UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

[Vasious]

No, it's a bug.

Michael

Ah well, at least that closes Operation Hansel and Gretel

 

[knowles2]

I have no desire to be "spoon fed" clues- I do, however, feel the need to see the things this marvelous bunch has uncovered actually lead anywhere, or be tied together somehow.
The way it is now, we have:
-the UA
-the UA's pointing at Merope
-the Shell
-the planet naming
-the ship drawing
-possibly barnacles

There might be something on the planets around Merope, but it's a hunch. Nothing the UA has done really indicates why it's pointing to the system.
(I'm still mucking about the planets there, looking)
There's been no new situation with the shell radius.
There's been no new UA behaviour.

Feels like a bunch of clues, but none really leading anywhere. Are we missing something? Have we reached the maximum amount of possible understanding with the available info?
One of the reasons I was excited for 1.5 was the possibility of new discoveries.

And now, the T series isn't even special anymore.
I'm frustrated. Not angry, not demanding, really not wanting to come across as a whiny downer.
So- sorry if my complaining is bringing anyone down, really.

Personally, I think Palin's CG might yield new info.

Don't forget the UA are now disabling stations and with them being use as weapons by powerplay fractions.

An that where we are stuck, I suspect the next clue to the UA mystery will only be given to use or will become obvious to us after we figure out how to heal stations.

 

[Julio Montega]

UA dropped on Merope 2D,
unrecoverable due to terrain.

Coords:
17.9632°
-131.7672°
23:1O GMT+1 17th dec 2O15
UA just destroyed itself.

Edit:
I hate the low altitude mechanics of Horizons.
My ship is doing the weird-8-gimbal move at O.2 Gs....

Edit2:

UA did not attach to asteroid.
UA did nothing special close to Merope's sun.
UA did not attach to rocky planet Merope 2D.
No shipwrecks found.


So did the UA just erode down to 0% or how did it kill itself? I just made a 6:30 long voice recording and the artifact stayed at 100%

Dropped from ship, did decay on it's own, normal behaviour, like dropping it in space.
NO SRV involved.

 

[clavain]

YA it seemed like a bug - was good to let us know tho. We seem to invent enough blind alleys ourselves

It would have been good if he had let us know when the question was first asked - not weeks or months later. I suppose that is an improvement (in FD's view anyways) on not answering at all, as with the Voyagers.

 

[EAGLE 5]

nobody

Given a certain movie, release the proper answer is.... I'm no one

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

So if you drop it from SRV UA has infinite lifespan?

Also, despite the how-to trailer on youtube concerning the UA morse deciphering I seem to be a total noob as my spectrometric view gives me a blank sheet. If anyone happens to be intreseted in a recording just tell me and I'll send it over.

 

[rizal72]

Dropped from ship, did decay on it's own, normal behaviour, like dropping it in space.
NO SRV involved.

If I remember well, if dropped from ship, it decays. If from SRV it stays 100%. Tested in beta.
I'm in Maia B2 B A.

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So if you drop it from SRV UA has infinite lifespan?

Also, despite the how-to trailer on youtube concerning the UA morse deciphering I seem to be a total noob as my spectrometric view gives me a blank sheet. If anyone happens to be intreseted in a recording just tell me and I'll send it over.

It depends on the recording. What is it about? What ship? Space, Planet? And so on...

 

[Gorgonaut]

Don't forget the UA are now disabling stations and with them being use as weapons by powerplay fractions.

An that where we are stuck, I suspect the next clue to the UA mystery will only be given to use or will become obvious to us after we figure out how to heal stations.

That is a very good point- one I neglected to mention, and incidentally- the element with the most momentum at the present.

If the meta-alloys are the result of UA metal conversion, I wonder what controls the process..

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

The ship is ASP but I dropped the UA from SRV on Peregrina's only planet with a station.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Could it correlate to some station that buys them for highest price and the further you're away from it the lesser is the price?

