UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Dommarraa

Dommarraa
People seem to have been a bit spoiled by the easily found and identified ua discoverys of 1.4. If you cast your minds back to 1.3, a Cmdr could spend 100 hours hunting in the correct places and still not even get a whiff of a ua.

If you don't hunt, you won't find anything.
If you do hunt, I can say with high certainty that you STILL won't find anything, but with enough people hunting, somebody will.

There are no clues, if you think you have found one, unless you are totally correct in your hunch, you are just restricting the chances of a discovery rather than increasing it.

Hunt as you will, follow your nose. Together we will find something, but it will NOT be easy, quick, or logical
 

RedWizzard

RedWizzard
Atrox Lux said:
I am giving up too.

"They are easily machined, but as yet cannot be manufactured, only found in space."

After the UA T-series debacle, this is yet another little issue due to poor communication, or lack thereof :(

After wasting a countless amount of time and almost dying, looking in SSS, USS and WSS (for barnacles), as well as on planets (for unknown bases and barnacles), I have discovered, the barnacles (which definately exist) are only found on planets, as points of interest (POI).

ONLY found on planets, not "ONLY found in space". :rolleyes:

The in-game description is very clear. Space only. Not planets.
The surface of a planet is not generally regarded as space. WSS, USS etc and asteroid fields/belts are space, but that is not where you will find them. The description should have read "only found on planets" or even "airless planets".
The fact that we weren't told what the green structures in the video were, added to this confusion. Like xdeath said "symptom of poor communication as a result of trying to be vague and esoteric".

Initially, I had found out about the barnacles existence, entirely accidentally, whilst looking for something totally unrelated (bobbleheads!). It is such a time sink searching a system, then even a small part of just one planet, nevermind signal sources, in frustration, I went back to my original source and found out what I now know. I had wasted my time for nothing.
I have since stopped looking in all senses, and to be honest I no longer care. For both the reason above and reasons below. If you can't be bothered reading, just go straight to the bit at the bottom. I really won't mind.

A while back I made an overly sarcastic post (sorry :p) asking why, in all seriousness, would FD pull an all nighter finishing the trailer to Horizons and include a creepy teaser of space barnacles, when a huge number of people, including myself, are wishing for Thargoids, as evidenced by the number of people texting during the live stream. It now looks like that's exactly what they did. Space barnacles! :eek:
Thargoids? Terrifying and intrinsically linked with Elite...not one sign of them.

My only reason for searching for the barnacles was to glean more info with relation to the Thargoids. For me that is now a dead end. I still stand by my theory that the barnacles are brought in, originally, on the hulls of Thargoid ships, not that it matters anymore. There are other things for you to discover, when you discover them, but I'm not going to spoil that for you. You can see when you find them yourself.
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So let me get this straight. You're saying that searching for stuff is really boring and grindy but now that you've found something you're "not going to spoil it for us"? If you've found something then post a screenshot and tell us what you know. Frankly the above sort of post is just annoying.

Edit: and by "tell us what you know" I mean evidence, not conclusions. Conclusions are worthless without the evidence as they can't be evaluated. And a lot of people will prefer to draw their own conclusions.
 
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rizal72

rizal72
HIP 19382 Planet B1.
I'm AFK. Could someone go and check?
Btw, I'm wondering how did he found that needle in an haysack...

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CarnbY said:
I'd also like to know this... I finally decided to go look for one, but no luck yet. Are they found in USS'es?
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SSS in systems between 135 and 150 Ly from Merope.
 
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knowles2

K
RedWizzard said:
So let me get this straight. You're saying that searching for stuff is really boring and grindy but now that you've found something you're "not going to spoil it for us"? If you've found something then post a screenshot and tell us what you know. Frankly the above sort of post is just annoying.

Edit: and by "tell us what you know" I mean evidence, not conclusions. Conclusions are worthless without the evidence as they can't be evaluated. And a lot of people will prefer to draw their own conclusions.
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I bet they hack the game files. It just read like one of those posts from people who hack games instead of playing them, all I got stuck in the game but instead of trying to solve it in game I'm going to hack the game and get all of the answers. His original source is probably someone who actually did the hacking part.
 
