio beacons which point to a location where they are, a bit like a the Voyager probes?
I'm wondering if this is some sort of hint. I've highlighted the parts of interest especially the part about scanning and sending messages taking decades. Could this be referring to the UAs seemingly sending morse code across space by, what appears to be, a radio signal?
So, if it is a hint then are they saying that the UAs are from several hundred years ago by the old human explorers who have been dropping radio beacons which point to a location where they are, a bit like a the Voyager probes?
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