UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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I'm pretty sure the structures shown in the trailer are barnacles. They are the source of meta-allow obviously.

I'm currently trying to find them as they are "common in certains part of space", but we don't know where...
Does anybody have a screenshot of the meta-alloys mission ? Maybe there is some clues in the text ?

This is the only screenshot we have:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=195658&page=375&p=3292255#post3292255

But there is a very important hint in the text: "Search the Galaxy..." :D
 
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...But if you want we can go on debating about naming conventions, instead of go playing to look for these new fascinating content. :D
I don't mind calling them whatever you want, but I find it not very helpful to call them the same as something else from the ED universe. And I'm all for going out there and trying to find them. I only wish I could but I'm away from my computer until January so all I can do is grumble in the forums about people not naming things properly.

By the way, have you tried flying a Sidewinder* for trading missions? It's the best. It holds so much cargo!

*I like to call T9's Sidewinders. But let's not get too hung up on naming conventions.;)

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I'm pretty sure the structures shown in the trailer are barnacles. They are the source of meta-allow obviously.

Sorry, but why obviously? Am I missing something else again?
 
Because the description of the Meta-Alloys fits with the Beams of the structure I'm seeing in the trailer (A complex lattice structure with large internal voids).
Obviously I'm not 100% sure of this correspondence, but I'm 100% sure that a POI structure called Barnacles is in game. ;)
So, even if we will not find what we are seeing in the trailer, we'll find something about the Barnacles and Meta-Alloys for sure, as a POI, and on planets surface.
That said, you can call it whatever you want. But whatever name you give them, We'll find them eventually. ;)
Or,
given that there is something strange and not common, with a nice Alien look, shown in the trailer and laying on some planet's surface, that means that we can find it in game.

But if you want we can go on debating about naming conventions, instead of go playing to look for these new fascinating content. :D


As far as I can see from the trailer, only the spiky things that stand up from the ground have the green lights. there are at least four of these in the video. I suspect that those are the 'standard barnacles'.

The big structure may be something extra special. It has no lights as far as I can see, but it has a very organic look.



This part of it looks a bit UA like to me.
CaptureStructure.PNG


I don't think we have an all or nothing scenario. The Meta-Alloy description says that large barnacles are common in certain regions. I have a feeling that it referer to the spiky pillars, not the main structure.


Edit: @Jorge. The things in the trailer have no name yet. The barnacles have no picture yet. This is where we stand at the moment. The rest is speculation.
 
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I think we, the UAs and Palin are searching for the same thing.

The UAs know that this thing is located 135-150ly from Merope. They know this because an UA found it. That UA fell out of a human ship and therefor only managed to send a litle bit of data before it expired.

UAs were therefor sent to the Pleiades to locate a spesific star that matched this data.

When it was detrmined that the star was Merope, a bunch more UAs were sent out to the shell. They all point to Merope to check their distance.

Palin has a vauge idea where to search, because he is the one who lost the first UA. He is therefor relocating to the closest inhabited system to his search region.

We as Jmains pointed out, have found a compass and rushed of to the north pole.

Those of us that have been searching in the shell, have mostly been on the side facing civilization.

I don't know if this makes sence? At least the bits sort of fits :)

Mmm, not sure. But I do think that FD have been giving us clues with the location announcements for Palin, so it is worth checking out.
 
"Search any planet and the next one you visit will magically spawn what you're looking for, just like SSs".

DO we know that's not how it works?

Have to say - if this is the mechanic, then there's every chance that you're right.

But it'll be within an, hitherto unknown, area of the galaxy (much like the Merope Shell) - within which the chances of such a spawn goes from 0% to 1%, say.

Hmm... Just thinking. We know that asteroids are modelled in the planet forge, some of which might not all have their origins in the Planetary formation of the local system.

What if 'barnacles' attach themselves to wandering asteroids/chunks of rock, that are captured by systems, and are then 'delivered' to planet surfaces wheb those asteroids fall.
 
"Search any planet and the next one you visit will magically spawn what you're looking for, just like SSs".

DO we know that's not how it works?

I doubt it. It usually works that way for specific NPCs, not items. You will still find black boxes, intel. and other items without taking the mission.
 
