UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Rekah

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For some reason I'm now five hours late for bed :D

A: S 1 E 25.85 with angle of 341
B: N 2.4 E 23.56 with angle of 344
C: N 25.33 E 25.53 with angle of 315

I did a thing on gimp (found the line tool and played with rotate to make degrees) using a known pixel size (although I should have used a thinner line with zoom on)
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I'm guessing they point somewhere around 31 North, 20.5 East but I've not found anything yet, although there is a huge mountain (like Close Encounters) in the distance, it even has some rocks to shoot at :D.

Just can't stop editing this post!

I'm guessing if someone is near the barnacles at 21.9135, 96.9802 or 23.1717, 94.0998 (according to the look-up table) that they'll get an almost due West (270 degree) view through the two spires.
This will at the very least confirm that they all probably point to the same place on the planet.
Now we just need to do this with the other planets we have found barnacles on (I have an idea brewing... :p)
 
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Kurt Ambrose

Kurt Ambrose
This may be a late sort of arrival idea, and off the subject of the planetary barnacle alignment theory, is there an underlying reason behind calling these objects "barnacles"? I know we find them on airless, large rocks floating in space, but barnacles? To describe that? If they are barnacles, would that sort of make the pods pearls? This link contains a brief description of how a grain of sand, will fall inside the opening of an oyster, and then becomes coated in layers and layers of the material that lines the inner shells of oysters. We can see that the barnies show some of their inner green, glowing material on the outside, maybe to show that the inside of the barnies is the same stuff as the meta pods.

http://www.livescience.com/32289-how-do-oysters-make-pearls.html

Also, this link talks about "limpets" and how they are related to real barnacles. The picture of the "limpet" looks like a top down view of the alien "barnacles".

http://www.wildsingapore.com/wildfacts/glossary/limpetbarnacle.htm

I just find it odd that FD gave this alien object an AQUATIC quality, when the primary train of thought seems to be the Thargoids, who are bugs?????
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Kurt Ambrose said:
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I just find it odd that FD gave this alien object an AQUATIC quality, when the primary train of thought seems to be the Thargoids, who are bugs?????
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Probably because we're wrong, or the Thargoids have adapted - possibly as a result of coming into contact with another species. ;)
 
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irongut

irongut
Kurt Ambrose said:
This may be a late sort of arrival idea, and off the subject of the planetary barnacle alignment theory, is there an underlying reason behind calling these objects "barnacles"? I know we find them on airless, large rocks floating in space, but barnacles? To describe that?
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According to the description of meta-alloys, deep space explorers named them large barnacles. This was presumably due to their visual resemblance to aquatic barnacles on Earth. That doesn't mean they are an aquatic species or even vaguely related to Earth barnacles except visually.
 

simulacrae

simulacrae
Well here are my attempts at aligning things using the 2 "fruit bearing" spikes as the galactic bar Sag A as center and one of the spikes as Pleiades ... gave me two potential alignments ... I managed somehow to invert things
(UP/Down mishap ... annoying but im not going to redo it atm as it does not affect outcome of coordinates)
The problem with things at this scale ... there is alot of leeway with the centerpoints of the spikes... So while im getting nice detailed numbers ... the margin of error is quite large. For reference I based this on a 2d plane ... So from X/Y/Z ED coordinates i am using X and Z as my X and Y .... ya messy (didnt want to get into trying to measure the heights of spikes :p)

Attempt A
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Attempt B
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Unfortunately im not seeing a magical nebula alignment with spikes ... yet :)
 

Kurt Ambrose

Kurt Ambrose
Right, but the first reports of the barnacles came from Galnet, which presumably means "NPC explorers" found them first and named them, not real players, meaning this piece of information was created by FD intentionally. Not because they are exactly like the barnacles here on Earth, you're right there, but maybe to give us a hint. After all, the UA's communicate using Morse code, so FD isnt too afraid to hide hints in strange places.
 

