UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Perhaps a controversial opinion but I genuinely believe that games like Fallout 4, Call of Duty etc has instilled a sense of entitlement to a lot of gamers.
Don't get me wrong, those games are quality and serve a niche, but I believe they have lead to the surge of people who feel that if they cannot figure something out within a couple days then there is no reason to bother, or there is no 'real' content.

I still feel like playing a game is the core goal, the source of enjoyment. Not how many quests I can finish, not how many exp bars I can fill to 'max out'. Just playing, making my own fun and finding my own rewards.

The Barnacles are in game. We know this for certain. They are at POIs somewhere in the galaxy. I whole-heartedly feel that FD should NOT give us hints, tips or nudges. Certainly not now and likely not for most of Horizons. Patience and the joy of the hunt is who the UA/Barnacle mystery is aimed at. Not for people who want to put a couple hours in and find results within the week.

Yes the whole "instant gratification" thing, the reason why so many people play those online FPS games where you do the same few maps over and over again, they play for that reason and not for the experience of playing the game and letting it unfold in front of you. sad but each to their own.
 
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The Barnacles are in game. We know this for certain. They are at POIs somewhere in the galaxy. I whole-heartedly feel that FD should NOT give us hints, tips or nudges. Certainly not now and likely not for most of Horizons. Patience and the joy of the hunt is who the UA/Barnacle mystery is aimed at. Not for people who want to put a couple hours in and find results within the week.

Would you mind elaborating a wee bit on the 'Barnacle mystery'?

I was previously referred to a wiki page which told me nothing about the Barnacles unfortunately. Wiki also seems woefully out of date re rarity of UA's as they are currently spawning one every couple of minutes in systems.
 
I'm out of town for the week visiting my ladies family, so I wont be able to contribute much this week. You can only imagine my excitement, sadness, and relief seeing that the barnacle "photo" ended up being a fake. Initial excitement someone found it, then sadness I'd have to wait a week to see it myself, then odd relief seeing it hadnt been found yet, so I can still participate in the barnacle hunt (assuming it still hasnt been found by the time I return home). Good work on the debunking, I'll be following the thread closely!
 
I don't feel any rage at all. I do feel like we are all wasting our time and being drip fed by FD and misled with a pretence the game presently offers something that it doesn't have.

As I said previously, the only real significant and more importantly TANGIBLE thing we have seen re this is the UA.. which was found a Loooooooooong time ago. In that time we have really discoered NOTHING and little has been added. FD are, imo, milking our enthusiasm on this issue (and for many a long term player this is all thats worth playing for) whilst providing ZERO real content for gameplay.

I'll happily eat a sock if I am wrong but as it stands there is nothing to find and we are being deliberately misled to believe there is content in game to find, when in reality there is not.

Perhaps there's scope to take a wider view...

If ED is the latest incarnation of the Elite gaming premise, then there will be Thargoids, and when they appear, it isn't going to be all cucumber sandwiches and cups of tea. Even if they just want to 'make contact' at first, it's a pretty good bet that conflict will arise sooner or later, whether it's instigated by us or them. If they turn up in human space, there will eventually be an invasion or war of some sort.

Before that can happen, the game needs to be sufficiently developed for there to be things like a war effort, organised strategies for attacking and defending, etc. At present, we have a ropey BGS, no player-driven economy or manufacturing of tradable goods, a very primitive clan system, and a mission framework which has somewhat arbitrary offerings (and maybe a few bugs). We do have people out exploring, mining and trading, rather a lot of people involved with combat in various contexts, CGs that focus on mass haulage of goods for specific purposes, and some strange unknown artefacts that behave rather suspiciously.

I can't see there being a Thargoid invasion until the weaker aspects of the platform are better developed. Not all war effort is about shooting things - support and logistics is a big part of it. If there are plans for looting/crafting and first person shooter, then I don't think there will be Thargoids until those at least are in place and working well. Maybe the mission and CG systems will develop further such that they have more effect (better BGS, in other words - missions that have real meaning with regard to the war effort, and CGs that have a real effect on how things develop).