Mmm, don't remember anyone trying to plot the selling price against station to see if there's a pattern. Presumably since most sales were on the BM we don't have the data, but could be an interesting experiment.

 

[Kyp Shard]

Ordinary sounds of Morse.
On the scanner, like sound of the ship.

On the scanner - do you mean the sound the scanner makes for different materials? Are you saying it makes the same sound as your ship does, or crashed ships, canisters etc, i.e. metal stuff?

Because I'm planning to listen to a UA from the buggy to find out exactly that, and you could save me the bother.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

When i reflect the whole story on the UA being found first,
it didn't really require a special module to do so, right?
They were spotted in convoys, given you didn't know one was present,
until the discovery of the "weird" comm lines the transporter chatted.

So basically every player was able to obtain them.
Without cargo scanners, limpets and so on.
Then it was discovered they did point to merope,
where they still can be found in a pattern around it in S.S.S.es.

Now i see the horizon release has most players enthusiastic on the idea,
we find the next step to the UA-riddle on ground,
but i don't think so.
Wouldn't the designer want this community effort be carried on by everyone, horizon-purchase or not?
I don't think a SRV-bay is required, nor that the next clue is planetside.

It also is funny, that Horizons is released in this time of the year,
although logical (monetary reasons) wise.
But this leads me to think, we are in the
Advent of Horizons.

I think i put those things on my todo-list today:
- check merope's sun with ua
- check wreckages in space with ua
- check distress calls
- sell ua in maia later on
- check if i can resolve planet names without explo-gear and ua

I like your thinking. Do we know what (if any) new metals/minerals have been introduced in 1.5? It may be that the answer to the corrosion problem lies in something which is available in (some) stations without looking on the planet surface. However the UAs are clearly pointing at Merope which strongly suggests there is some important aspect of them to be find on the surface.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

On the scanner - do you mean the sound the scanner makes for different materials? Are you saying it makes the same sound as your ship does, or crashed ships, canisters etc, i.e. metal stuff?

Because I'm planning to listen to a UA from the buggy to find out exactly that, and you could save me the bother.



It sounds like metal stuff. Like your ship, yes.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Energy..........outposts, settlements.........generators..........energy depleted UA's......... Tinfoil Hat........

Hi folks, sorry for my long absence, however I have followed you crazy scientists with great enthusiasm daily for months. o7 to you all. And so many new people. Great to see. Now before I get the chance to fire up my DBE engines and head out to join you all again some thoughts I have had whilst reading pages upon pages of fantastic theories. It seems to be a rough consensus that the affected stations are due to sales of mass UA's being the cause. However is it also possible that the presence of so many UA's in one location are sending a signal back to their creators that triggers a second phase for the UA's. I for one plan to check if the stations affected by the UA's point in any certain direction out in the Galaxy that may be sending a trail for the persons/entities that made them.

Also something that seems rather suspicious in its absence is the lack of attention from the major powers to tracking down the truth behind the UA's. Surely there would be some sort of shift by a major power to want ownership and control of a mystery that the entire Galaxy is affected by. For example, bases or outposts cropping up in a certain system that would give one power the edge over all the others in the race for tech and science. Or even a shiny new station perhaps.

I believe we are searching for an outpost or settlement that has been taken over by nefarious means on a planets surface. Somewhere far from the main star of the system and on the dark side of the planet. And also knowing FD's love of leaving clues in their trailers the possibility that other clips in the trailer may have been intended as clues also.

Enough rambling, I am back with my Tinfoil Hat.
o7

I seem to remember a Galnet post about a hidden/secret (military?) research base- does anybody remember that?

