Great idea. Lol. If it works, let me know! I've only just started prospecting Merope 1A's daylight sids but I have a feeling I'll have a better chance on the dark side of the moon.
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn
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Great idea. Lol. If it works, let me know! I've only just started prospecting Merope 1A's daylight sids but I have a feeling I'll have a better chance on the dark side of the moon.
Probably means nothing... but I've noticed the demand for meta alloys is steadily rising day by day since I've been looking into them. At obsidian orbital yesterday it was in the 500 range currently it's at 677.. Guess that means one wont be enough and being that no one has found one yet this could be a tough nut to crack... :/
You seem to be quite relentlessly negative. Are you actually enjoying ED?
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It could mean any number of things. The Bubble, for example. Or the Shell. Or the Core. Or systems with black holes. Or it could mean within a certain distance of a certain system (e.g. within 20 Ly of Polaris). It's easy to say it obviously meant nebulae now, but that's with the benefit of hindsight (which, as they say, is 20/20).
right i noticed that binary thing few pages back and i did my own recording of a UA and tried to sieve trough the audio. i think the 0 in the end before it goes poof is a "end of transmission" bit. so i listened (did it couple of times actually with same artefact) to see if i could pick up the "beginning of transmission" bit meaning 1. i ended up with this
1
0011001
0010101
110011
101011
0110011
0101011
1010011
1101101
0
after going trough the audio 3 or 4 times noticed 3 distinct groupings. while the whale sound does cover the bits near the end it doesnt do it completely you can still sort of hear them. also noticed on each string of bits the spacing between each bit is about 4 seconds real time so i used it as a guide trough the whale horn thing.
1
0011001
0010101
110011
101011
0110011
0101011
1010011
1101101
0
after going trough the audio 3 or 4 times noticed 3 distinct groupings. while the whale sound does cover the bits near the end it doesnt do it completely you can still sort of hear them. also noticed on each string of bits the spacing between each bit is about 4 seconds real time so i used it as a guide trough the whale horn thing.
Great work!
There's something about this that tickles me in a funny way.
If we were to assume they are indeed shipwrecks, would it make sense to look for them in craters?
It's very simple. Using the power of SCIENCE we can postulate that an extra-steller object crossing the orbital path of a planetary body in such a fashion as to collide at high velocity, will produce an impact crater with a size in proportion to the mass and velocity of the impactor, relative to the physical composition of the impactee and impactor. Given the now critical mass of population of spacecraft now orbiting and landing on said planetary bodies, the odds of the (now) meteorite intersecting with a CMDR's spacecraft before impact is now astronomically high - especially in certain systems within the Pleiades.
Thus, statistical probabilities indicate that any spacecraft wreckage located during surface exploration are most likely to be that of an unlucky, but dedicated, Canonneer having been cut short in their search for the hypothesized link between Meta-Alloys, Barnacles, and UAs. The odds of finding a wreckage associated with an actual Barnacle continues to approach zero as more CMDRs join the hunt.
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A professional expert gave me the answer as to who is behind the Unknown Artefacts. I felt it important to share:
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There's something about this that tickles me in a funny way.
If we were to assume they are indeed shipwrecks, would it make sense to look for them in craters?
It's very simple. Using the power of SCIENCE we can postulate that an extra-steller object crossing the orbital path of a planetary body in such a fashion as to collide at high velocity, will produce an impact crater with a size in proportion to the mass and velocity of the impactor, relative to the physical composition of the impactee and impactor. Given the now critical mass of population of spacecraft now orbiting and landing on said planetary bodies, the odds of the (now) meteorite intersecting with a CMDR's spacecraft before impact is now astronomically high - especially in certain systems within the Pleiades.
Thus, statistical probabilities indicate that any spacecraft wreckage located during surface exploration are most likely to be that of an unlucky, but dedicated, Canonneer having been cut short in their search for the hypothesized link between Meta-Alloys, Barnacles, and UAs. The odds of finding a wreckage associated with an actual Barnacle continues to approach zero as more CMDRs join the hunt.
