UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

[Colonel Kenney]

No exceedingly rare doesn't mean exceedingly random. Two different things.
The randomness has some rules, it' needs to be in certain places.

We need to figure out what these rules are, just as with the UA.
Wait until we find the first one's, then well be able to apply sound logic and common sense to it.

Yeah because it is admittedly "spawned" randomly AND that it is rare that means it is a % chance as of now. That means exceedingly rare would be well under 5% chance. Considering the tons of people out there not finding it i'd say it was <1%.

The fact nobody has found any is pretty good chance there is a bug.. also considering other people have confirmed that using other means. Its just getting them to admit its bugged.

I'm willing to bet we'll see "nope its not bugged' But secretly they fixed it and you'll see someone in the next day or two pop up with a success...

 

[Special Circumstances]

"Exceedingly" rare,.

Some might say matter was exceedingly rare and only found in certain areas of space.

Rare is a very relative term.


My guess is that there are "conditions" which decrease the rarity. It will only be through chance discoveries (=hard work increasing probabilities - if you like) that we will gather enough samples to discern though conditions. That's the science of discovery isn't it?

 

[John Stoutbeard]

Yeah because it is admittedly "spawned" randomly AND that it is rare that means it is a % chance as of now. That means exceedingly rare would be well under 5% chance. Considering the tons of people out there not finding it i'd say it was <1%.

The fact nobody has found any is pretty good chance there is a bug.. also considering other people have confirmed that using other means. Its just getting them to admit its bugged.

I'm willing to bet we'll see "nope its not bugged' But secretly they fixed it and you'll see someone in the next day or two pop up with a success...

Agree, it's *rare* 'Good chance it's bugged'. Where's the evidence for that?
It doesn't exclude the chance, but your line of thought imply that we should lie down and not do anything.
I disagree with that. It's counter-productive.

Keep in mind, perhaps only a handful people have been at the right location without realising, so the rarity seems even higher.
Once we figure out what the rules are, I'm pretty sure we'll have more general availability, just as with the UA.

Super rare in the start, once we figured out the pattern so many more owners got their hands on some.
The UA was rare back in 1.2 and 1.3, it wasn't bugged. We had the same accusations back then.

 

[Special Circumstances]

Yeah because it is admittedly "spawned" randomly AND that it is rare that means it is a % chance as of now. That means exceedingly rare would be well under 5% chance. Considering the tons of people out there not finding it i'd say it was <1%.

The fact nobody has found any is pretty good chance there is a bug.. also considering other people have confirmed that using other means. Its just getting them to admit its bugged.

I'm willing to bet we'll see "nope its not bugged' But secretly they fixed it and you'll see someone in the next day or two pop up with a success...

Fish are exceedingly rare at the top of mountains.
Wild geese are exceedingly rare at the bottom of oceans.

Both can be common in the right areas. But before we knew geese flew in the sky, the oceans were as good a place to look for them as any. Cue jokes about wild geese hunts.

 

[Nelson]

It could be a <1% spawn IF you are on a 100% Metal content planet AND have a certain type star AND are the closest orbiting body AND you rub a Rich Tea biscuit on your SRV for good luck...

So as soon as one is found and we start figuring/recording the case scenario we can suddenly up the % simply by rubbing in said biscuit and other variables...

I think FD would have the balls to say they have tweaked the [FONT=&quot]probibility[/FONT] if we just weren't hitting it.

o7

 

[TFW Primus]

Yeah because it is admittedly "spawned" randomly AND that it is rare that means it is a % chance as of now. That means exceedingly rare would be well under 5% chance. Considering the tons of people out there not finding it i'd say it was <1%.

The fact nobody has found any is pretty good chance there is a bug.. also considering other people have confirmed that using other means. Its just getting them to admit its bugged.

I'm willing to bet we'll see "nope its not bugged' But secretly they fixed it and you'll see someone in the next day or two pop up with a success...

I think you might be missing something. They are likely isolated to a specific part of space and are rare. So, outside of that specific part of space, their drop rate is 0%, but inside that part of space it's a 1-5% POI drop. There have been a lot of people out and about roving around looking for POIs, but if they are outside of that specific part of space they have no chance of finding anything.

That, or they are everywhere and and just "exceedingly rare"

 

[bitstorm]

I think you might be missing something. They are likely isolated to a specific part of space and are rare. So, outside of that specific part of space, their drop rate is 0%, but inside that part of space it's a 1-5% POI drop. There have been a lot of people out and about roving around looking for POIs, but if they are outside of that specific part of space they have no chance of finding anything.

That, or they are everywhere and and just "exceedingly rare"

Yeah I can;t help feeling it's like this.

Which makes searching for them difficult, almost like patience is the thing.

Not that I'm advocating not searching for them but y'know.

 

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[GormDeGamle]

Obsidian Orbital is missing from that list :/

Well, which services should be down there?
I just docked in Obsidian Orbital and it seems to me that everything is up and running! :?

 

[rizal72]

Ok just spent 8 hours in the deep dark of Ariel and after all that time i did not see anything odd on the wake scanner, i tried in two of the cracks neither was on the dark side.
And after all that time all i can say is don't go there if you are on the Rift (Rizal72 my stomach hates you at the mo ) unless you have lots of sick bags.

