UA Mystery thread 4 - The Canonn

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Im not gonna rage quit if you are thinking about that lol but I believe what I believe you guys wanna keep finding pois that have skimmers or silos or escape pods do what you gotta do but the fact that Michael said that they are exceedingly rare which means that they are ultra rare which means that meta alloys are very very very very rare - stay with me - and the fact that the Galaxy in this awesome game is 1:1 scaled means that it's almost impossible to find one unlessthe guy gets super super super lucky or finds it just by accident

A number of people have quoted the 1 to 1 scale galaxy as a reason something is futile.

This is not accurate. This is a video game...not real space.

1. Its been previously mentioned that these are common in regions of space. We arent searching the 1 to 1 galaxy...we are searching for a region in the galaxy. Region in galactic terms usually implies much larger than a few systems.

2.Our history with the devs also plays into this. If we dont find it...or are searching the correct areas without results devs have traditionally stepped in and given hints or direct answers.

3. This is a game. These items have been created to be found. This game just has a different idea of difficulty than most games nowadays. Think NES here rather than p2w we are accostomed to nowadays.

This post isnt meant to target the way u play or do things ayal...but a number of people have used this line of thinking in the past and its flawed. They are not impossible to find. They might not jump out at us though.
 
just noticed Saunder's Dive in Wolf 1301 is also mysteriously missing from the Jan 4th station list.
 
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Im not gonna rage quit if you are thinking about that lol but I believe what I believe you guys wanna keep finding pois that have skimmers or silos or escape pods do what you gotta do but the fact that Michael said that they are exceedingly rare which means that they are ultra rare which means that meta alloys are very very very very rare - stay with me - and the fact that the Galaxy in this awesome game is 1:1 scaled means that it's almost impossible to find one unlessthe guy gets super super super lucky or finds it just by accident
If you're not rage quitting then could you please keep your negativity to yourself?
We get it, your frustrated. Do something else for a while, check in from to time to see if there's progress, if you still care, but stop commenting every idea with something that boils down to "you're just wasting your time anyway".
 
Not exactly we have not even scratched the surface of either Maia or merope at this point it could take dedicated teams months to fully or even partially explore all possibilities in just those two systems what we need here is more data.

I just arrived there to investigate all moons using a specific method. Will take a while, figuring it might take a week or so just to gather the data, and I'm leaving for Verona this weekend.
 
At Merope 5C I found a shipment of something guarded by a Goliath drone. I thought I could take it easily but ended up dying -__- and now I'll never know what was in those canisters. Is this a normal POI?
 
Did anyone else's system data for every system in the Pleadies just mysteriously vanish from your maps? I was on my way out there and had to replot my trip and noticed my system data for Maia was gone. Checked the other major systems (Pleione, Asterope, etc.) and they are all gone too.
 
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At Merope 5C I found a shipment of something guarded by a Goliath drone. I thought I could take it easily but ended up dying -__- and now I'll never know what was in those canisters. Is this a normal POI?


Yeah, pretty normal.
An easy method for taking out a Goliath is to:
Run away (in your SRV)
recall your ship
Get in your ship
Use the ship weapons to sling rock at said goliath.
Land ship return to POI in SRV

That said, you missed out on some tea :p
 
Did anyone else's system data for every system in the Pleadies just mysteriously vanish from your maps? I was on my way out there and had to replot my trip and noticed my system data for Maia was gone. Checked the other major systems (Pleione, Asterope, etc.) and they are all gone too.

nope, here it's all ok

Yeah, pretty normal.
An easy method for taking out a Goliath is to:
Run away (in your SRV)
recall your ship
Get in your ship
Use the ship weapons to sling rock at said goliath.
Land ship return to POI in SRV

That said, you missed out on some tea :p


What sort of :):):):):):):) guards tea with so much firepower???
 
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Did anyone else's system data for every system in the Pleadies just mysteriously vanish from your maps? I was on my way out there and had to replot my trip and noticed my system data for Maia was gone. Checked the other major systems (Pleione, Asterope, etc.) and they are all gone too.

New/different ship perhaps?

Exploration data is saved in the ship computer.... aka: non-transferable
 
Pic tok solar systems outpost is now in complete shutdown, sirius inc player group is moving onto iapodes and ngalia ( tall enterprise)

It seems demand at specific stations also corrleates with how many need to be delivered to shut the station down

Our thinking is that once a x amount of stations are reached then a repair community goal will be initated by Fdev
 
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how big are these barnacles? Because that is shaped exactly like a Thargoid warship - EXACTLY

Heh dude. That *is* a Thargoid Warship. Is why I posted it.

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The point being someone describing a Thargoid ship would likely describe it as a "large barnacle".

The theory of course being large barnacles could well be downed Thargoid ships, meta-alloys being materials used in Thargoid ships.

Although I don't expect all that to be true, I think it's more likely large barnacles will be structures that look *remarkably like* Thargoid ships, tho not likely to be 180m across, smaller versions perhaps.