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Funny you should bring this up, on each of my most recent surveys today, I've come across crashed ships with occupied escape pods in them. It's science!
While searching Merope 2A, I came across two crashed probes within a few km of each other. Coordinates were near a large flat canyon on the dark side, near coordinates 24, -160. Just data points, but these are the first things I've come across that registered along the extreme high bands of the SRV scanner.
well.. I was gonna check Merope 5c some bit.. looks like it has other plans for the evening
You win FD.. You win this time... XD
You win FD.. You win this time... XD
This made me chuckle. Then ten minutes later I burst out and couldn't stop laughing.
I've been poking around merope the last two nights trying to get into the mind of anyone who might have 'placed to be found' a barnacle or otherwise interesting object on a planet surface. The hope was to find some unique surface features that might be an reasonable place to check out, but it's been more difficult that I would have imagined to even do that. I haven't look at all the landable planets yet, but so far haven't found any with clearly distinguishing features.
Has anyone else seen particularly deep canyons or things of that nature that really 'jump out' at you? I'm not convinced the green looking blobs associated with canyon-like features is anything very unique, I've seen them on several bodies. If nothing else, I wouldn't mind a thrilling fly about through some nice steep canyons...
If they aren't placed somewhere like this where someone's likely to look by virtue of the landscape being unique or interesting enough to catch the eye, we'll just be playing the RNG and POI spawns until one finally shows up, or even more daunting, scouring the surface area of all the bodies in the Pleiades, which needless to say might take a while (as in years absent a big dose of luck).
Also, theory time - if barnacles are in fact the objects shown in the Horizons trailer that appear to be alien in origin and share aesthetic features with the UA, perhaps it's a crashed alien ship or a small outpost that's making UAs and sending them out as probes of some kind, thus explaining their scan and transmit while oriented towards merope behavior. Not really an actionable theory unless we find one to poke with a stick. Also, when one is found, given the mechanic of surface activity seems to be shoot the object until goodies pop out, do we really just open fire hoping meta alloys pop out to be scooped? That seems like an ill advised course of action if the thing is making probes to monitor human activity and presumably can relay what it finds back home. Blasting it might be tantamount to a declaration of war. Thoughts?
Has anyone else seen particularly deep canyons or things of that nature that really 'jump out' at you? I'm not convinced the green looking blobs associated with canyon-like features is anything very unique, I've seen them on several bodies. If nothing else, I wouldn't mind a thrilling fly about through some nice steep canyons...
If they aren't placed somewhere like this where someone's likely to look by virtue of the landscape being unique or interesting enough to catch the eye, we'll just be playing the RNG and POI spawns until one finally shows up, or even more daunting, scouring the surface area of all the bodies in the Pleiades, which needless to say might take a while (as in years absent a big dose of luck).
Also, theory time - if barnacles are in fact the objects shown in the Horizons trailer that appear to be alien in origin and share aesthetic features with the UA, perhaps it's a crashed alien ship or a small outpost that's making UAs and sending them out as probes of some kind, thus explaining their scan and transmit while oriented towards merope behavior. Not really an actionable theory unless we find one to poke with a stick. Also, when one is found, given the mechanic of surface activity seems to be shoot the object until goodies pop out, do we really just open fire hoping meta alloys pop out to be scooped? That seems like an ill advised course of action if the thing is making probes to monitor human activity and presumably can relay what it finds back home. Blasting it might be tantamount to a declaration of war. Thoughts?
If no CMDR know for sure what to find, please, don't expect green lights, i believe it only triggers the lights if you get in the vacinity, this can be a pain in the but on the dark side, but what do i know? BE SHARP CMDRS!
As far as landmarks that stand out, the only one that really stands out for me (granted I've only searched some of merope, lots of Pleione, and hardly any of Maia) is a giant crater in Pleione. I can't remember the name, but it's the first landable body in the last "column" on the system map. You can't miss the crater, it's massive.
