UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Thanks to both of you CMDRs! It seems to me the usual random icy planet seen in the past...
Good job!

And happy new year!

Thank you. You too!

Yeah, agreed. Doesn't seem to be anything special here. The convoy hasn't jumped for ages. A few hours well spent though, was pretty tense at times.

Anyway will continue to follow for now, and then back to the drawing board :)
 
Happy New Year everyone!

Still about fifty pages behind... Hoping you guys haven't donned the mystery while I've been on forced leave from my computer. Will be back sometime tomorrow very late after spending 10 days with the in-laws in London.
 
well if it's any help I plotted the malfunctioning stations in 3D. Blue are shut down, Red is having technical issues, and green is the centroid. The red one with the circle is Maia, for reference.

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I just came back today to take a small brake from it.

Nice aid though, are you out there in the area? I can send you some skyview images I made that might help if you want to fly there.

Sadly just trigonometry isn't enough. The two small galaxies are very good reference points but I couldn't really find out HOW they are actually projected on the background. I mean knowing the shape of the background could help a lot, I think the whole skybox inluding the very distant galaxies are on a spere. Moving closer or farther away from the constellation of Barnard-Orion-California will dramatically change the view.

It's a good thing, that will ensure the exact location can be found, but it's rather difficult. Just when you feel like you're close to the spot and only have to move a little farther away the whole view will be chaotic again.

No I hadn't tried it yet but am going to go out there tomorrow. Since horizons dropped been mostly spending my time collecting materials and planetary market data within 50 lyr of my home base and crowbaring it into EDDN, trade dangerous and bpc.

Just some of the system names you took screenshots from would be nice enough.

As for how the images are projected, to eliminate that potential problem I'll take the screenshots in ingame normal space. I think the fact those nebula are visible in all modes is a clue in itself, one can always see that pulsarish looking one, normal space, supercruise and all the map modes.

I know this could be a math lab problem for 1st or second year differential calculus.
Some one must have those credentials?

For one of my labs way back, the prof came it with a tracing paper of a shatter pattern caused by bullet through his living room window.
What's the force, velocity and trajectory of the bullet and where did it land?

This has got to be easier than that.
 
So what i can say about the pursuit is that:

-we jumped 3 times

-the convoy didn't care about hostile nor wanted status.

-we come into a dead end where the ships just keep doing the same thing after droping the UA(they didn't even notice that i was ejected AT ALL)

- kiling the escorts (condas) seems to make the solo T9 talk to himself.

- forcing the t9 to jump by shooting apears to have no effect.

Two things that i noticed. It's the missing conda after the first jump .
maybe it jumped to other system. maybe just a bug.

also we confirmed seeing the T-9 shooting a pulse laser to the nothing. (sometimes i just saw, sometimes Dincy only) .(bug maybe)
 
You'd be surprised how many people actually message me in private chat and keep telling me how some of the people here like to pretend and assume as if "they've" (few individuals) put themselves in charge as the authority of what goes on (quoting someone from my PM's, not my own words). I have literally 3 pages of people sending me the same exact feedback every once in a while after I make a comment. As much as there are many people who like what you guys do there are as many people who don't contribute or tend to stay away from any discussions with you guys due to these concerns.

No one owns the UA mystery and no one owns this thread and no one has claimed otherwise. All are welcome here. But it's not a hippy commune either; people will disagree with theories and ideas and they will say so, and as with any group conversation that can result in a pile-on. So if you really have pages of "concerned" people PMing you but unwilling to join the discussion here then why don't you go and start another thread so that all those people have a place to contribute?
 
Right here is my complete report:

21:32 – found a SSS in HIP 15609, which contained 4 vultures, 2 anacondas and 1 type 9. Scanning the type 9 showed it had 7 battle weapons, 5 reactive armour and 1 unknown artefact.

21:40 – accidently shot an anaconda while trying to cargo scan. Requested assistance from CMDR GTR2014, allowing me to jump out and back in (removing hostile status). On returning the wing of 4 vultures and 1 anaconda had jumped out to a different system (one of the Arietis Sectors).

~22:20 – we attempted to steal the UA from the type 9 to see if they went somewhere different upon mission failure, CMDR GTR2014 was destroyed by the anaconda. While he was respawning the convoy jumped to Arietis Sector ID-H A11-2, I high wake scanned and followed.