Then again perhaps it will be a genuine Thargoid ship wreckage with meta-alloy at the crash site, finding a crashed ship *is* a decent hint at what's to come without giving too much away.
 
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nope, here it's all ok



What sort of :):):):):):):) guards tea with so much firepower???[/COLOR]

That's gotta be some amazing tea. Maybe that's what the Thargoids are after...

New/different ship perhaps?

Exploration data is saved in the ship computer.... aka: non-transferable

I haven't even left the bubble yet and space craziness is already setting in...

The point being someone describing a Thargoid ship would likely describe it as a "large barnacle".

The theory of course being large barnacles are downed Thargoid ships, meta-alloys being materials used in Thargoid ships.

Although I don't expect all that to be true, I think it's more likely large barnacles will be structures that look remarkably like Thargoid ships, smaller version perhaps.


You'd think these things would be more common actually. Remember there was a huge war where enough of these things were apparently shot down that the Thargoid invasion was effectively repulsed. And some of us actually managed to shoot down some of the ones that made incursions into civilized space too. Not to mention the drones we sold on the markets. These things weren't always as non-existent as they are now. There was also a period roughly 45 years ago when the Thargoids made a peaceful return and poked around on a few planets in the core systems. They even had some diplomatic meetings with humans during that time. Dunno what happened to the Thargoids after Emperor Hengist Duval declared himself "Ally to the Aliens" though. Or whatever happened to Miackce (sp?) and Hotice. I just chalked it all up to History's Mysteries.
 
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I'm...............Confused......


How do you have exploration data without having left the bubble?!?!?!?

I meant THIS time. I've been outside of the bubble before. My first expedition was to Alpha Cygni (Deneb). I think you can even find my data on this forum somewhere.
 
Holy crap. Just left some canyons on the dark side of Ariel (not intentionally dark side, that's just were I logged back in). Those were probably about 10 km deep and pitch black. It's terrifying. I don't care if nothing is ever found there, that's where monsters come from.

Going back as soon as I pick up an SRV. :)
 
I don't have a Meta-Alloy mission still, but Ariel is giving me weird readings I've never seen before. Maybe someone else has?

It's making a... soft static sound.

/edited to remove the image, wrong object... >_<
 
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So with MB's recent "exceedingly rare" comment, my feeling is that if they're so rare, it's unlikely to require the mission as a prerequisite for them to spawn. Of course I may be totally wrong, it's just one of those gut feeling things.

Anyway as a result I'm gonna stop hunting the missions and go out searching.

Just on a tangent, with MB's recent comment on meta-alloys :



Does anyone remember MB's quote on UA's from way back?



Remarkably similar. :)

Which gets me thinking, I mean if something is exceedingly rare from a developer's point of view how so you ensure players encounter it?

I mean if you're placing it on certain planets then it's really hard to quantify how rare that is in real terms.

Or if you're say, defining a few regions and making them spawn there, would you call that "exceedingly rare" but for me I don't think I would. For the reason that for something to be quantifiable as a certain level of rareness, "exceedingly", then that rareness has to be in relation to something else, and well am I defining it in relation to the number of planets in all the galaxy, or the number within 1000LY of the bubble? These are hugely different figures.

I really cannot help feeling this lack of context might seem to *imply* that the large barnacles are just a very low spawn chance on any planetary POI, I mean then I know the *exact* spawn rate and I can state with confidence some level of rareness.

And essentially isn't that how the UAs were when first introduced, just a very low chance in any SSS anywhere?

By doing it this way you as good as guarantee they'll be found.

Although UAs were later given an area spawn (common in an area) in addition as the story "progressed", so on the flipside perhaps this could mean that out of the door the meta-alloys ARE in an area and not just random in POI.

And just to throw in... if they ARE available in ANY POI at a low chance, and given the meta-alloy mission has a 1 week timer, this would imply a certain average rate of POI checking required.

You could say something like, well the average person checks X POIs per week when very actively looking for something, therefore how about an overall 50% chance someone doing this will be rewarded and will get the right POI.

So let's say X is 200 POIs, then well we could be looking at maybe a 0.25% spawn rate on a POI. Of course just pulling numbers out the air.

Then again if it was wouldn't someone have found them by now?

"Exceedingly" rare, well I'm not sure how many UAs I checked in the 150 hours it took me for the first one.

Gawd, who knows.


Perhaps, the region of space could be the shell... on a planet in a system where UAs are currently found.

This would easily give a good turn-around time if you have the mission to collect the alloys. It is also a region that is fairly specifically defined - yet tied specifically to the UAs.

Edit: To add a bit of tin-foil SCIENCE to this thought, perhaps the UAs are also looking for the alloys.
 
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I've found tons of space junk in the depths of Ariel, that had various surprisingly unheard of sounds. One in particular was a destroyed SRV and two destroyed skimmers next to it, on a 60 degree inclination, it was a pain to get to, and there was nothing to scan either. Another was just two buried canisters of illegal commodities.
Weird place to have any sort of Alien tech/events if you ask me. Maybe you can find some Federal discarded UA experiments? lol
 
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