TinyPwny

TinyPwny
Talking about morse, which is basically a human invention... I've always wondered whether the UA could be a human creation, maybe some biotech invention by some of those people who left the bubble long ago. They look alien, but are they?
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Kurt Ambrose said:
Right, but the first reports of the barnacles came from Galnet, which presumably means "NPC explorers" found them first and named them, not real players, meaning this piece of information was created by FD intentionally. Not because they are exactly like the barnacles here on Earth, you're right there, but maybe to give us a hint. After all, the UA's communicate using Morse code, so FD isnt too afraid to hide hints in strange places.
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The first information on the barnacles was from the Meta-Alloys, commodity description. Other than that, you are right. The barnacles were known to NPC explorers.
 

crushdepth

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TinyPwny said:
Talking about morse, which is basically a human invention... I've always wondered whether the UA could be a human creation, maybe some biotech invention by some of those people who left the bubble long ago. They look alien, but are they?
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This is my belief - it's our generation ship relatives, they've been isolated for so long they've cooked up their own weird branch of biotechnology, maybe using alien life forms they found wherever they stopped. Anyway, it's got human fingerprints all over it.

Aliens don't use morse code, pretty sure about that. It's a dead giveaway.
 
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DMaster

DMaster
I can't get the persistent Anaconda-Crashside out of my mind. Have you ever thought about a secret human made genetically Experiment for a more efficient material extraction?

Additionally i want to share my chemical Analysis of the Materials found at the Barnacles with you. The number of analysis for PS JC-U B3-2 Plant 2 is quite low, but due to the Bug letting my ship levitate after relog in 23 km hight, i don't want to visit this Planet.

Barnacle-Fundorte1b.jpg
 

simulacrae

simulacrae
TFW Primus said:
S Maybe that logo needs to be overlayed and rotated with the other two on the barnacle and somehow warped into 3 dimensions.

Simulacrae, any idea what I'm talking about? Can you run some photoshop-fu on this? Maybe I just need to make a 3D model of the logo, duplicate it a couple of times, and start to bend it to see what I can come up with.
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HA! I appreciate the faith in my graphic skills ... will think about how to do this :) Reminds me of the Godel Esher Bach book ...
Godel-Escher-Bach-edriverrun-05.jpg
 

AKoM

AKoM
Rekah said:
That was my next effort :D
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-15 Degrees of tilt was the best I could do with a round number (kept bouncing on the planet if I got any lower) and still keep the important bits in shot (the centre mass, the two spires and the experimental control spike I'm using as the back of the "arrow"). I also made sure that rotational tilt was zeroed too this time.

I did notice that almost directly above the barnacles was this...
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Must check co-ordinates to see if there are any barnacles on the opposide side of the planet, without a clear view of this part of space.
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What did you find?
Also, is the barnacle placed in such a way that this always is in view like this. Even with the spin of the planet?
 

Lateralus

Lateralus
crushdepth said:
This is my belief - it's our generation ship relatives, they've been isolated for so long they've cooked up their own weird branch of biotechnology, maybe using alien life forms they found wherever they stopped. Anyway, it's got human fingerprints all over it.

Aliens don't use morse code, pretty sure about that. It's a dead giveaway.
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That would be a bit disappointing... plus if the code was alien, the community would not have a hope in hell of figuring out the clues. I think it is alien.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
yoda711 said:
Perhaps a better way to get more accurate barnacle spike coordinates for the map theory might be to position your ship over each one, looking straight down, and jot down the lat/long. This would remove the error introduced by perspective effects. FD gave us lat/long to 4 decimal places, let's use it.

My idea was to enter these coordinates into a matrix which could then be manupulated (rotated and scaled) to match up the spikes with known points in the galaxy map (merope, sol, sagA...). This would result in actual (X, ?, Z) galaxy coordinates you could aim for, to see if there's a nebula there, somewhere along the Y axis (rather than trying to guess based on an image). Again this is an example of where a computer tool would make things easier, but certainly not required.

footnote... why FD didn't make Z the out-of-plane direction, really sets off my OCD.
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A thought has just occured (actually two, it happens occasionally!): 1) if this were a star map then how about the length of the spikes equating to magnitude? I think there are 8 large spikes. 2) could this be a map of the Pleiades?
 

crushdepth

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Lateralus said:
That would be a bit disappointing... plus if the code was alien, the community would not have a hope in hell of figuring out the clues. I think it is alien.
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I think it would be cool. Pretty sure after all that isolation they would have cooked up all kinds of strange ideas, weird religions and serious attitude problems (with us). And if they have advanced biotech who knows what they've done to themselves. They might make the thargoids look like pet poodles :)

When I finish my flight back from Sagittarius A* (groan) I'm planning to run an expedition to Barnard's Loop, looking for them.
 
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