~22:30 – upon arriving in the system there was no ships in supercruise, but a low energy wake around the star which it turned out was the convoy. We waited until they jumped again, this time to Arietis Sector ID-H A11-3.

~23:00 – this time the convoy was in supercruise, and we followed to 2700ls away from the star where they dropped into normal space in orbit around the planet ‘Arietis Sector ID-H A11-3 6’. The position that dropped at was 1.18Mm above the surface at longitude -10.1110 (latitude was changing I assume due to planets spin). The Type 9 suffered cargo malfunction and I acquired the UA.

~00:00 – nothing happened for over 30 minutes so we decide to see if we could force them to run, so we engaged and destroyed the escort anaconda. The type 9 remained.

~00:20 – we decided there was nothing else to be found and obliterated the type 9… very satisfying.


Conclusion:
Convoys don’t appear to act any differently from version 1.3. Only possibility is to investigate the ice world they stopped at, but seems fairly unremarkable and is quite far inside the human bubble. Will do a quick investigation tomorrow myself.
If anyone wants the UA from the convoy to test on (may behave differently from free floaters?) just message me and I can arrange to transfer it to you.


Anyway, huge thanks to CMDR GTR2014 for his help and a happy new year to all :D

Been a fun evening of smooth jazz, red wine and elite dangerous.
 
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well if it's any help I plotted the malfunctioning stations in 3D. Blue are shut down, Red is having technical issues, and green is the centroid. The red one with the circle is Maia, for reference.


Well that looks remarkably non-random. Could you rotate the view and give us a top-down look at it? Ie 90deg around the X-axis. Thanks!
 
Update on convoy. Followed three jumps and they have arrived around a planet. will post locations as soon as i can.

Edit: 23.18 UA broke free and have now acquired it. We're continuing to follow the type 9

This is some great work CMDR; many have tried to follow a convoy and failed - that you now have it without shedding any blood is a huge achievement and testament to your patience :)
 
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No I hadn't tried it yet but am going to go out there tomorrow. Since horizons dropped been mostly spending my time collecting materials and planetary market data within 50 lyr of my home base and crowbaring it into EDDN, trade dangerous and bpc.

Just some of the system names you took screenshots from would be nice enough.

As for how the images are projected, to eliminate that potential problem I'll take the screenshots in ingame normal space. I think the fact those nebula are visible in all modes is a clue in itself, one can always see that pulsarish looking one, normal space, supercruise and all the map modes.

I know this could be a math lab problem for 1st or second year differential calculus.
Some one must have those credentials?

For one of my labs way back, the prof came it with a tracing paper of a shatter pattern caused by bullet through his living room window.
What's the force, velocity and trajectory of the bullet and where did it land?

This has got to be easier than that.

http://imgur.com/a/i1taZ


I uploaded them, it seemed more useful. Good luck there! I'm really sure it's possible to find and in a couple days I'll rejoin you but I haven't flown my FDL since 2.0 and I need to blow things up a bit...

Some of those pictures weren't taken in the perfect angle so you have to tilt your head a bit if you want to see the correct picture :D Anyway, the point is to see how the picture changes while moving, I think all the system names are there so you can trace the movement.

Oh yes! All names starting with col are followed by "sector" but that's not labeled on most of it. These pictures were made for myself as memo, if you cannot find a system just type "col sector" in front of the designator, but I guess you figured it out already. Just to make sure.
 
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Call me crazy but if you connect all the dots together it looks like a UA to me that's sort of might be pointing to Orion Nebula

Thing is, that's one viewpoint onto a 3D render. It could just be the alignment of the dots in the correct plane at the moment,,, rotate it and it'll look completely different, and the points unaligned.
 
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I have a few hours to kill today and tomorrow to increase my explorer rank (why not). I've already landed on quite a few planets within the UA sphere, so anyone want to wing up and go exploring (planet side as well) in some random nebula looking for barnacles, add me. Happy New Year to all and RIP 2015. I'm doing low-pass fly-bys fo POIs - if it's a barnacle that's supposed to spawn, that's likely what will stand out.

I'm also thinking if someone who has taken a mission to find the meta-alloy, they should not have to cover the entire planet - the planet should essentially be covered in them such that they spawn frequently. This should ideally mean that a CMDR should not need to scan 20 POIs on a planet - just a few might be enough to cross it off. Also. if FDev have not added much more after the barnacles are found in this release, then they have no reason to make finding them easy. They may just want people exploring planets and taking screen shots for a while - not sure they've given out any / enough clues yet.

