UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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I was going through the list of shut down stations to see if I could find a pattern, and noticed that all of them said "no commodities market," except for Lobachevsky Outpost in Pic Tok, for which I didn't have system data. So, I decided to go there, expecting to see a shut down station... but it seems to be up and running again...
 
Research & Supply Vessel GNOSIS The Canonn Capital Ship

Just finished the pixel art for the new banner :D
The RSV Gnosis is primed, shined, and ready for her maiden Voyage.
Onward, to Merope!
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Enoch has rolled out the welcome mat
Don't be shy, he's not really an AI
Welcome aboard, Commander!
 
Remember to non go to Merope before Horizons official launch, or you'll need to go back to a Station to outfit a Scarab... and Maia has no outfitting ;)

I've already parked my Asp "Alice in Wonderland", with an UA in hold, in 49 Arietis (the Outpost, not the shut down Station), waiting for Horizons...
 
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Enoch has rolled out the welcome mat
Don't be shy, he's not really an AI
Welcome aboard, Commander!

And behold the Canonn called him Enoch the AI..... Then the Lord Arcanonn said to him: Enoch, AI of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty Nebulae, and their holy everlasting station around Merope who have been polluted with scientists ..... tell them to eat Biscuits ... not Tacos

And there was much rejoicing
 
Remember to non go to Merope before Horizons official launch, or you'll need to go back to a Station to outfit a Scarab... and Maia has no outfitting ;)

I've already parked my Asp "Alice in Wonderland", with an UA in hold, in 49 Arietis (the Outpost, not the shut down Station), waiting for Horizons...
It should have Outfitting when it goes live. We did get that in the CG, Shipyard was the one we missed out on.
 
It should have Outfitting when it goes live. We did get that in the CG, Shipyard was the one we missed out on.

Mmmm yes, perhaps you are right... I remember going there some days ago, in beta, and don't remember about an Outfitting. Have to check again.
 
Mmmm yes, perhaps you are right... I remember going there some days ago, in beta, and don't remember about an Outfitting. Have to check again.

I think it still makes sense that you outfit before going to Maia. Don't want to fly all the way there and find out all they have are cup-holders and fluffy dice.
 
I think it still makes sense that you outfit before going to Maia. Don't want to fly all the way there and find out all they have are cup-holders and fluffy dice.

I agree. I also think that there may be interesting things to find on the ground whitin the UA shell. The shell has been dense with UAs for a few months. Perhaps a few have landed?
 
This is why doing stuff in Beta is silly. What happens in Beta stays in Beta...
Except that all those Cmdrs doing stuff in Beta and finding all the broken bits for FDev to fix are the reason that when we go live it'll all work pretty much as expected - or at least nearer to as expected than would have been the case without their efforts :)
 
Except that all those Cmdrs doing stuff in Beta and finding all the broken bits for FDev to fix are the reason that when we go live it'll all work pretty much as expected - or at least nearer to as expected than would have been the case without their efforts :)

Oh, don't get me wrong. Testing stuff out in Beta is what Beta is for. I even wiped my save and started out in Baker's Propect with a Sidey. Made around 40K just popping out for half an hour and dropping by POIs and picking up Gold and Personal weapons.

First thing to do when loaded: Deploy Buggy, watch the camera spawn below the floor of the docking bay before popping into position in your cockpit, then leaving the bay (usually bay 4) and requesting docking only to be guided to bay 256!!! :eek: There's only a dozen bays in the port!

I'm just saying that trying to do serious stuff in Beta and saying this is what it's going to be like is just gonna frustrate you... :)
 
Alright, that's done it now. Grand total of 210 UAs sold to my secret station over the last month or so, after bringing in 37 of the suckers tonight. The poor ol' faction I'm selling to has gone into economic bust to boot... all those black-market sales!

Even made a PB tonight! Good warmup if my CG submission gets off the ground (FD haven't said no yet... )
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Of course, this is all kinda for nothing if nothing happens to this station. So I've got a little plan in store... once the update goes live, I'll make sure to get it, then announce what station I've been selling to via a Galnet article... see if I can't shake some trees ;)

Have a surprise in the works which'll be a nice tie-in to the CG if it happens, failing that, it'll hopefully be a nice standalone "thing".

