Exactly! I remember how before you started complaining, David Braben just kept bathing in our money during the live streams while whispering "this game is perfect, we're done here." Thanks man!
Is Elite Dangerous a Dad's Game Played mainly by "non-gamers"?
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Exactly! I remember how before you started complaining, David Braben just kept bathing in our money during the live streams while whispering "this game is perfect, we're done here." Thanks man!
Somewhat reminiscent of another recent live stream from a dev...
Ah, the sublime, seemingly blissfully unaware, irony of recommending use of the ignore feature to ignore other posters whilst simultaneously criticising the dev for supposedly ignoring posters.
<fingers in ears> La-La-La...
While very amusing your reply is, I think he is referring to we the playerbase = ignore land., not so much ignoring other players on the forums. I could be wrong though.. Love the quip though.
Well, they (the writers) are humans.
Humans label.
If label name not suffices, invent other labelname and label the label name.
Preferably put it in a caste, or in a box, which we then can label with the relabeled label that etcetera.
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AAAH the sheer marvel of it. XD
Well, I did find out that i was VERY poor at flying...
Not that I was LARPing at that moment, still.
Wuttheheckisthatforvampirism...
Noob (at myself)
For the record, Dave, what RP's have you done?
I was HEAVILY into Earthdawn (FASA), Warhammer (non-40k/non-tabletop) (and I adored Realms of chaos), Call of Cthulu, Shadowrun, 5 Circles, D&d, AD&D, Eye of the Master, ...
To name a few.
thats a good list Sal, for me it was Call of Cthulu, D&D, AD&D, 40k Tabletop, Werewolf (always played a Fianna) and then anything else my friend decided to create on the spot..
then for LARP it was a mix of Clan Wars in Scotland when i was younger, and in my mid 20's playing a Toreador Justicar in Masquerade (even had a large gathering of an event overnight inside a large, old, art gallery, with some werewolf players turning up to spice things up.. Great days!!
I wish I wasn't on my phone so I could give you rep right now.
I fully acknowledge that the game has issues. So does everyone.
But there ARE people complaining and effectively asking for ED to be turned into a whole different game, because they don't want to face the fact that they've sunk their money into a game which simply isn't their type of game.
I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS TRUE OF EVERYONE WHO COMPLAINS. So don't attack me because you think I'm lumping everyone who has issues with the game together. I'm mainly talking about the over-exagerated "this game is going to DIE unless FD sort themselves out and fix [insert todays complaint here]. Soon Star Citizen will be out, and if FD don't make this game more [insert favorite game mechanic or style, no matter how innappropriate to ED, here], they won't have any players, because we'll all be playing SC."
We all know the game has issues, including a serious lack of depth in multiple areas. No-one denies that. FD will get to it in time.
If you want to complain that they should be prioritising fixing the lack of depth over adding new features, go ahead by all means. We won't all agree, but at least it's a reasonable complaint.
Then why did I love Elite when I was only about 6,7 or 8 (not sure now exactly when I went from "helping" my dad play to playing myself), and still have the same save game now I've had for over 20 years? And why does one of my 9 year old sons love it (except he can't get the hang of the flight mechanics yet)?
Age is probably a factor, but young people are perfectly capable of enjoying these things too. I suspect that as we get older, some people who didn't appreciate games like this may start to, but a lot of us already did, and I suspect some who once did no longer have the patience or the ability to immerse themselves as they once did.
i actually stood up while reading this post.. bang on dude!
*lol that nearly came out as bang on olufson
Yes. Yes it is.
No this is not a "dadgame". It's just a good game. Smart people seem to enjoy it. /thread
yeah, because the players that developers really need to listen too, are those who don't actually play the game, those who dislike the direction the game is going, those who may even have belittled the development team with remarks about ability or bad business models.
I'm so sorry I can only add +1 rep for this wonderful post.
Yes, without us gaming would not exist! also I've been saying for several years now that has the same rate as game graphics improve, game compexity lowers. hence all the constant hand-holding and spoonfeeding that most modern games do.
Oh snap... wrong again...lol
Thank you, yours is great too!
Quite a bit of similarity, i see.
i read that as replying to JeffRyans post, and welcoming him to ignore land.
i always find that an amusing proposition.. telling someone you are putting them on ignore, rather than just putting them on ignore. i suppose that is the forum equivalent of raising a hand and asking the other person to talk to it.. its all very 'well lit centre stage' and dramatical.
Well, I owned one of the first 5 basic D&D boxed sets to be imported to the UK. moved on to AD&D with 1st Edition, never moved on to 2nd or subsequent, just kept with my own mods to 1st. Traveller for the space fix, LARP of many varieties, including Cthullhu live to match my CoC paper based habit, Steve Jackson's "Killer" - in which I made the first non-defusable "bomb" using a shoe box, a single microswitch from Maplin, a cheap tape deck and a few copper clad PCB blanks...
And ECWS as a member of Sir Thomas Blackwells Regiment of Foote
i was thinking the same thing Sal, but here's a question for you, are those dadgames or gamergames
weeeeee lolnats
Banned
Lol so a 'dad' cant be a gamer can he not! I hate to say it - but I was playing games before half of you were probably born and I will be probably playing games for my next 40 or so years if I live that long! And can I just also say that games were far far better in the 80s than they are now. Thank you and good night.
Nice list.
Any D20/D6 Star Wars?
Ffffuuuuuuuudge if I know...i was thinking the same thing Sal, but here's a question for you, are those dadgames or gamergames
All and none of them?
Depending on how hardcore they are. XD
Sorry not going to wade through all 36 pages so if this has been said before I apologise
Not sure 'Fallout 4' has any place on a list of gamergames. It's an enjoyable distraction but nothing about it is challenging (except maybe the loading times between areas).
Elite: Dangerous is a far more challenging game although a good deal of that is unintentional (although more illumination is cast on the game by fans and 3rd party assets such as guides, you tube clips and databases every day).
With regards to game design I would say E: D is awful, although I applaud the intention of the developers and the progress they have made.
It is still an enjoyable way to spend an hour or two of an evening, and I look forward to see how it develops.
Not sure 'Fallout 4' has any place on a list of gamergames. It's an enjoyable distraction but nothing about it is challenging (except maybe the loading times between areas).
Elite: Dangerous is a far more challenging game although a good deal of that is unintentional (although more illumination is cast on the game by fans and 3rd party assets such as guides, you tube clips and databases every day).
With regards to game design I would say E: D is awful, although I applaud the intention of the developers and the progress they have made.
It is still an enjoyable way to spend an hour or two of an evening, and I look forward to see how it develops.