Sorry, but my experience from alpha tells otherwise. Majority of beta players will be extra ed when beta will just won't work due of quite simple bug. If FD can avoid it using alpha testers - they should do that.
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Sorry, but my experience from alpha tells otherwise. Majority of beta players will be extra ed when beta will just won't work due of quite simple bug. If FD can avoid it using alpha testers - they should do that.
If the Majority of Beta backers would be ed and moaning at the Beta not loading up sometimes/ crashes ... bugs galore then they should not have brought into a beta ... and like I said a few posts up, all those Alpha backers that were moaning when the game was crashing and not loading should have been more aware of what an Alpha is ... You paid for an Alpha you got an Alpha .. seriously, hearing people saying "oh, The hardship of Alpha, you lowly Beta's Just couldn't handle it..." is just pathetic ..
I Know what A beta is ... Clearly some people in Alpha Don't know what an Alpha is.
I will start to wonder do we read same newsletter, because it openly says this:
"For anyone still interested in joining the Alpha now but unsure if it is worth it for a short period of time before we start the Premium Beta - here are two fantastic reasons"
Where it does say what you claim?
It's not going to happen though, is it? I'd be amazed if more than a trickle of people bought into the alpha at this late stage.
Who's to say it won't fall over in a big heap anyway when thousands of Beta backers descend on it like a plague of locusts?
It's a cash grab. I don't know how so many people are defending it.
It's starting to feel like a political forum. No matter what the argument is some people have to tow the party line.
Here's a little test for you, describe current situation with as little bias as you can to someone who has no interest in the game. I think you might be surprised by their response.
They can give an idea, which is better than nothing. We've already seen the network code struggle at various points during the alpha phase - to the point where it's been unplayable. Anything that can be done to avoid that for the initial beta launch is a good idea.
Beta is supposed to be beta, just like alpha was alpha. It's going to be unstable and problematic, that's what we all should be prepared for.
Look at what it says in the newsletter -
For anyone still interested in joining the Alpha now but unsure if it is worth it for a short period of time before we start the Premium Beta - here are two fantastic reasons;
- As we move into the Beta process, all Premium and standard Beta builds will be given exclusively to the Alpha players first.
- Also, all Alpha players will be granted a life time discount of 50% on ship insurance in game as a thank you for your support!
It's a selling point for alpha, not a favour to betas. Then a few sentences later -
Want to upgrade from Beta? The upgrade path from Beta to the Alpha is still active!
It just doesn't sit right with me. This is the first mention that premium beta will go to the alpha group first, then we're told we can upgrade to alpha to get what we thought we'd pledged for all along.
Given that beta backers have been managing our own expectations since January with very little info from FD, it's frustrating to have this thrown out now just as it was starting to feel like we might be getting close to getting our hands on the thing.
Isn't this expected in an Alpha? Or I am missing something?
Oh come on, say what you really think!
You might not be, but judging from some of the posts on the alpha forum, a lot of people are. You'd be (possibly) amazed how many people have complained when the alpha hasn't been silky-smooth.
+1. I feel like that.
Sorry, KING5TON, I don't have to play this game. You think you're right, I think you make too much big of a deal out of it. That's our opinions, and let's agree to disagree. My arguments are there are good reasons to do that behind this, including FD own with alpha rollout. Your argument is - whatever, I want my beta first. There we depart ways of thought
Wow, you agree with Frontier? Honestly?! I did not see that coming... amazing!
On the other topic - I'm kind of bored reading how the insurance perk is no big deal, too small to matter much, etc and yet some of the same people saying this are among those constantly mentioning balance and advantage when it comes to other aspects of the game... even down to things such as turning off the engine vibration effect. Seriously... take a look at the consistency of your arguments.
Sorry, KING5TON, I don't have to play this game. You think you're right, I think you make too much big of a deal out of it. That's our opinions, and let's agree to disagree. My arguments are there are good reasons to do that behind this, including FD own with alpha rollout. Your argument is - whatever, I want my beta first. There we depart ways of thought
My Argument isn't that.