 

[Gorgonaut]

"check if i can resolve planet names without explo-gear and ua"

Wait, I think I might have accidentally tried that.
I went from Founder's World to Merope without UA, and (accidentally) without explo-gear.
I landed on more than one planet (The last one was in Merope system), and not only did the ship abstain from resolving the name of a planet, I couldn't even target it.
Or am I grossly misunderstanding?
(Too much Cpt Fett's Space Rum)

 

[Don Alvarez]

Now i see the horizon release has most players enthusiastic on the idea,
we find the next step to the UA-riddle on ground,
but i don't think so.
Wouldn't the designer want this community effort be carried on by everyone, horizon-purchase or not?
I don't think a SRV-bay is required, nor that the next clue is planetside.

I would think FDEV would rather want to sell as many copies of Horizons as possible. The UA riddle is powerful incentive.

 

[Han_Zen]

I like your thinking. Do we know what (if any) new metals/minerals have been introduced in 1.5? It may be that the answer to the corrosion problem lies in something which is available in (some) stations without looking on the planet surface. However the UAs are clearly pointing at Merope which strongly suggests there is some important aspect of them to be find on the surface.

Stations must be cured with comodities. Materals can't be sold.

I think we first find the material combo that stop UA damage to ships, then we find the same stuff in comodities.

 

[yoda711]

I seem to remember a Galnet post about a hidden/secret (military?) research base- does anybody remember that?

not sure if it was a galnet post or not, but there was mention of a secret asteroid base in Alioth, from where the mycoid cure was stolen.

See entry for 3252 and 3253: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Elite_Timeline

Is that to what you were referring?

 

[Julio Montega]

Wait, I think I might have accidentally tried that.
I went from Founder's World to Merope without UA, and (accidentally) without explo-gear.
I landed on more than one planet (The last one was in Merope system), and not only did the ship abstain from resolving the name of a planet, I couldn't even target it.
Or am I grossly misunderstanding?
(Too much Cpt Fett's Space Rum)

Yarrr!
Please note i scanned the systems in the Pleiades in a prior iteration of E: D.
To see the bodies in a system you need a d-scanner.
Simple test conducted:
- flew to an unknown body
- no scanners on board
- ua on board
- was able to start the test-scan in SC while UA was on board
- dropped to normal space, jettisoned UA
- still able to conduct scan.

The UA is not granting me scanning abilities.
That one is from the table.

Stations must be cured with comodities. Materals can't be sold.

I think we first find the material combo that stop UA damage to ships, then we find the same stuff in comodities.

While i was still in the beta i found some new commodities in the salvageable wreckage sites.
Checking out Merope did not reveal any sites, apart from a single stray S.S.S. with a battle inside,
that is the same scheme as an S.S.S. in 1.4.

New commodity i found was "Wreckage parts".

I would think FDEV would rather want to sell as many copies of Horizons as possible. The UA riddle is powerful incentive.

I do not think alike.
The riddle is something to spend time and money on,
something that might take another year to be finished with each phase started manually.
I rather see it as a side task, for people interested in science and more importantly
mysticism.

RAXXLA is not for the disbelievers,
science will not reveal the true nature.
It does ask too much questions about possibility,
yet RAXXLA contradicts scientific beliefs.

A place that is not a place.

The UA might reveal something about another species,
maybe allow us the contact, but what is a simple lifeform
compared to infinite possibilities?
The power to meet yourself in person,
to travel by thought, imagine it.

Read these lines and test yourself

Spoiler

Who is "I" without a past?
A river without a source?
An event without a cause?
Threads of different lengths
Some longer, some shorter
So many of them spun together

 

[Gorgonaut]

I just had a thought:

"Professor Ishmael Palin, the scientist leading research into the Unknown Artefacts, has announced plans to establish a new research outpost on Maia B1 BA in the Maia system."

It's supposed to be far away from the general population.

Seems to me this controversial research outpost -conveniently placed outside the populated areas (yet still practically close)- might be setting up to become the Barnacle Building (Barnacle compound? Barnpound?) when the alien research inevitably goes horribly wrong.

My guess would be: It gets transformed into a meta-alloy structure or entity in a month or two