Should Elite Dangerous add clans/player factions in the future

Should Elite Dangerous add clans/player factions in the future?

  • Absolutely yes, it is a travesty that the game doesn't already.

    Votes: 223 28.8%
  • Yes but I'd prefer Frontier concentrated on adding a lot more depth to the game in general first

    Votes: 155 20.0%
  • Yes but it doesn't personally interest me so as long as it doesn't affect the game play for me I hav

    Votes: 45 5.8%
  • No, I can't see it being more than a niche feature

    Votes: 12 1.5%
  • No, I'd be concerned that it might ruin the game for those who don't clan

    Votes: 90 11.6%
  • Hell no, Elite Dangerous is better for not having it and cutting its own path rather than being just

    Votes: 250 32.3%

  • Total voters
    775
  • Poll closed .
After reading through the abundance of novels written since only yesterday evening, in the usual idiosyncratic cubism surrealist Frontier Forums (literary) style, sprinkled with a dash of the authors' passion and melancholy for the subject, I really have to probe the soul of the writers and ask:

WHERE THE HELL DOES IT SAY "OWNERSHIP OF SPACE" IN THE ABOVE POLL ????!?!?!?!?!?

I ask this question as I fear that the authors of the aforementioned novels are getting ahead of themselves in projecting their own fears as opposed to providing a simple answer for a simple question:

DO YOU WANT ED TO ADD CLANS/PLAYER FACTIONS IN THE FUTURE? (If you find the words "ownership of space" in the above poll, please take a screenshot and then I will provide you with a postal adress, you will mail it to me and I will eat the paper)
I have commented on this before.

Since factions are already in the game, the wording of the poll asks us: Do you want FD to remove the current implementation, and add them again in the future.

I'll not go into the voting options, or the psychological projection going on in your post. :)
People don't have many options now (I think EVE is for another segment of the players) but other similar titles like Star Citizen will be out this year and people who got suckered by Frontier will flock there. If this poll is representative (and I'm not saying it is, I think that there are far more who want true multiplayer) you are looking at an aprox. 52% of ED's players that will have better options elsewhere.

If I was working for Frontier I would definitively take in consideration this multiplayer issue, try to probe it better with scientific data-gathering and interpretation tools and plan for my future player retention rate so that when other titles come out players will have been comfortably settled in the game world they expect and paid for, so that it would actually make sense to stick around.
If I was Frontier, I would ignore requests from players who "got suckered by FD" state to sod off to SC the moment it goes live.
 
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Yes, yes, and yes!!! I want more tools for factions. My faction and peoples in it are only thing why i playing in this game yet... EVE maybe is for me but its haven't flight simulation and galaxy is small... If you like mindless and boring grind choose solo/private group. If you want good roleplay, player interactions and epic events choose open play :)

Current BGS mechanic for supporting minor factions is quite good, only thing i want is able to permanent choose minor fraction as pilot faction.
 
That's the problem. "People" != player base.

The majority of the users on this board are "old school" gamers (as a different poll shows). That's why we can't have nice things!

And yet many of these 'old school people' play games with your so called 'nice things' and just don't want them here. Where does the nonsense idea come from that the older guys and gals playing this game do not play other games, have not played a game since the 1980's and have never been in a guild or clan - btw, that's the impression you are giving with that post.
 
If anyone playing this game thinks "man, frontier suckered me.." and runs off to CIG for Star Citizen, they have bigger problems in life than how good or bad a video game is.

And yet many of these 'old school people' play games with your so called 'nice things' and just don't want them here. Where does the nonsense idea come from that the older guys and gals playing this game do not play other games, have not played a game since the 1980's and have never been in a guild or clan - btw, that's the impression you are giving with that post.

That would be because most of the old guard act like children when a change to their beloved Elite is proposed on these forums. Players having the ability to "clan up" or, as I put it, make the game recognize that they are a part of their chosen minor or major faction, is not going to change the gameplay in any way, shape or form, especially not in a negative way. If I can join the in-game "Diamond Frogs" so that it says "Diamond Frog" instead of "No Faction" in the target/ship info when another player targets me who am I negatively affecting? Nobody. It doesn't change the way the game is played.

That's the most basic feature Frontier could give us right now and with a management tool thrown in on top of it so that the players who formed those factions via these forums (And a select one or two others to avoid burnout locking) could manage their faction member lists, most of this "WE NEED CLANS/GUILDS/ORGS!" griping would be done with.
 