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rizal72

rizal72
knowles2 said:
I bet they hack the game files. It just read like one of those posts from people who hack games instead of playing them, all I got stuck in the game but instead of trying to solve it in game I'm going to hack the game and get all of the answers. His original source is probably someone who actually did the hacking part.
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Not want to assume anything, but that was the first thought that came to my mind...
 
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RedWizzard

RedWizzard
rizal72 said:
HIP 19382 Planet B1.
I'm AFK. Could someone go and check?
Btw, I'm wondering how did he found that needle in an haysack...
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Against my better judgement I'll take a look. I'm not even sure he's saying he found something there. I think maybe he's just saying that's a "100% metal planet" and he didn't find anything on it.
 

Qubit

Q
Rgconner said:
Normally, co-relation is not causation, however...

Gabriel Station in Harma went down in less than 24 hrs after we White Templars started flooding the market with UA.

That implies a very very strong correlation indeed.

The other activities, namely jousting with the few pirates that showed up, we have done before with no ill effect.

I cannot prove there is no other way to shut a station down, but proving negatives is impossible.
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Ok, we can test this theory pretty much conclusively:

  1. Organise a group of players (probably the more the better) for this test
  2. Pick two unaffected stations with a black markets at random (do not mention this anywhere on the forums, or reddit, etc)
  3. Pick a start date time (in GMT)
  4. Tell the group of players verbally over TeamSpeak the first target system and station.
  5. Sell as many UA's as possible over a 24 hour period. (It's probably bets to keep a tally somewhere of the number of UA's sold)
  6. Tell the group of players verbally over TeamSpeak the second target system and station.
  7. Sell as many UA's as possible over a 24 hour period. (Again keeping a separate tally)
  8. Wait a maximum of one week to see if the stations go down
  9. Once the week is up, post the two stations targetted, the number of UA's sold to each station, whether the were affected

If both stations go down then it is almost certainly a group of players selling UA's is required.
If one station goes down then it is most likely a group of players selling UA's + some other factor
If none of the stations go down then it is some other factor and the selling of UA's is more coincedental (or, just used as a minor factor)
 

Gorgonaut

Gorgonaut
I don't know whether this is known, or even a common occurrence, but here's something interesting I found last night:

I was cruising around in the buggy/SRV, when I heard a faint sound on the scanner. So faint, in fact, that I thought it was simply a sound effect of the scanner itself. Still, I made sure I had packed my tea and biscuits, and set off for the signal. I had to stop often, just to hear the faint sound over the noise of the tires, even at low speeds. I almost gave up several times, thinking it was just my sleep-deprived mind playing tricks on me. It didn't help that the signal covered the entirety of the scanner for a long time. The only way for me to disprove it as background noise was to frequently check the edges of the signal for aural inconsistency.

From far away, the sound resembled the sound of a dot-matrix printer.

However, after covering ground at a steady space for 20 minutes, the signal grew clearer and clearer, until it became quite audible, even at regular cruising speed.
The interesting thing here was that amongst the layers of sounds, there was definite morse. Now, I can't tell if this was actual morse, or a "generic morse-like sound" for effect, but it was there.
By this time, the sound was like the buzzing of many, tiny bees in the cargo hold.

Regretfully, I could not record the sound, but I screencapped the scanner when the morse-like sound kicked in, and of my discovery.

TL;DR:
Possible morse in wave-scanner. Found broken SRV.
Location: within the bubble, Anali system.
All in all, the SRV got detected from several km away.
This might help with finding outher points of interest:)

Again, I don't know if this is common, or even a dead end, but I thought it was interesting.
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Gorgonaut

Gorgonaut
Jmanis said:
From when I was playing beta, that was a fairly standard signal for SRVs, Sentries and other planetary-vehicle wrecks. I encountered this kinda thing twice during Beta. I think some have cargo you recover and can then get missions from.
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I figured it was a standard thing, but what really interested me was the possible morse. Might be a way to tell things apart, or it might not.
 

Allant Doran

Allant Doran
I genuinly think anyone who is getting frustrated has forgotten how hard UAs were to find in 1.3.

Hell, aren't there rumours that they were added in 1.2 but were never found?

If you're not enjoying the search, that could take months, then you are not cut out for *that* kind of exploring. By all means stay involved, come up with ideas and help people analyse findings. Just don't assume its bugged or that we should get more clues from FD. We absolutely should not, *yet*.
 

