Powerplay Powerplay Expansion Mechanics are Broken

[Fendalton]

So here I am, seeing that Pranav is expanding into Peregrina. It's a plague system that needs a Permit if you want to check in game. The only way he can expand is to deliver cargo or reports or whatever to the stations.

Because I don't want the Black Market to be shut down in this permit system due to it's mention of Alien Artifacts and the inability to sell UA's there (and possible content later on) I have been undermining this expansion.

I sit in Open, and see that there is some expansion efforts and no undermining. So I decide to wait for those who are delivering reports or whatever to persuade them to not expand here.

Alas, I keep checking the PowerPlay details, I see nobody in the system in 4 hours and their expansion efforts keep growing, so I have to start on the Violent Protests which take longer, so I will never catch up.



10/10. Solo play influence on PowerPlay is an absolute joke and should be stopped. It becomes a race against the clock rather than actual player interactions. This is a terrible game mechanic decision and it's any wonder the only reason you side with a PP faction these days is to just stock up on the weapon bonuses or join Alliance for your 30% Trade profits in Solo.

 

[drholliday]

It's supposed to be like that. I don't like it either, which is why I stopped playing PP but I don't see FD considering a change. Their stance is that everyone can play everything in every mode and that includes PP. There is no way to directly counter anything in PP. You have to go through the BGS.

 

[Phil^]

It might not be solo, the instancing itself is quite quite terrible at times / often.

 

[dynamicbob]

It might not be solo, the instancing itself is quite quite terrible at times / often.

this might be worth a bug report / suggestion forum post to

 

[Thetele]

This was discussed to death when 1.3 and powerplay came out. And fdev said that they won´t remove pp from solo players.

 

[Snarfbuckle]

This was discussed to death when 1.3 and powerplay came out. And fdev said that they won´t remove pp from solo players.

In all honesty, solo play is not mechanic that is broken with PP, ALL mechanic of powerplay is broken.

 

[Martin Schou]

This is a terrible game mechanic decision and it's any wonder the only reason you side with a PP faction these days is to just stock up on the weapon bonuses or join Alliance for your 30% Trade profits in Solo.

If only we got 30% trade dividends on our profits. We get 20%, and only if we're ranked number 1. That bonus is so fantastic, that it cannot even compete with the best trade routes available through the passive bonuses offered to everyone elsewhere.

Go Alliance.

 

[Jendrassik]

I'm with Antal, the power expanding to Peregrina and am in contact with the people fighting there. As far as I know, everyone is fighting in Open, and are just as confused by not seeing who is opposing there as you are. We always expand in Open because it makes forming wings easier. It seems to be instancing issues that prevent you from seeing each other.

Sorry for disrupting your operations, but it seems a little late to stop it now, and the guys seem pretty set on it.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Yep, same old song, I as well as many other commanders wish that anything influencing the galaxy should be done in open mode only.
I have checked every day the Archon controlled system of Huichi, which is our most undermined system (over 2000% last cycle!)...and have met so far only one commander (Vulture, novice)...
I was hoping to meet plenty of commanders over there, carrying bounties...the outcome, sadly, does not even surprise me... :-(

Sure, all of these can be instancing issues...though I don't have any problem in finding other commanders in some other places of the bubble, such as Arawere at the moment, for the community goal...

 

[BlackOps]

Solo play influence on PowerPlay is an absolute joke and should be stopped. It becomes a race against the clock rather than actual player interactions. This is a terrible game mechanic decision and it's any wonder the only reason you side with a PP faction these days is to just stock up on the weapon bonuses or join Alliance for your 30% Trade profits in Solo.

I strongly disagree. Solo mode is just as valid as open for Powerplay. It's safer to farm merits and deliver fortificatons, especially when your own faction is trying to stop you. I play in solo and group only. Are my efforts any less valid than yours?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not it just for the credits. There are important things to be done that require secrecy and relative safety. Some things are too important to leave to chance in open.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

I strongly disagree. Solo mode is just as valid as open for Powerplay. It's safer to farm merits and deliver fortificatons, especially when your own faction is trying to stop you. I play in solo and group only. Are my efforts any less valid than yours?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not it just for the credits. There are important things to be done that require secrecy and relative safety. Some things are too important to leave to chance in open.

Please...a game where failure is not an option is...oh well, I don't even want to discuss this with you, or this thread is going to be merged with the "Open vs Solo" one.

As for your " especially when your own faction is trying to stop you" and "There are important things to be done that require secrecy and relative safety", you actually sound like doing some lame 5th column stuff, which I hope, you realize is the worse thing you can ever do to PowerPlay and the community...

PS: And now I see your pseudo "AntiFed", as well as your recent activities which shows that you are well aware of the defection mechanism...
...which really makes me believe you have infiltrated one of the Federal Powers in the sole purpose to mess it up from the inside, and put the efforts of all these players to a waste. Oh well, at least you have the honesty to claim you don't have the balls to do it in open (sarcasm)...

 

[BlackOps]

Please...a game where failure is not an option is...oh well, I don't even want to discuss this with you, or this thread is going to be merged with the "Open vs Solo" one.

As for your " especially when your own faction is trying to stop you" and "There are important things to be done that require secrecy and relative safety", you actually sound like doing some lame 5th column stuff, which I hope, you realize is the worse thing you can ever do to PowerPlay and the community...

