To be honest, I'd go do something else until the next update comes up, which according to MB is supposed to take care of the barnacle spawning bug. I've seen too many instances where I've gone to a known barnacle location and it wasn't there, so I had to relog to get it to spawn, sometimes more than once. I'm going to stop exploring planetary surfaces for barnacles until I know the bug is fixed. Otherwise I can't really cross-out areas since I don't know if there are not barnacles there, or if they are just not spawning.
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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To be honest, I'd go do something else until the next update comes up, which according to MB is supposed to take care of the barnacle spawning bug. I've seen too many instances where I've gone to a known barnacle location and it wasn't there, so I had to relog to get it to spawn, sometimes more than once. I'm going to stop exploring planetary surfaces for barnacles until I know the bug is fixed. Otherwise I can't really cross-out areas since I don't know if there are not barnacles there, or if they are just not spawning.
I've heard those sounds before while searching for the original barnacles. Nothing new.
So yeah, sorry for this, hope you are wearing your hats.
Hmm, so, with the news form Prof. Ishmail hitting today i had a thought. Bit of a rough day at work so i hope i'm thinking straight, but:
Something about the research results surrounding the UA's strikes me as odd.
UA's point towards Merope, regardless if undamaged or damaged, right?
UA's use ANYthing around them to repair themselves, it just so happens that meta alloys have superior properties compared to other metals/resources and so if available an UA would always "choose" to use MA's.
What does that mean for the Barnacle's and it's usage? Do they exist only to 'harvest' materials an UA would need?
I'm now going to throw some wild thoughts out there, strap your tinfoil hat's on fast.
- It's very unlikely that Barnacles only exist to repair artifacts strewn around in various regions of space, only to have those artifacts point right back in their general direction, in order to have an ideal repair opportunity.
- Also remember the 3d pictures of the scanning ship being send to merope. Something must be processing/using them. Right in Merope. What other use would those pictures have? OR is there any clue to other transmissions leaving merope?
- Barnacle's (very likely) extract common resources out of the ground. Do they also extract Meta-alloys or somehow "make" them? Does Meta Alloy exist in the planets crust or does it get manufactured by a barnacle combining existing material? In any case a BA site would be an ideal R&R site.... if an alien craft consist of the same materials as an UA, would a barnacle site not provide a nice base for repairs and the like? Or a base to gain building materials from? "Grow your own concrete" or something along those lines.
- An UA would be a nice pointer to for whoever comes looking for a site for r&r? Not an exact set of coords but maybe a central hub (M5C) You could even argue that whoever 'uses' an UA would get announced to the place he/she/it get's send to beforehand by sending the 3d models.
- Looking at a Barnacle site makes you wonder how much of the actual thing is above ground, it is very likely that we just see a small part of a larger structure/organism. We all heard the underground rumbling and other sounds too.
I am aware of Barnacles being found anywhere around the 7 sisters - but the UA's only pointing at Merope - might be a central structure/control center. I'm going to also take another look at the BA-site pattern in relation to merope maybe i can find something.
It is entirely possible that Barnacle's are just another hint in a bigger picture and maybe point at something else, but what if the middle structure can be opened (if you look at the pictures closely it always seemed to me like a claw consisting of the upper appendages / six "fingers" enclosing/protecting a middle "structure") revealing a central unit.
Not saying they are hatching there - but maybe a control relay or similar (remember the info on our ships being send to merope and not going anywhere), maybe just an entrance to a deeper structure.
- Can we maybe pretend to be a badly damaged alien ship to get the Barnacle to react? Throw damaged UA's at it or.. any ideas?
- Is the pattern of the site maybe a "key" riddle to get the structure to open? Experiment with MA's and UA's?
- Would sending the "right" 3d picture open it - a security handshake perhaps? Can we manipulate UA signals to look like.. well.. NOT like a human ship but.. uh.. over to the historians/thargoid/alien experts (whoever knows what Thar.. things should look like). A blown up UA maybe?
