Robigo runs vs legitimate way to make tonnes of cash

I think arissa is the one that gives the biggest bonus, but you need to pledge to her AND be in her systems.
The powers against against slavery are "horny blue ponytail" (dont ask me who she is, guess by yourself) and winters.
 
Thx everyone for the input. In case someone misunderstood me, by legitimate, I do not mean legal. Whether something is legal in a certain jurisdiction is a completely irrelevant matter in many cases. I always check the politics of the controlling faction. If it is a democracy then I assume that legal = legitimate most of the time. If it's a dictatorship I assume that illegal = illegitimate only around 50% of the time. That is why I don't mind the federal navy giving me missions that are locally considered as illegal. That is what basically the CIA does and I don't mind. That is also why I don't bounty hunt in Empire and other authoritarian systems as there is no guarantee that wanted ships have engaged in illegitimate activities. For all I know they could be perfectly legitimate freedom fighters.

Upon entering that High RES watch out for spawns of other ships. If you spot a wanted pilot but they're flying a small craft like an Eagle, Sidewinder, Cobra, Diamondback Explorer, Adder or Imperial Curier leave the RES.
Super Cruise about 500km away, turn around and re-enter the RES.

That is a rely stupid mechanic. They should change that. It's basically an exploit.

There should never be a way to make more money legitimately than illegally.

I agree. Illicit activities should be the most lucrative as they are even in the real world. But that doesn't mean that they are common or easy. It can certainly be very lucrative to be in the mafia, but that definitely isn't a common nor an easy job. Right now whenever you meet a cmdr in an Anaconda, you can almost be 100% sure that he is a slave trader. And I heard here in this thread that they are doing it whilst watching YouTube. It makes no sense why someone would pay you that much for an easy job (ignoring the fact that I think that these slave cargo canisters from Robigo seem quite overpriced regardless of how difficult it is to transport them. Slaves in the real world were not worth much more than cattle).

So I do think that some balancing is still needed. FD should for example include missions for bounty hunters to hunt down slave traders on the fastest routes between Robigo and their popular smuggling destinations and/or add missions to patrol the popular smuggling stations outside the docking port alongside local security and scan passing ships. The more slaves you find the more you get paid. That would balance out gameplay somewhat as people could get rich legitimately whilst keeping the illicit activities still the most lucrative albeit more dangerous as they should be in the first place. And if people decide to do it in solo mode, well Anacondas in wings should do the trick. That will teach them about watching YouTube whilst driving.

This balancing should be made adequate enough so that less than half of rich players are criminals even though the richest most capable ones maybe still are. Right now ED is a kind of a parody of the real word as everyone who is rich is a criminal. Most people in my country would actually say that this is actually the case, but I for one don't believe it.

Why? From a game balance perspective, legal bounty hunting requires more skill and/or much better equipment than illegal smuggling. It is also considerably more dangerous.

True but jobs aren't paid in relation to the difficulty. That is why mobsters are richer than legal workers with equally difficult jobs. Work difficulty is only one factor.
 
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Yup, head to Robigo, Fehu, Aditi, 17 Draconis, or anywhere remote. Pick up long range haulage missions.. Higher the trade rank the more money you get, bigger cargo hold obviously helps.

ignore me - everything looks fine this eveinng
 
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Oh yes I remember this 71 route from a year ago. As missions were too cheap, I started this. But it got really boring too soon. As for exploration, I was considering that but decided to postpone those expeditions until more realism is added (teardrop shaped stars, giant kilometers wide asteroids, more landable planets, realistic black holes etc.). Sadly most of that will probably never happen so for now I'm still trying to make bounty hunting lucrative enough. But tnx. Really good suggestions.

I'm bimbling my way round this 71 stop route in my T6 as I want to earn enough to get an Asp but am taking my time getting side-tracked by other missions if they take my fancy and next stop will take me to 78 Ursae Majoris so will likely get side-tracked again trying to get the Alioth permit.
Eventually I do want to head to the core in my Asp and when I do I'm sure I'll try to neutron farm.