But I searched through it quite a bit yesterday and came up empty. Two POI's in the base of it, both mining outposts, but nothing out of the ordinary unfortunately.
But I searched through it quite a bit yesterday and came up empty. Two POI's in the base of it, both mining outposts, but nothing out of the ordinary unfortunately.
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After a few hours, nothing remarkable happened, has anyone tried to eject a UA and just watch it on the planet or does it degrade to fast, also has anyone crashed into a planet with a UA in the cargo bay? seeing as the barnacles and UA might be attracted to each other like magnets maybe?
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Yeah. I noticed that same similarity a while ago. My guess is the barnacles are the things we see around it. And they are some sort of byproduct of the crashed warship. Which could easily explain how they are the persistent poi crashed ships like obsidian ant was showing. The UA could just be some sort of SOS beacon pointing to it. Maybe there is only one until we crack it and then the UAs could start pointing all over. Dunno. Speculation at this point. But I definitely think that's a crashed warship in the launch trailer.
PRAISE THE BARNICLE!
The Tar Pits of Maia A7
The Tar Pits of Maia A7
or "How a Planet ate my UA"
So I've spent most of today investigating my theory that the answer we're looking for will be found in either Merope or Maia. I wanted to get some survey data for some planets in Merope, so I did quick surveys of the only two non tidal-locked moons in that system, then went back to Maia for some more random searching. I saw Maia A7 on the system map and thought "Hmm, a planet roughly 50% larger than earth with more than 3 times the mass? Might be worth a look, assuming my thrusters don't just give up in that kind of gravity". Now I don't want you to think that I just assumed it'd have high gravity because of the size and mass. Fact is, I don't have a detailed surface scanner since I traded that out for an AMS (in order to care for my UA baby). So I don't actually know what the gravity was like there, but usually large high-mass planets have alot of gravity, so I knew what I was in for. No pancaking as long as I was careful.
But that wasn't even the beginning of what I should have prepared for.
Upon arrival into orbital cruise, I noticed something odd in the crater-strewn surface ahead - something that looked like a trail of huge black pools. "Weird, probably a graphical issue, but I should check it out just in case." So I headed in that direction...
As I got closer, I began to realize that this looked like it could have been created as a debris trail from a massive ship (capital ship sized or station), though I saw no debris, only inky black splotches. Now I HAD to check it out. I entered glide around that area and proceeded to descend to normal flight altitude. Once this process was complete, I was about 7km above the weird splotches and noticed them glitching out. Okay, probably a graphical issue then, nothing to worry about. How wrong was I.
I went about setting up my usual survey run - I turned my Cobra upside down and flew over the planet at about 4km altitude. Normally I try for 3, but I didn't want to take any risks with the gravity threatening to tear my ship apart. Also, managing my UA was distracting me. And sure enough, as I tried to repair the cargo hatch (it was taking a massive beating over the last few minutes - I guess UA's really don't like heavy gravity), I got the HEAT LEVEL CRITICAL warning. My ship was about to go nuclear. I quickly turned back over and set my throttle to zero, hoping the engines would be able to regulate the situation without the strain of trying to fly in one direction. After a moment, everything cooled off and I was back to normal. "I hate heavy gravity worlds", I thought to myself. Almost in response, the message "Toxic Cargo Corrosion - Cargo Hatch" popped up on my screen. "Thanks, buddy. I know.", I said, as if the UA could even hear me back there in the cargo hold, let alone understand me.
Well, here is where I decided to touch down. No, there wasn't a POI detection on my scanner. Really, I had no good reason to do it other than the fact that I just happened to be directly over one of the big black pools I saw from orbit. Yeah, it's a display bug, but what the hell, why not check it out right? So I spent the next 5 minutes very carefully setting down. Managed it without a scratch. I went through my usual procedure of dumping the UA, fixing up any critical systems, and then deployed my SRV.