It's that this is a cash grab and has nothing to do with testing the Beta before releasing to Beta backers.
It's not thanks for testing as I could upgrade the day before it ends, test nothing and still get it.
If it's thanks for Alpha backer's support then what about the rest of us? I supported the game too as did many others. Is £200 worth of support the only amount that gets thanks and such perks?
I can understand the Kickstarter pledge tier rewards like the starter ships. They were to entice people to back at higher levels and even then it's a one off perk not a constant perk that just gets better the further you get in the game.
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Maybe after a gruelling beta process, you'll also get a perk? But hey, why assume the best when you can assume the worst?
It was stated right from the get go that by purchasing any package you gain access to any subsequent phase thereafter. It isn't a broad stretch of the imagination to anticipate each backer group gaining access to each subsequent phase first as a result.
I am pretty sure that you won't be complaining when, as a premium beta backer, you gain first access into the open beta phase, for example. Premium Beta isn't the last phase of development.
I have paid for premium beta as well, and I don't really see the point of complaint. I also don't really see that I have paid to access beta, the cost is more for the benefits you get, like the expansion pass, guarantee of player name, and free credits to spend. Beta access is the bonus, not the other way around.
I am pretty sure that you won't be complaining when, as a premium beta backer, you gain first access into the open beta phase, for example. Premium Beta isn't the last phase of development.
I have paid for premium beta as well, and I don't really see the point of complaint. I also don't really see that I have paid to access beta, the cost is more for the benefits you get, like the expansion pass, guarantee of player name, and free credits to spend. Beta access is the bonus, not the other way around.
It is inevitable that the premium backers will get some kind of "Reward" when Premium Beta comes close to ending, But like KING5TON has said, it isn't a reward for backers it's an incentive to spend more money to get into the next phase because you will get "All of this ... Ta..da!"
To me the "reward" that IS going to come at the end of P-Beta (and second round Beta), will just be proof that it's a cash grab ... And BTW .. I don't want a reward a discount or anything other than getting to play Premium Beta as soon as it is available, not watch others playing it.
Unlike you I paid for Beta access First and foremost .. the other "Perks" are just fluff, I couldn't give a monkeys about them ... And when the Premium Betas are given access to 2nd round first I will be on the side of ANY second round backer that feels they have been let down and having their access falsely delayed
To me the "reward" that IS going to come at the end of P-Beta (and second round Beta), will just be proof that it's a cash grab ... And BTW .. I don't want a reward a discount or anything other than getting to play Premium Beta as soon as it is available, not watch others playing it.
Unlike you I paid for Beta access First and foremost .. the other "Perks" are just fluff, I couldn't give a monkeys about them ... And when the Premium Betas are given access to 2nd round first I will be on the side of ANY second round backer that feels they have been let down and having their access falsely delayed
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Wow, you agree with Frontier? Honestly?! I did not see that coming... amazing!
On the other topic - I'm kind of bored reading how the insurance perk is no big deal, too small to matter much, etc and yet some of the same people saying this are among those constantly mentioning balance and advantage when it comes to other aspects of the game... even down to things such as turning off the engine vibration effect. Seriously... take a look at the consistency of your arguments.
I know I sound like "Yes" man for some, and I frankly don't care. I don't see point of insurance, but I guess some people might like it. However I can understand reasoning behind early access to beta build.
I just don't have any strong feelings about any of these topics discussed here. So here you go, yeah, I am subjective to all this
I come here to these forums not to seek conflict, but get news and engage positively with community. I understand that not everyone share same goal. I got alpha access, but majority of my time is "wasted" on spreading the word and reading forum topics, less playing the game.
Are you sure? I mean, how do you know?.. What experience do you have to support such a statement?...
Sometimes I worry about you Noodle...
Pure cash grab. A bit sad in my opinion. Still love the heck out of this game though. A title I have waited for more than 20 years for.
YEAH! I can take it too! I'm not afraid... Are you?...
Agree. Seems a bit desperate actually. Hope it isn't a sign of things to come.
True gospel Sir.