Just a thought.
 
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I noticed in 1.4 there seemed to be areas in the shell where there wasn't any UA activity. I spent between 10 and 15 minutes in several systems looking, then moving onto another system for a good few hours, then when I found a system where a UA spawned after a couple of minutes pretty much every other system nearby spawned one. With tinfoil hat firmly in place, I was thinking maybe the UA sightings in the shell were "drawing" the topographical landmasses of a planet.

Did you happen to keep a log of which shell systems didn't spawn UAs? I'd like to keep track of that sort of negative results in the UA spreadsheet as well as it is important IMO. Also helpful to know how long was spent in that sort of system to get an indication of how reliable the result is.

Spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nbAAtymsXCJib_plQtbjGPkVqlr3VuJxEE95N2n6Phs/edit?usp=sharing
 
Right here is my complete report:

21:32 – found a SSS in HIP 15609, which contained 4 vultures, 2 anacondas and 1 type 9. Scanning the type 9 showed it had 7 battle weapons, 5 reactive armour and 1 unknown artefact.

21:40 – accidently shot an anaconda while trying to cargo scan. Requested assistance from CMDR GTR2014, allowing me to jump out and back in (removing hostile status). On returning the wing of 4 vultures and 1 anaconda had jumped out to a different system (one of the Arietis Sectors).

~22:20 – we attempted to steal the UA from the type 9 to see if they went somewhere different upon mission failure, CMDR GTR2014 was destroyed by the anaconda. While he was respawning the convoy jumped to Arietis Sector ID-H A11-2, I high wake scanned and followed.

~22:30 – upon arriving in the system there was no ships in supercruise, but a low energy wake around the star which it turned out was the convoy. We waited until they jumped again, this time to Arietis Sector ID-H A11-3.

~23:00 – this time the convoy was in supercruise, and we followed to 2700ls away from the star where they dropped into normal space in orbit around the planet ‘Arietis Sector ID-H A11-3 6’. The position that dropped at was 1.18Mm above the surface at longitude -10.1110 (latitude was changing I assume due to planets spin). The Type 9 suffered cargo malfunction and I acquired the UA.

~00:00 – nothing happened for over 30 minutes so we decide to see if we could force them to run, so we engaged and destroyed the escort anaconda. The type 9 remained.

~00:20 – we decided there was nothing else to be found and obliterated the type 9… very satisfying.


Conclusion:
Convoys don’t appear to act any differently from version 1.3. Only possibility is to investigate the ice world they stopped at, but seems fairly unremarkable and is quite far inside the human bubble. Will do a quick investigation tomorrow myself.
If anyone wants the UA from the convoy to test on (may behave differently from free floaters?) just message me and I can arrange to transfer it to you.


Anyway, huge thanks to CMDR GTR2014 for his help and a happy new year to all :D

Been a fun evening of smooth jazz, red wine and elite dangerous.

Great work on this Cmdr o7. The obvious question is have the convoys started up again after not being in the game in 1.4 or were they always there and we just missed them? Two convoys in less than a day does seem like a higher incidence than previously, but it's not a lot of data so it's hard to be certain.

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Just been pondering why the UA's spawn in a shell. The radius from what's been said here is about 135-150ly. We don't find UA's travelling at superluminal velocities as far as I'm aware, so if the shell is evidence of the UA's having originate at Merope and spread from there, could it be possible that their max speed is 1c, and potentially have instantaneous acceleration to that speed. I looked at the timeline to see if there was any event roughly 150 years ago that might have initiated the spawning and spread of these things, but the only entry that comes close is the invention of the cobra and the Prossett Drive.

Of course, this assumes the UA's can travel at 1c, and can accelerate/decelerate at will, and haven't just been drifting for a very long time at subluminal velocities.

Apologies if this has been suggested as a line of inquiry before but this thread is greater than I can manage sometimes :)

In 1.3 free floating UAs were found in systems closer to the Pleiades (within about 100 Ly). So they appear to have moved outward in the space of a couple of months. So if they are moving through space rather than just appearing then they seem to be moving at superluminal speeds. The shell didn't change in Horizons though so there is currently no evidence that they are continuing to move/expand.
 
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