Before me lie a great, dark grey wasteland. And there was my UA buddy, sitting with part of its body thoroughly inside the ground. I picked him up real quick to stop his whining and then dropped him back down. He was quieter now, and not in as much pain. The UA's are funny like that. I decided to drive around, see if I can pick up anything on my wave scanner. Sure enough, there were mineral hits everywhere, and a few distant hits that sounded like debris or cargo dumps. So I headed off in that direction. I should have brought the UA with me. As I travelled, I noticed the terrain was strangely difficult to negotiate. It wasn't as if there were steep cliffs or spiky hills or anything like that. In fact, for the most part the terrain was reasonable, maybe a little bumpy in places, but certainly nothing I hadn't dealt with before. Why was my SRV handling like a bull with its legs tied together? I was kicking up loads of black dust and rocky debris as I trudged along through the ground, and even went under the surface a few times. I had to stop a few times, and occasionally when I did, I noticed my wheels jittering like crazy, trying to grab ahold of the incomprehensibly difficult terrain. After some odd, wave-like bounces and rolls, I made it to one of the cargo dumps I had picked up on the scanner. It was protected by some measly drones which I dispatched. I proceeded to scoop up the cargo I found sinking into the muck.
I had figured out by this point that there was definitely something not right about this place. It wasn't just the weird terrain, the treacherous gravity, or the odd SRV behavior. Something just didn't feel right. Not to mention, trying to do any serious surveying of this planet would be a nightmare and very slow (or deadly). "You want a good place to hide something? Try this cesspool.", I thought to myself on my way back to my ship. It wasn't that far, really, but no less than 3 times I felt almost as if my SRV was going to get sucked under the surface. And then I realized - before I got within 300m of my ship, I hadn't heard my UA buddy's distinct dinosaur-like call in quite a while. I'd left him alone with my ship before, for much longer than this, and I'd even gotten pretty far away from him before. He never stopped roaring. It was kinda nice, he was so loud I could hear him from 4+km away. But now he was silent.
I got back to my ship, but he wasn't there. I looked around frantically for him, but he was gone. Did he roll away? I searched the area thoroughly, but he was just gone. I never found him again. As if to add insult to injury, my initial attempt to lift off stalled - I had to struggle with several attempts before the planet finally let me free of its grip and into the skies once again. Was it really tar? Or is the planet alive - and hungry?
Maia A7 ate my UA.
If any of you feel like going to the tar pits (you can see them from low orbit, in case you do), be warned. Not everything that goes there comes back.
RIP UA #667 AKA "Little Buddy"
If there is interest, I have some video of my adventures on this hell-planet, I can upload them after I finish compressing them.
The Tar Pits of Maia A7
or "How a Planet ate my UA"
So I've spent most of today investigating my theory that the answer we're looking for will be found in either Merope or Maia. I wanted to get some survey data for some planets in Merope, so I did quick surveys of the only two non tidal-locked moons in that system, then went back to Maia for some more random searching. I saw Maia A7 on the system map and thought "Hmm, a planet roughly 50% larger than earth with more than 3 times the mass? Might be worth a look, assuming my thrusters don't just give up in that kind of gravity". Now I don't want you to think that I just assumed it'd have high gravity because of the size and mass. Fact is, I don't have a detailed surface scanner since I traded that out for an AMS (in order to care for my UA baby). So I don't actually know what the gravity was like there, but usually large high-mass planets have alot of gravity, so I knew what I was in for. No pancaking as long as I was careful.
But that wasn't even the beginning of what I should have prepared for.
Upon arrival into orbital cruise, I noticed something odd in the crater-strewn surface ahead - something that looked like a trail of huge black pools. "Weird, probably a graphical issue, but I should check it out just in case." So I headed in that direction...
As I got closer, I began to realize that this looked like it could have been created as a debris trail from a massive ship (capital ship sized or station), though I saw no debris, only inky black splotches. Now I HAD to check it out. I entered glide around that area and proceeded to descend to normal flight altitude. Once this process was complete, I was about 7km above the weird splotches and noticed them glitching out. Okay, probably a graphical issue then, nothing to worry about. How wrong was I.