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Hell i spent hundreds of hours looking for a UA and never found one, not till the shell was discovered.

EhEh! Don't tell me you didn't have some fun!
Someone here was complaining he didn't ever see any misty Canyon or Crater...

 

[CMDR Runcible Shaw]

Yeah because it is admittedly "spawned" randomly AND that it is rare that means it is a % chance as of now. That means exceedingly rare would be well under 5% chance. Considering the tons of people out there not finding it i'd say it was <1%.

The fact nobody has found any is pretty good chance there is a bug.. also considering other people have confirmed that using other means. Its just getting them to admit its bugged.

I'm willing to bet we'll see "nope its not bugged' But secretly they fixed it and you'll see someone in the next day or two pop up with a success...

It being bugged hasn't been confirmed. In fact, someone a few pages back just posted that it's not bugged through possibly EULA breaking means. Michael Brookes has also said that it's not bugged but he'll check to make sure. I'm not sure where you're getting your spawn percentages but, as I said above, if it's similar to the UA convoys then it could well take an individual player dozens (or hundreds) of hours to find one of these. That could time could be even longer if it only spawns in certain systems at a similar rate to the UA convoys.

Now, I'll admit that it can certainly be frustrating (I never found a UA convoy), but I don't think frustrating=bugged.

EDIT: On post, beat to the punch by many.

 

[bitstorm]

This was Michael's comment about the UA way back :

they are exceedingly rare though and can only be found within a certain region of space - that does include multiple systems though.

Spoiler

It's kinda hard to say how that linked up to Timocani, Bast etc..

The UA seemed to be found in different regions, although I suppose the rarity made it very hard to tell.

 

[Nelson]

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear the sound does it make a noise ?

If no one actively searches for the Barnicles will someone find them ?

Yes to both

 

[squiggsy]

Well, which services should be down there?
I just docked in Obsidian Orbital and it seems to me that everything is up and running! :?

Nothing should be down at it, it just should be listed as "experiencing technical difficulties"
I do find it odd that it is no longer on the list, and that all mentions of it being there are gone... It does feel like FD are purging all news about that particular incident, though its much more likely a glitch and a typo than anything else.

 

[slartybartfast]

EhEh! Don't tell me you didn't have some fun!
Someone here was complaining he didn't ever see any misty Canyon or Crater...

Oh always fun or i wouldn't be playing.
Was you on the dark side when you had your odd scanner readings?.
Been thinking about the best way to approach these and i am of the opinion it may take two cmdrs to find, one in a a suv to locate the direction of odd readings and another to fly in the direction and have a look from the air, it would speed up the time it takes to eliminate what the readings are.
Or perhaps someone could land on top of a sidewinder in the suv and direct the ship to the right place, then couuld jump off the ship when very close.

 

[Goose4291]

None, but GALNET was reporting they were experiencing technical difficulties a few weeks back.

 

[yoda711]

Oh always fun or i wouldn't be playing.
Was you on the dark side when you had your odd scanner readings?.
Been thinking about the best way to approach these and i am of the opinion it may take two cmdrs to find, one in a a suv to locate the direction of odd readings and another to fly in the direction and have a look from the air, it would speed up the time it takes to eliminate what the readings are.
Or perhaps someone could land on top of a sidewinder in the suv and direct the ship to the right place, then couuld jump off the ship when very close.

If you jump onto a ship in your SRV and the ship pilot takes off, will the SRV stay on the ship? I tried jumping onto a ship parked outside a base a few days ago. CMDR came along and asked if I wanted to go for a ride. Then the SRV promptly fell/clipped through the ship and I couldn't seem to get on it anymore.

 

[Dielos]

Oh always fun or i wouldn't be playing.
Was you on the dark side when you had your odd scanner readings?.
Been thinking about the best way to approach these and i am of the opinion it may take two cmdrs to find, one in a a suv to locate the direction of odd readings and another to fly in the direction and have a look from the air, it would speed up the time it takes to eliminate what the readings are.
Or perhaps someone could land on top of a sidewinder in the suv and direct the ship to the right place, then couuld jump off the ship when very close.

Not practical. I have been there and you sure can't get far with an SRV down on those canyons. I finally only used the SRV to home in the position and would restrict the search to the air in slow flight.

 

[Goose4291]

I'm calling Retcon on the matter, seen as I know at least 250t of Artifacts have been shipped there.

Sounds like one of the player groups bleated and Frontier waved it's magic DM wand again.

 

[slartybartfast]

If you jump onto a ship in your SRV and the ship pilot takes off, will the SRV stay on the ship? I tried jumping onto a ship parked outside a base a few days ago. CMDR came along and asked if I wanted to go for a ride. Then the SRV promptly fell/clipped through the ship and I couldn't seem to get on it anymore.

Ah that's a pity.

Not practical. I have been there and you sure can't get far with an SRV down on those canyons. I finally only used the SRV to home in the position and would restrict the search to the air in slow flight.

No but it would put the ship on the right path, it would be just a matter of the suv pilot parking ship close, it is possible to park down there done it a few times now.
Ans when he has the direction sorted he can then get in fly the same direction as where he told the flying pilot to go. if he were to only go 2km (about proper distance for the suv scanner to find anything) and then wait for the suv pilot to get back in ship and fly to the other cmdr and rince n repeat. it would def speed things up.