EDIT: Make that 222. Just sold another 12... I'm an addict...
 
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nevermind. math is cool. if one were looking for a system in that vector, at 722.4 ly out for example, it'd be at approximately sector (-18:-691:-210). This of course depends on how accurately I estimated the coordinates of Tau Ceti from the galaxy map, which I said was (-3:-11.5:-3.5)

Why estimate? Get the exact coordinates from eddb.io or one of the other sites using the data from edsm.net. The coordinates are (-0.375, -11.40625, -3.5).
 
Are you saying that that equation is wrong? Because KellyR is right if we assume that 0.6c is the speed of the ship as observed from outside the ship. The thing you're talking about is length contraction, not time dilation, although the two are related.

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No, you are wrong ;)

The answer is much simpler. I'm an idiot.

I was referring to time dilation, and I was claiming that the equation was wrong (well, the values were wrong, due to time dilation). But, like I said, I appear to have had my head up my own backside. See, for some reason I'm having trouble understanding now, I applied the time dilation in such a way as to reduce the amount of time the Generation Ships had been flying. I've duly rep'ed the offended parties as part of my punishment ;)

Sorry, special relativity was one of my favs in undergrad.

And as I've said here before, I never really liked it. I think a large part of it was the way we were taught it. SR is extremely exciting and I had expected (and still expect) to like it. Concepts I only learned later on would have been extremely helpful at the time and probably enabled me to enjoy SR as much as I felt I should have. Fundamentally, I still don't feel any SR textbook I've ever seen handles the "clock postulate", instead resorting to a whole lot of handwaving.

In this particular context, which is pretty much (half) the classic Twin (non-)Paradox, for example, pretty much every SR text will completely handwave what happens during the acceleration and deceleration. Neither of the two "original" underpinning postulates of SR cover, for example, what the speed of light is during acceleration. (For reference, the two postulates are: 1) The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. 2) The speed of light is constant in all inertial frames of reference.). Some texts even claim that the clock postulate (or, indeed, the invariance of the Minkowski line element) is a result of General Relativity, while it is in fact an assumption upon which it is based (wherefore using it to derive such an invariance is circular logic at its best).

No, SR was never really my cup of tea. I can honestly say that I've always found quantum physics much more intuitive.
 
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(Go away for the weekend and the thread falls off the front page for the first time in who knows how long, "only" 4 pages to catch up on)

No, you are wrong ;)

The answer is much simpler. I'm an idiot.

I was referring to time dilation, and I was claiming that the equation was wrong (well, the values were wrong, due to time dilation). But, like I said, I appear to have had my head up my own backside. See, for some reason I'm having trouble understanding now, I applied the time dilation in such a way as to reduce the amount of time the Generation Ships had been flying. I've duly rep'ed the offended parties as part of my punishment ;)



And as I've said here before, I never really liked it. I think a large part of it was the way we were taught it. SR is extremely exciting and I had expected (and still expect) to like it. Concepts I only learned later on would have been extremely helpful at the time and probably enabled me to enjoy SR as much as I felt I should have. Fundamentally, I still don't feel any SR textbook I've ever seen handles the "clock postulate", instead resorting to a whole lot of handwaving.

In this particular context, which is pretty much (half) the classic Twin (non-)Paradox, for example, pretty much every SR text will completely handwave what happens during the acceleration and deceleration. Neither of the two "original" underpinning postulates of SR cover, for example, what the speed of light is during acceleration. (For reference, the two postulates are: 1) The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. 2) The speed of light is constant in all inertial frames of reference.). Some texts even claim that the clock postulate (or, indeed, the invariance of the Minkowski line element) is a result of General Relativity, while it is in fact an assumption upon which it is based (wherefore using it to derive such an invariance is circular logic at its best).

No, SR was never really my cup of tea. I can honestly say that I've always found quantum physics much more intuitive.

'ELBI remains a somewhat inexact science, because receiving stations are placed so far apart that considerations of simultaneity become an issue in interpreting the results'' :rolleyes:
 
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