For now, don't expect any Thargoids. Season 2 is about getting the next set of base features in place (planetary landings, loot/craft, beginnings of FPS). Season 3 may well be devoted to further development of the base system (eg, FPS, economy, clans).

Season 4?

At present, we have UAs that have an unknown interest in Merope, and which scan our ships and apparently transmit data about them to an unknown location or receiver. For anyone that's a Thargoid FTB (Foaming True Believer, for those that don't know), it's obvious that these are Thargoid probes. Their destructive properties would seem to be to discourage people from messing about with them. The conclusion that can be drawn so far is that the Thargoids have discovered human space, want to find out more about it, and would prefer to be left alone to get on with gathering information.

If my thinking is correct that they are Thargoid probes, that there will be a war with the Thargoids, and that there is still some development work to be done on the game before a war is feasible, then FD will gradually inject more stuff to keep our interest and suspicions simmering - we might be able to learn more about the UAs, or new objects could be discovered (wrecked Thargoid ships?).

For now, it seems that we need to keep our eyes open, learn as much as we can, and play the long game while development of the base features continues.
 
Would you mind elaborating a wee bit on the 'Barnacle mystery'?

I was previously referred to a wiki page which told me nothing about the Barnacles unfortunately. Wiki also seems woefully out of date re rarity of UA's as they are currently spawning one every couple of minutes in systems.

To be fair I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was referring to the amount of frustration and 'rage quitting' that has been going on here lately.

However, the wiki is not the primary source of what is going on. The Players are. The Wiki is out of date, yes, but given that people take time out of their day to bother updating it, I would never be annoyed by that. It's only out of the goodness of people's efforts that we have as a wiki at all.

As far as the Barnacle mystery goes, I'm referring to the mystery of what they are and where they are. We do not know these things. We only know, through the evil of data mining that they DO exist at POIs.
 
Perhaps a controversial opinion but I genuinely believe that games like Fallout 4, Call of Duty etc has instilled a sense of entitlement to a lot of gamers.
Don't get me wrong, those games are quality and serve a niche, but I believe they have lead to the surge of people who feel that if they cannot figure something out within a couple days then there is no reason to bother, or there is no 'real' content.

I still feel like playing a game is the core goal, the source of enjoyment. Not how many quests I can finish, not how many exp bars I can fill to 'max out'. Just playing, making my own fun and finding my own rewards.

The Barnacles are in game. We know this for certain. They are at POIs somewhere in the galaxy. I whole-heartedly feel that FD should NOT give us hints, tips or nudges. Certainly not now and likely not for most of Horizons. Patience and the joy of the hunt is who the UA/Barnacle mystery is aimed at. Not for people who want to put a couple hours in and find results within the week.

I don't disagree, but I can also totally understand the reason some people would not enjoy what we're doing here. It's worth considering that most stuff still got discovered fairly quickly and that back then games were unaltered after launch. This is a bit of a different case here as we've already invested more time into looking for these than a number of projects to discover old game secrets (even though I only recently started taking part), yet none of us really know just how much the devs are even allowing us to solve yet and what will require them to add the content first.

Whilst I enjoy having the UA mystery being as obtuse as it is, I do think that perhaps having other mysteries to unravel that don't require such through analysis would benefit the players overall and help keep new players invested.
 
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As far as the Barnacle mystery goes, I'm referring to the mystery of what they are and where they are. We do not know these things. We only know, through the evil of data mining that they DO exist at POIs.

Ta

Where do we search? Is there any particular sector/system? Which POI's exactly? Planetside or signal sources or other?

Apologies for the questions - I want to get involved but am exasperated at the lack of info of exactly where to start :)
 
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Ta

Where do we search? Is there any particular sector/system? Which POI's exactly? Planetside or signal sources or other?

Apologies for the questions - I want to get involved but am exasperated at the lack of info of exactly where to start :)
I think the lack of info is kinda the point. if we were solving something in the real galaxy it would not be signposted.
Look at it this way if there was more info i should imagine the main powers would be flooding Galnet with disinformation (because if i was FD it would be a part of the game plan), and then it would be just as hard and possibly even more frustrating. With regards to the Barnacles our only source of frustration there is the size of the galaxy.
 