Before that though could someone please explain this "mostly watching YouTube/tv bit with respect to shadow missions? I thought the kept you on your toes as people chased you? Or is the danger simply the getting scanned entering and leaving stations and the majority of the time is jump, turn, jump, turn etc?

Ok lets pretend in the best case scenario you can make your 10m/hr.. As a smuggler I can make double that with less effort, and dont need a faction bonus (which takes time and effort to acquire and maintain)

Also for you to make 50-60 million would be an insane grind in a CZ for 5-6 hrs straight. Also the reason you couldnt actually average 10m/hr over 5hrs is because you would need to go back to a station to repair/refuel/blink your eyes/resupply/ and if youre smart hand in some missions so you dont lose everything if you make a mistake. But 5-6 hrs straight ? In a CZ? I couldnt do it... but I sure can do 3hrs straight of smuggling, as about 75% of the process is watching Youtube/tv while i flip through menus aaaannd make twice as much. Sorry, but its not balanced vs other activities.. not even close.
 
Before that though could someone please explain this "mostly watching YouTube/tv bit with respect to shadow missions? I thought the kept you on your toes as people chased you? Or is the danger simply the getting scanned entering and leaving stations and the majority of the time is jump, turn, jump, turn etc?
Waiting for the BB to refresh. The actual flight, if you ask me, is pretty arduous.
 
Waiting for the BB to refresh. The actual flight, if you ask me, is pretty arduous.


This is true but not as bad as some folks claim. I get a cop on radar maybe every third jump but only interdicted by them once on the journey into the bubble on average. My last run though I caught a streak of unscoopable stars and got scanned about 4 jumps from my first destination while trying to find a suitable candidate star to refuel at.

Win some, lose some.

80T of slaves only sells for 895k on the black market. :(

My courier mission got through though! LOL
 
My Vulture build cost me 22m including the ship. I made that in a fairly short amount of time at compromised nav beacons and high/haz res sites in an Imperial Courier (!) just from freelance bounty hunting with a KWS. Not pledged in powerplay either. Even hitting the 60% bracket on a couple of CGs that reach tier 3 or 4 would provide a lot of it, in fact just delivering 100 tons of fireworks over 4 days for the last CG would have bagged 7.5m.

If OP was trying to make the credits to combat outfit an Anaconda or something then yeah, creative methods might be required. There are plenty of ways to make about 20m in pretty short order though.

Edit: Ah. Having read on I see that this was less of a request for advice and more another twist on 'I don't like Robigo'. My bad.

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Upon entering that High RES watch out for spawns of other ships. If you spot a wanted pilot but they're flying a small craft like an Eagle, Sidewinder, Cobra, Diamondback Explorer, Adder or Imperial Curier leave the RES.
Super Cruise about 500km away, turn around and re-enter the RES.
That is a rely stupid mechanic. They should change that. It's basically an exploit.

Hmmm. If your issue is deliberately leaving and re-entering the res site fine. Just go to Noti, or any one of a hundred or more other systems where there are multiple haz res sites in the same ring. Then you can fly to one, see if the ships are worth hunting and if not, you can leave it, fly to the other one and check that. I mean I assume I'm allowed to fly where I want, that's not an exploit too?
 
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Hmmm. If your issue is deliberately leaving and re-entering the res site fine. Just go to Noti, or any one of a hundred or more other systems where there are multiple haz res sites in the same ring. Then you can fly to one, see if the ships are worth hunting and if not, you can leave it, fly to the other one and check that. I mean I assume I'm allowed to fly where I want, that's not an exploit too?

No of course not. That's fine.

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so it's confirmed....

there is 2 of them

bless them, poor souls.... :rolleyes:

You have no idea how fun it is when you play by being so intensely immersed.
 
Trading slaves is just not my thing.
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In case someone misunderstood me, by legitimate, I do not mean legal.


Do you have a problem with...tobacco? Or maybe 'battle weapons'.

If not, Fehu is more or less the same deal as Robigo, but with those illegal goods, and delivering to Imperial space (with bonus imperial rep), but slightly less profit.

Fehu also has two proper stations (that you can dock big ships at), though you probably still want to do it in an Asp 'cause it's a long way...
 
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