She's a very weight sensitive little bird. You need to have A-rated thrusters, D sensors and life support, and have absolutely no whatsoever. Don't upgrade bulkheads and don't equip Hull Reinforcements. Just focus on shield tank.
Not Even A Vulture Anymore...
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She's a very weight sensitive little bird. You need to have A-rated thrusters, D sensors and life support, and have absolutely no whatsoever. Don't upgrade bulkheads and don't equip Hull Reinforcements. Just focus on shield tank.
There is also a large element of personal preference and suitability when equipping a ship. Not just the use you want to put it to, but also your own personal flying style and tactics. Personally i'm quite keen on giving it the old "Derrier Veloce" when I think i'm about to get my face filled in. So being able to chucker off quickly is essential.
In combat I can keep a small target in my sights if I'm flying a DBS or something, but slow-turning ships like the DBX I tend to need gimbals to do this. A better combat pilot would maybe be able to get away with Fixed on everything, but I can't. My personal tactics tend to be "boom and zoom", so biweave shields work for me but for people who like to tank it, they're just too weak.
I personally don't like having the FSD disable itself when I deploy hardpoints as it stops me escaping as the FSD needs time to boot when power is restored, so I avoid that but other people are happy with it.
There is no right-and-wrong here - set the ship up the way you like it. That's the point. There are no bad ships, just ships badly suited to the roles people put them to.
In combat I can keep a small target in my sights if I'm flying a DBS or something, but slow-turning ships like the DBX I tend to need gimbals to do this. A better combat pilot would maybe be able to get away with Fixed on everything, but I can't. My personal tactics tend to be "boom and zoom", so biweave shields work for me but for people who like to tank it, they're just too weak.
I personally don't like having the FSD disable itself when I deploy hardpoints as it stops me escaping as the FSD needs time to boot when power is restored, so I avoid that but other people are happy with it.
There is no right-and-wrong here - set the ship up the way you like it. That's the point. There are no bad ships, just ships badly suited to the roles people put them to.
DPS on paper isn't everything.
Med weapons incur unstated penalties against large ships. Small weapons incur penalties against med & lrg ships.
Agreed...I've parked my Asp in the garage and have been using the Courier at RES sites and for missions. It's very nimble and good at dodging those pesky asteroids.
I never lost a vulture in combat fighting a beacon or res. If I got into trouble I simply ran away was never a problem. 2 large pulse forgot the class but the 140000k ones and destroy any ship in pve. My preferred target is always fdl they pay a good bounty and die faster then any of the high end ships. The one that always gave me a scare was clipper they can stay right on your nose. Anaconda I could kill but not really worth the long fight generally unless others are attacking them. I was never fitting ocd but used ABCD modules with no problem. Never had a problem with power was over a few megs but power was easy to handle. Anaconda likes to ram also it seems. Vulture put me in my now fas in a couple days, I was making 4 million a run to hazres never timed it though. FAS is fun but nothing turns and burns like vulture in a knife fight.
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I've been using a Courier for the past several days, but switched back to a Vulture today. The difference is quite significant. Against smaller targets my twin C3 pulse lasers chew through them significantly faster than the 2x pulse, 1x multicannon set-up on the Courier, and against larger ships the Vulture outstrips the Courier for damage by a fair margin, even before taking into account the fact that it can maintain fire for nearly twice as long before draining the lasers.
It's also more maneuverable on thrusters, so it can stay on target more easily, and my current C-rated bi-weave shield seems to take more punishment than the A-rated standard shield on the Courier.
It's also more maneuverable on thrusters, so it can stay on target more easily, and my current C-rated bi-weave shield seems to take more punishment than the A-rated standard shield on the Courier.
Yeah, I noticed that today - the NPC FDLs seem to be really fragile once you get their shields down. It takes about the same time to chew through the hull of a FDL as an Adder.
Vulture - 2 x C3 pulse and 2 x A class Shield Booster with 1 x D Class Shield Booster and 1 x Chaff. Internally, no SCB but Military Grade Armour and pack with Hull Reinforcement. Ideal for a CZ but not so good in a Distress Call scenario. I can run at up to 121% but tend to run at up to 114% with modular prioritisation and switching on/off. I change the D class Shield Booster for a D Class KWS if Bounty Hunting.
If I get down to one ring on shields I move out 20km+ to recharge, then get back in the fray. If I lose shields, the extra armour and reinforcement enables me to wake out even if mass locked, as the Vulture is damn slow. I only ever use D Class Thrusters on a Vulture for power management reasons but I can sometimes sacrifice something else if I want to upgrade. However given the slow speed of a Vulture, extra power to Thrusters is a waste of time.
These days I use a FDL for Distress Calls and Strong Signal Sources and Haz Res, the Vulture for CZ only, a Cobra III for Smuggling (all A rated) and a D rated Python for trading short range on a regular trade route. Tried the Cobra IV and ditched it immediately. Enjoyed the Viper IV for a while but stuck with the Cobra III instead, as it suits my smuggling purpose for heat management and speed.
If I get down to one ring on shields I move out 20km+ to recharge, then get back in the fray. If I lose shields, the extra armour and reinforcement enables me to wake out even if mass locked, as the Vulture is damn slow. I only ever use D Class Thrusters on a Vulture for power management reasons but I can sometimes sacrifice something else if I want to upgrade. However given the slow speed of a Vulture, extra power to Thrusters is a waste of time.
These days I use a FDL for Distress Calls and Strong Signal Sources and Haz Res, the Vulture for CZ only, a Cobra III for Smuggling (all A rated) and a D rated Python for trading short range on a regular trade route. Tried the Cobra IV and ditched it immediately. Enjoyed the Viper IV for a while but stuck with the Cobra III instead, as it suits my smuggling purpose for heat management and speed.