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Yes, that is the truly technical approach. It would have even been a valid one if Frontier would have chosen not to advertise it as a "Definitively" multiplayer and "epic". It still does makes sense technically because other than the obvious technical functionality, the rest is indeed subjective. In this case, from an anthropophobic (fear of other people) perspective one can definitively interpret just "existing" alongside other people (when you're lucky enough to be in the same instance that is) as a definitive multiplayer experience and an MMO.

People don't have many options now (I think EVE is for another segment of the players) but other similar titles like Star Citizen will be out this year and people who got suckered by Frontier will flock there. If this poll is representative (and I'm not saying it is, I think that there are far more who want true multiplayer) you are looking at an aprox. 52% of ED's players that will have better options elsewhere.

If I was working for Frontier I would definitively take in consideration this multiplayer issue, try to probe it better with scientific data-gathering and interpretation tools and plan for my future player retention rate so that when other titles come out players will have been comfortably settled in the game world they expect and paid for, so that it would actually make sense to stick around.

I hope I have adequately responded to your question.


ROFLCOPTER - what year????
Perhaps correct if you are using the Elite calendar - but SC out in 2016 as a finished game?
Never ever in a month of sundays!
 
Over 50% on Yes!. I am also on No 1. Yes!

For those who are on no - simple - if you do not want clan of faction, just not join them :)
 
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Over 50% on Yes!. I am also on No 1. Yes!

For those who are on no - simple - if you do not want clan of faction, just not join them :)

So, you are unable to foresee any situation where some degree of guild support/implementation would or could impact the solo player with your simplistic 'don't like, don't do' explanation, seems legit.
 
IF guilds ever gets implemented, the 48% would still have a game to play. Some would probably leave...but all of them? I dont think so at all.

No, the point we are making is that once guilds are implemented and reach enough mass, they will take over everything and there will be no space left for anyone not in a guild. So, no game anymore.
 
So, you are unable to foresee any situation where some degree of guild support/implementation would or could impact the solo player with your simplistic 'don't like, don't do' explanation, seems legit.

I'm actually unable to see how it would impact players in solo or private group in a negative way. Could you please explain?
 
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No, the point we are making is that once guilds are implemented and reach enough mass, they will take over everything and there will be no space left for anyone not in a guild. So, no game anymore.

Not true - provided the 'ownership' question is successfully resolved.

I'm actually unable to see how it would impact players in solo or private group in a negative way. Could you please explain?

Be to fair - what about open?
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
Over 50% on Yes!. I am also on No 1. Yes!

For those who are on no - simple - if you do not want clan of faction, just not join them :)

That's a ridiculous statement. As it is for the most part when people want to add things that they seem to think won't affect other people. Apart from the fact that something like this will affect everyone who plays the game, it's not always about that. Quite often things shouldn't be added because it goes against the design and feel of the game.
 
The Universe is littered with unforeseen circumstances. If foresight could be used to foretell issues then life would be wonderful perhaps and we'd all live happily ever after. It isnt alas. Clans and guilds are no more that cliques of people and exclusion/inclusion becomes a weapon.
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
The Universe is littered with unforeseen circumstances. If foresight could be used to foretell issues then life would be wonderful perhaps and we'd all live happily ever after. It isnt alas. Clans and guilds are no more that cliques of people and exclusion/inclusion becomes a weapon.

I seem to be having this tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle ;)
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
I think thats called 'Life'. :) I too have a Pungent Effulgent despite the many Stangetudes I encounter. ;)

Hahaha, it is off topic, but that is a truly fantastic response and probably only a few who would understand it :D
 
Hahaha, it is off topic, but that is a truly fantastic response and probably only a few who would understand it :D

Probably. :) Great band (oops given the game away) spent many hours/days of kaleidoscopesque moments in their company, live. Happy days. I must de-vinylise them onto my iphone for flashback inspiration.

Off topic sorry. Another wonder of ED without the requisite clan/guild to endorse it.
 
If anyone playing this game thinks "man, frontier suckered me.." and runs off to CIG for Star Citizen, they have bigger problems in life than how good or bad a video game is.
Rep for this.
That would be because most of the old guard act like children when a change to their beloved Elite is proposed on these forums.
Already feel sorry for repping the post. So consider the rep in that case for providing me with delicious irony. :)
 
Probably. :) Great band (oops given the game away) spent many hours/days of kaleidoscopesque moments in their company, live. Happy days. I must de-vinylise them onto my iphone for flashback inspiration.

Off topic sorry. Another wonder of ED without the requisite clan/guild to endorse it.

I believe you were saying something about cliques and inclusivity...
 
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