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Ta

Where do we search? Is there any particular sector/system? Which POI's exactly? Planetside or signal sources or other?

Apologies for the questions - I want to get involved but am exasperated at the lack of info of exactly where to start :)

The only information we have is :

1) The shot in this video ~0:58 :

[video=youtube;VKWIJ-H-WxI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWIJ-H-WxI[/video]

2) The "meta-alloy" commodity that's appeared in the marketplace which you can view yourself in-game :

Meta-alloys have a complex lattice structure with large internal voids. They are cellular in nature, and formed organically. They are incredibly strong - much stronger than foamed aluminium for example. Many elements form the structure so technically they are alloys, but the composition is different in different parts of the cell walls for strength. They are good thermal insulators, and have a high melting point, but if they are melted they lose all their special properties and become a conventional alloy. They are easily machined, but as yet cannot be manufactured, only found in space. They are associated with recently discovered alien entities nicknamed 'Large Barnacles' by interstellar explorers. These appear to be common in certain parts of space, although no-one is certain why. This material has been heralded as the next step in materials technology. It is ultra-light and stronger and more versatile than most commercially available alloys.

and

3) A new mission "strange alloys" or similar asking the CMDR to find 1 x meta-alloys for 450,000 credits with a 1 week timer on it and showing as a planet surface mission.

Probably worth saying it's only *believed* that meta-alloys & large barnacles are related to the bit in the video, they probably are but the link is just inferred.
 
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I think the lack of info is kinda the point......With regards to the Barnacles our only source of frustration there is the size of the galaxy.

Not really.

People like me new to this do not even know what a Barnacle is, never mind how it fits into the greater scheme of things, hence the questions. In any event, never mind, I'll try and figure it all out.

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The only information we have is :

1) The shot in this video ~0:58 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWIJ-H-WxI

2) The "meta-alloy" commodity that's appeared in the marketplace which you can view yourself in-game :



and

3) A new mission "strange alloys" or similar asking the CMDR to find 1 x meta-alloys for 450,000 credits with a 1 week timer on it and showing as a planet surface mission.

Probably worth saying it's only *believed* that meta-alloys & large barnacles are related to the bit in the video, they probably are but the link is just inferred.

Thank you very much :)
 
Think its time i got my self out there and had a look my self for these blooming Barnacles, well right after a get myself a Cobra mkIV so i can have planetary landings and cargo space or its all a bit pointless searching.
On another note i wonder if its worth plotting out the locations of where the Meta Alloys missions turn up there could be some sort of correlation.
 
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I do not remember, if someone let UA to fall on the planet from orbit (freefloater).
If yes, then I am sorry for my inattention.
If not, please someone do it.
I would have done this experiment myself, but I won't be able to play until 5th January.
 
Ta

Where do we search? Is there any particular sector/system? Which POI's exactly? Planetside or signal sources or other?

Apologies for the questions - I want to get involved but am exasperated at the lack of info of exactly where to start :)

If we knew the answer to any if those questions, it would probably be solved by now.
Many people believe that meta alloys have some role to play, and from a mission, we know that they are found on planets. That's about the sum total of current theory.
Some are trying to decode information in the horizon trailer hoping to find the Green stuff, assuming it is meta alloys
 
Can somebody outline what procedure of utter panic to take if we actually find a Barnacle or Meta Alloy ?

I may French kiss my ships cat...

o7

If you find Barn(a/i)cle or Meta-Alloy:

1) Stay calm.
2) Record everything.
3) Do not leave the instance.
4) Make at least 4 screenshots from various angles (from the cockpit).
5) Report here (system, planet, coordinates + screenshots)
6) Wait until Canonn members will arrive.

And try not to touch anything if you are not recording.


7) If you lie - there will be consequences...
 
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I suppose a good place to start would be to accept one of these missions and take it from there.

I've seen a good few of them the last week or so in my travels but have ignored them/not taken note where they were offered as they were meaningless at the time. No bother, I'll find them again :)

Ps: Maybe you need a UA planetside to search/point out the new alloy. Might explain the sudden abundance of UA's.
 
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