I went about setting up my usual survey run - I turned my Cobra upside down and flew over the planet at about 4km altitude. Normally I try for 3, but I didn't want to take any risks with the gravity threatening to tear my ship apart. Also, managing my UA was distracting me. And sure enough, as I tried to repair the cargo hatch (it was taking a massive beating over the last few minutes - I guess UA's really don't like heavy gravity), I got the HEAT LEVEL CRITICAL warning. My ship was about to go nuclear. I quickly turned back over and set my throttle to zero, hoping the engines would be able to regulate the situation without the strain of trying to fly in one direction. After a moment, everything cooled off and I was back to normal. "I hate heavy gravity worlds", I thought to myself. Almost in response, the message "Toxic Cargo Corrosion - Cargo Hatch" popped up on my screen. "Thanks, buddy. I know.", I said, as if the UA could even hear me back there in the cargo hold, let alone understand me.
Well, here is where I decided to touch down. No, there wasn't a POI detection on my scanner. Really, I had no good reason to do it other than the fact that I just happened to be directly over one of the big black pools I saw from orbit. Yeah, it's a display bug, but what the hell, why not check it out right? So I spent the next 5 minutes very carefully setting down. Managed it without a scratch. I went through my usual procedure of dumping the UA, fixing up any critical systems, and then deployed my SRV.
Before me lie a great, dark grey wasteland. And there was my UA buddy, sitting with part of its body thoroughly inside the ground. I picked him up real quick to stop his whining and then dropped him back down. He was quieter now, and not in as much pain. The UA's are funny like that. I decided to drive around, see if I can pick up anything on my wave scanner. Sure enough, there were mineral hits everywhere, and a few distant hits that sounded like debris or cargo dumps. So I headed off in that direction. I should have brought the UA with me. As I travelled, I noticed the terrain was strangely difficult to negotiate. It wasn't as if there were steep cliffs or spiky hills or anything like that. In fact, for the most part the terrain was reasonable, maybe a little bumpy in places, but certainly nothing I hadn't dealt with before. Why was my SRV handling like a bull with its legs tied together? I was kicking up loads of black dust and rocky debris as I trudged along through the ground, and even went under the surface a few times. I had to stop a few times, and occasionally when I did, I noticed my wheels jittering like crazy, trying to grab ahold of the incomprehensibly difficult terrain. After some odd, wave-like bounces and rolls, I made it to one of the cargo dumps I had picked up on the scanner. It was protected by some measly drones which I dispatched. I proceeded to scoop up the cargo I found sinking into the muck.
I had figured out by this point that there was definitely something not right about this place. It wasn't just the weird terrain, the treacherous gravity, or the odd SRV behavior. Something just didn't feel right. Not to mention, trying to do any serious surveying of this planet would be a nightmare and very slow (or deadly). "You want a good place to hide something? Try this cesspool.", I thought to myself on my way back to my ship. It wasn't that far, really, but no less than 3 times I felt almost as if my SRV was going to get sucked under the surface. And then I realized - before I got within 300m of my ship, I hadn't heard my UA buddy's distinct dinosaur-like call in quite a while. I'd left him alone with my ship before, for much longer than this, and I'd even gotten pretty far away from him before. He never stopped roaring. It was kinda nice, he was so loud I could hear him from 4+km away. But now he was silent.
I got back to my ship, but he wasn't there. I looked around frantically for him, but he was gone. Did he roll away? I searched the area thoroughly, but he was just gone. I never found him again. As if to add insult to injury, my initial attempt to lift off stalled - I had to struggle with several attempts before the planet finally let me free of its grip and into the skies once again. Was it really tar? Or is the planet alive - and hungry?
Maia A7 ate my UA.
If any of you feel like going to the tar pits (you can see them from low orbit, in case you do), be warned. Not everything that goes there comes back.
RIP UA #667 AKA "Little Buddy"
If there is interest, I have some video of my adventures on this hell-planet, I can upload them after I finish compressing them.
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