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I like that thinking. I'm perfectly happy to head out there soon I think. This Palin CG is incredibly dull. We're not getting anywhere fast with it lol

Like you I turned up in my Asp and rigged it for cargo, and after a couple of runs I went and got my Clipper from Blatrimpe. Rinse, repeat. I'm checking my standings in system on one run, notice my stats, see that I had 111M total assets. I'd been playing in edshipyard with Type 9 builds and noticed the cost of that was 98M. Hmm

So a few hours later, I've sold all my ships, my beautiful Clipper, my lovely Asp, Vulture, Cobras, Vipers, T6, Hauler.. even the Freegle. I'm doing runs for the CG in a Type 9..

Two things.
1. If you thought it was boring before you should try a Type 9. Not only is it slow, its unresponsive too.
2. Even hauling 492T a go I still feel like I'm having no impact. I can *maybe* do 10k/day.. on a good day. I'm at 7.7k currently.

CG is at 847kT collected with 1,010 contributors. (1w 3d remaining)

I feel like a telethon presenter :(
 
Mmm, not sure. But I do think that FD have been giving us clues with the location announcements for Palin, so it is worth checking out.

I'm not sure either, but the upside is that this theory gives two specific regions to search

1. Systems on the line from California Sector HW-W C1-7 to Merope, at a distance between 150 and 135 ly from Merope.

2. Systems on the line from California Sector HW-W C1-7 to LHS 3006, at a distance between 150 and 135 ly from Merope.

It will not be that many systems fitting those criteria. The hope is that at least some Meta-Alloys will start to pop up we we find the right region.
 
I have an idea, someone was given the information that this Barnacles are probably present in a Metal rich planet, why don't we take the list of these metal rich planet and we "attack" all together, with attack I mean go there an start covering all the surface.
This planet by planet until we cover every km.
If I'm correct there are few Metal Rich planet between Merope and Maia and surrounding systems.
What you guys think?
 
Really? And how it shows in the scanner together with planets and stars all around you, while the planet you are orbiting is still showing as a small sphere?
Bitstorm? I'm really interested... because if it's true, than we could perhaps spot the barnacles from OC, assuming them being fixed POIs, even without approaching too much.

For sure we need some clues help to narrow the search; either in-game or from FD. I suspect we won't get any from FD for a long while, but we should have the tools in-game to help us. The 2-second Horizons trailer sequence of the Barnacles has no visible star patterns/nebulae/other clues, just a dark/hazy, & as LZ has pointed out the possible search area per moon is huge. Multiply that by all the moons in all the systems in all the nebulae & we are likely never to find one. So I ask again (nobody responded last time I asked) - is the Detailed Surface Scanner of any help in locating/identifying from orbital cruise POIs or other surface artifacts? I have never used one.
 
For sure we need some clues help to narrow the search; either in-game or from FD. I suspect we won't get any from FD for a long while, but we should have the tools in-game to help us. The 2-second Horizons trailer sequence of the Barnacles has no visible star patterns/nebulae/other clues, just a dark/hazy, & as LZ has pointed out the possible search area per moon is huge. Multiply that by all the moons in all the systems in all the nebulae & we are likely never to find one. So I ask again (nobody responded last time I asked) - is the Detailed Surface Scanner of any help in locating/identifying from orbital cruise POIs or other surface artifacts? I have never used one.
I dont think it will help, detailed scanner works for the mass body only, it analize what kind of system is, star, planet, comet, death star etc .
 
Maybe an A rated scanner is better to find POI however ?

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This planet by planet until we cover every km.

That will be impossible. Surface are too large, we will need billion of players.
 
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For sure we need some clues help to narrow the search; either in-game or from FD. I suspect we won't get any from FD for a long while, but we should have the tools in-game to help us. The 2-second Horizons trailer sequence of the Barnacles has no visible star patterns/nebulae/other clues, just a dark/hazy, & as LZ has pointed out the possible search area per moon is huge. Multiply that by all the moons in all the systems in all the nebulae & we are likely never to find one. So I ask again (nobody responded last time I asked) - is the Detailed Surface Scanner of any help in locating/identifying from orbital cruise POIs or other surface artifacts? I have never used one.