PS: And now I see your pseudo "AntiFed", as well as your recent activities which shows that you are well aware of the defection mechanism...
...which really makes me believe you have infiltrated one of the Federal Powers in the sole purpose to mess it up from the inside, and put the efforts of all these players to a waste. Oh well, at least you have the honesty to claim you don't have the balls to do it in open (sarcasm)...

You are correct and I take no offense (even if intended.) I disagree that I'm doing anything against the community. I'm part of the community and my fun in the game is just as important as yours.

My sole purpose isn't to mess anything up, either. What I do goes a little way to correcting the federation powers. I knowingly do it, but that's what I do. I make money doing it too. I find it funny to be paid 50MCR by the very power that I'm fighting. Try it. It's fun.

 

[Winterwalker]

My sole purpose isn't to mess anything up, either. What I do goes a little way to correcting the federation powers. I knowingly do it, but that's what I do. I make money doing it too. I find it funny to be paid 50MCR by the very power that I'm fighting. Try it. It's fun.

Right On. Basically because, a Commander's got to eat .. and solo is just as valid as open (wuss ).

This one's for you ..

Spoiler

The essential plot of this movie is that a man with no name plays all factions off against each other, by any means he can, for his own advance, and with NO regrets.

[video=youtube;CpZjvbSC9_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpZjvbSC9_M[/video]

 

[BlackOps]

Right On. Basically because, a Commander's got to eat .. and solo is just as valid as open (wuss ).

This one's for you ..

Spoiler

The essential plot of this movie is that a man with no name plays all factions off against each other, by any means he can, for his own advance, and with NO regrets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpZjvbSC9_M

LOL, nice! I can't give you more rep until I spread it around but the thought is there.

 

[Crimson Kaim]

I strongly disagree. Solo mode is just as valid as open for Powerplay. It's safer to farm merits and deliver fortificatons, especially when your own faction is trying to stop you. I play in solo and group only. Are my efforts any less valid than yours?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not it just for the credits. There are important things to be done that require secrecy and relative safety. Some things are too important to leave to chance in open.

There is absolutely no honor in doing that in solo/private. It is allowed, yes but you don't deserve my and many other's respect. It is blaze your own trail, isn't it? So I better don't judge but I can tell for sure that if someone would say me face to face that he/she actively does powerplay in solo/group I would shoot him out of the void if I could.

I highly discourage powerplay in solo/group but if people want to do that, they better stay there. My KoS list grows fast.

 

[Enef]

You are correct and I take no offense (even if intended.) I disagree that I'm doing anything against the community. I'm part of the community and my fun in the game is just as important as yours.

My sole purpose isn't to mess anything up, either. What I do goes a little way to correcting the federation powers. I knowingly do it, but that's what I do. I make money doing it too. I find it funny to be paid 50MCR by the very power that I'm fighting. Try it. It's fun.

So can I just ask what you mean by correcting?

I mean I know we're kicking the crap out of the Empire so badly their playerbase is having to defect and try to defeat us from the inside, it's kinda amusing really how desperate you guys have become.

 

[Frank K]

Prerequisites for 5th column activity:

1. No sense of personal honor.

2. No respect for the game.

3. Not enough balls to play in Open.

4. A love of wasting time and credits on constantly losing. (at least for the pricks trying it on Hudson)

 

[BlackOps]

Prerequisites for 5th column activity:

1. No sense of personal honor.

2. No respect for the game.

3. Not enough balls to play in Open.

4. A love of wasting time and credits on constantly losing. (at least for the pricks trying it on Hudson)

That's your opinion and I'll respect it. Wrong as it is.

As far as honour, you might have a different sense of it than I do. I might be the hero spy that's slowing you down, just that little bit and doing it consistently. Now that's honour.

I respect the game and follow its rules. I even play in two of the three modes, so I'm showing respect for those modes that you disrespect. (See your # 3). So I have more respect for the game than you do.

I choose to play in solo and group. The NPCs are just as dangerous there as they are in open. Also, in solo, I can't wing up and gank unarmed traders like you can.

I make lots of credits with the bonuses and weekly pay. There's no waste at all.

Play how you like and I'll play how I like. I'm not showing you disrespect for being a ganker in open. Do it all you want.

 

[DragoonKnight]

That's your opinion and I'll respect it. Wrong as it is.

As far as honour, you might have a different sense of it than I do. I might be the hero spy that's slowing you down, just that little bit and doing it consistently. Now that's honour.

I respect the game and follow its rules. I even play in two of the three modes, so I'm showing respect for those modes that you disrespect. (See your # 3). So I have more respect for the game than you do.

I choose to play in solo and group. The NPCs are just as dangerous there as they are in open. Also, in solo, I can't wing up and gank unarmed traders like you can.

I make lots of credits with the bonuses and weekly pay. There's no waste at all.

Play how you like and I'll play how I like. I'm not showing you disrespect for being a ganker in open. Do it all you want.

You cant be a hero spy without danger. There is no danger in being interdicted by NPCs.
Your role is more of an anonymous backstabber.
Come to open and then you can at least have something resembling honor. Maybe you will die, maybe you will not, but is it not better to take that risk than to live in fear and in hiding?

 

[DragoonKnight]

I will tell you that at the very least you will have some human interaction in open and that does not always involve being on the receiving end of some lasers.