CaptainKremmen

CaptainKremmen
Allant Doran said:
I genuinly think anyone who is getting frustrated has forgotten how hard UAs were to find in 1.3.

Hell, aren't there rumours that they were added in 1.2 but were never found?

If you're not enjoying the search, that could take months, then you are not cut out for *that* kind of exploring. By all means stay involved, come up with ideas and help people analyse findings. Just don't assume its bugged or that we should get more clues from FD. We absolutely should not, *yet*.
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Indeed. If every man and his dog trip over "new" things in under a week, they are neither rare nor special! :)
 

Special Circumstances

S
OK. Talking of new things. I think I have found something interesting. No idea if it's related to UAs or how common it is, but here goes...

I was on Maia B1BA trying to see what I could find. It is Very Dark there. Nothing in particular, but lots of useful materials. While I was there I came across an undefended data point. I snaffled the data of course, but as I was leaving the lit area (and this is possibly a bug) I noticed some green flashes coming from Maia B1B. They were only visible when in the floodlit area of the data point, and vanished into the darkness when I left. That's probably a rendering issue, but as they were green I thought... hrmm... I'll check that out anyway.

So back to the ship and off to the moon.

Once I get closer I can make out the same areas, now as a rather lovely sandy golden colour. So I landed to have a look around.

Found some new materials, great, so not a wasted trip then.

And then a signal on the scanner, the sort of Shippy/Wreckagey signal and went to have a look.
Whatever it was was hidden in it's own mini crater, with a sentry (easily dispatched).

What I found, I thought, was interesting....

Can only describe it as a metal hamburger, and it had a data point. Made the most interesting sounds, and to me, I thought, fairly clear morse...

Anyway. I will upload some vid once I crunch it down a little.
 

RedWizzard

RedWizzard
Special Circumstances said:
And then a signal on the scanner, the sort of Shippy/Wreckagey signal and went to have a look.
Whatever it was was hidden in it's own mini crater, with a sentry (easily dispatched).

What I found, I thought, was interesting....

Can only describe it as a metal hamburger, and it had a data point. Made the most interesting sounds, and to me, I thought, fairly clear morse...

Anyway. I will upload some vid once I crunch it down a little.
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It's a crashed nav beacon.
 

Allant Doran

Allant Doran
Special Circumstances said:
OK. Talking of new things. I think I have found something interesting. No idea if it's related to UAs or how common it is, but here goes...

I was on Maia B1BA trying to see what I could find. It is Very Dark there. Nothing in particular, but lots of useful materials. While I was there I came across an undefended data point. I snaffled the data of course, but as I was leaving the lit area (and this is possibly a bug) I noticed some green flashes coming from Maia B1B. They were only visible when in the floodlit area of the data point, and vanished into the darkness when I left. That's probably a rendering issue, but as they were green I thought... hrmm... I'll check that out anyway.

So back to the ship and off to the moon.

Once I get closer I can make out the same areas, now as a rather lovely sandy golden colour. So I landed to have a look around.

Found some new materials, great, so not a wasted trip then.

And then a signal on the scanner, the sort of Shippy/Wreckagey signal and went to have a look.
Whatever it was was hidden in it's own mini crater, with a sentry (easily dispatched).

What I found, I thought, was interesting....

Can only describe it as a metal hamburger, and it had a data point. Made the most interesting sounds, and to me, I thought, fairly clear morse...

Anyway. I will upload some vid once I crunch it down a little.
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Reminds me of a very odd crash site I found on Mercury. It was basically just a large, spherical object that had lots of tiny panels on it. It made it look like a Fly's eye or something. Had one sentry there and a public data point. Scanned it, gave me 6000 credits data ticket in Alliance territory.

Never seen anything like it in the game before but just assumed it was a fancy satellite. I'd like to see yours so I can compare what you found compared to what I found :)
I'll be out in Maia later today so hopefully I can find something similar myself.


- Side Note -

I'm also enjoying the War of the Worlds-esque thing we have going on here, particularly the Jeff Wayne musical;
''The leaden sky was lit by green flashes, cylinder following cylinder, and noone and nothing was left to fight them. The Earth belong to the Martians! (Thargoids?)''

;)
 
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