I don't believe they do, unfortunately. That was one of the things I had been wondering myself.

Spent a few hours on merope 5c just jamming around in my SRV. Found a few canyons on the dark side so I explored those for a bit. Only thing I found was some variant of a base. Definitely got my heart racing when I spotted it from a distance (saw a pyramid type shape with a green light and nearly lost my cool)
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Will do some more searching tomorrow. Had an thought come to mind as well regarding finding the meta-alloys. If these are something that has been introduced for 1.5 as well, then I would assume that they 100% can be found in space, right? Maybe WSS or USS in the shell? I know for me personally, I skipped over everything that wasn't an SSS. Gonna head to a system in the morning where I can find a UA, then start searching as many signal sources as I can. My thought is (assume I'm not the only one) wherever we can find the alloys free-floating, we should be able to find the "barnacles" at a body nearby.
 
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That was me :D
10.000 words both in plain text and morse. No answer.



Done as well, not by me. But in this case there are so many possibilities that we gave up.

Riz, to be precise -- I seem to remember you saying (ah yes, 22/11/2015 11:51) that in v1.2 one of your friends HAD gotten a response (a system name, in the COMMS panel, just like any other CMDRs reply) from a UA to his automated bot challenge (but he was away from the game & didnt care about it... ), but his challenge list (which were "words" and "numbers") was based on hacking so you didn't pursue that.

I did ponder & maybe his challenge was something related to Merope/the Pleiades-in constellation of TAURUS, star number? Spectral type B6IVe. Merope is a Beta Cephei variable. Other designations are: Merope, 23 Tau, HR 1156, BD 23° 522, HD 23480, HIP 17608, SAO 76172, GC 4512, CCDM J03463+2357A. Merope Nebula is NGC 1435; but yes, the possibilities are endless
 
Riz, to be precise -- I seem to remember you saying (ah yes, 22/11/2015 11:51) that in v1.2 one of your friends HAD gotten a response (a system name, in the COMMS panel, just like any other CMDRs reply) from a UA to his automated bot challenge (but he was away from the game & didnt care about it... ), but his challenge list (which were "words" and "numbers") was based on hacking so you didn't pursue that.

I did ponder & maybe his challenge was something related to Merope/the Pleiades-in constellation of TAURUS, star number? Spectral type B6IVe. Merope is a Beta Cephei variable. Other designations are: Merope, 23 Tau, HR 1156, BD 23° 522, HD 23480, HIP 17608, SAO 76172, GC 4512, CCDM J03463+2357A. Merope Nebula is NGC 1435; but yes, the possibilities are endless

You are right.
He was not able to produce evidences of the COMMS reply, but he've always been very reliable.
So I really tried with my brute force experiment to produce the same result, with no avail.
Being not even sure if it happened or if FD changed it later, I decided to give up.
BTW, everytime I "meet" an UA, I always try to say something and shake its appendixes :D
 
New patch notes 2.0.0.2

Again: You have checked the map for a target marker? (as this is usual for a lot of missions)
Thanks!

Good idea, but no, there is no target marker for the mission on the galaxy map.


Again the kindly request to Nazdakka for checking after the upgrade as it seems no other CMDR (me included) get these mission:
Patch notes here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=216276&p=3301541&viewfull=1#post3301541

- Extract mission destinations for mission external panel entries so mission icon shows up on galaxy map
Now any new marker? If not then it can only be on the planet/system you have taken the mission ... IMHO

Think all efforts to find something at the surfaces go to square one after this patch notes ....
Merry Christmas!
 
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- is the Detailed Surface Scanner of any help in locating/identifying from orbital cruise POIs or other surface artifacts? I have never used one.

I've been speculating that if the alien bio-metal-alloy is grown and is Thargoid origin perhaps it likes to be in locations where ammonia can be a liquid. I've been looking for places you can land within Musca Dark Region and Coalsack with a surface temperature in the range of 195K - 240K. Found a few places meeting this criteria, didn't find anything but only checked a couple POIs per planet.

A detailed surface scanner gives you scientific surface details that perhaps we need to use to narrow down a search.
 
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