Yeah, i know, been wild days of impossible speculations so i thought i just throw this one out there as well, if i managed to make you get a bigger TFhat, the next virtu-beer's on me (hey, it's the thought that counts).
Also i don't know how that actually helps us at the stage we are at right now, but maybe it could lead of to some more theories based on it.
If there's holes in this theory, please point them out to me, i would like nothing better than to stop thinking about this stupid thing. Elite gives me a serious case of solve-dat-ocd
Hmm, so, with the news form Prof. Ishmail hitting today i had a thought. Bit of a rough day at work so i hope i'm thinking straight, but:
Something about the research results surrounding the UA's strikes me as odd.
UA's point towards Merope, regardless if undamaged or damaged, right?
UA's use ANYthing around them to repair themselves, it just so happens that meta alloys have superior properties compared to other metals/resources and so if available an UA would always "choose" to use MA's.
What does that mean for the Barnacle's and it's usage? Do they exist only to 'harvest' materials an UA would need?
I'm now going to throw some wild thoughts out there, strap your tinfoil hat's on fast.
- It's very unlikely that Barnacles only exist to repair artifacts strewn around in various regions of space, only to have those artifacts point right back in their general direction, in order to have an ideal repair opportunity.
- Also remember the 3d pictures of the scanning ship being send to merope. Something must be processing/using them. Right in Merope. What other use would those pictures have? OR is there any clue to other transmissions leaving merope?
- Barnacle's (very likely) extract common resources out of the ground. Do they also extract Meta-alloys or somehow "make" them? Does Meta Alloy exist in the planets crust or does it get manufactured by a barnacle combining existing material? In any case a BA site would be an ideal R&R site.... if an alien craft consist of the same materials as an UA, would a barnacle site not provide a nice base for repairs and the like? Or a base to gain building materials from? "Grow your own concrete" or something along those lines.
- An UA would be a nice pointer to for whoever comes looking for a site for r&r? Not an exact set of coords but maybe a central hub (M5C) You could even argue that whoever 'uses' an UA would get announced to the place he/she/it get's send to beforehand by sending the 3d models.
- Looking at a Barnacle site makes you wonder how much of the actual thing is above ground, it is very likely that we just see a small part of a larger structure/organism. We all heard the underground rumbling and other sounds too.
I am aware of Barnacles being found anywhere around the 7 sisters - but the UA's only pointing at Merope - might be a central structure/control center. I'm going to also take another look at the BA-site pattern in relation to merope maybe i can find something.
It is entirely possible that Barnacle's are just another hint in a bigger picture and maybe point at something else, but what if the middle structure can be opened (if you look at the pictures closely it always seemed to me like a claw consisting of the upper appendages / six "fingers" enclosing/protecting a middle "structure") revealing a central unit.
- Can we maybe pretend to be a badly damaged alien ship to get the Barnacle to react? Throw damaged UA's at it or.. any ideas?
- Is the pattern of the site maybe a "key" riddle to get the structure to open? Experiment with MA's and UA's?
- Would sending the "right" 3d picture open it - a security handshake perhaps? Can we manipulate UA signals to look like.. well.. NOT like a human ship but.. uh.. over to the historians/thargoid/alien experts (whoever knows what Thar.. things should look like). A blown up UA maybe?
Yeah, i know, been wild days of impossible speculations so i thought i just throw this one out there as well, if i managed to make you get a bigger TFhat, the next virtu-beer's on me (hey, it's the thought that counts).
Also i don't know how that actually helps us at the stage we are at right now, but maybe it could lead of to some more theories based on it.
If there's holes in this theory, please point them out to me, i would like nothing better than to stop thinking about this stupid thing. Elite gives me a serious case of solve-dat-ocd
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Hey guys, I posted these a few pages back, and I've done a bit of investigating. Excuse the rough drawing, but I'm just throwing something out there. This is about the symbol on the barnacles itself, and what I think it could be related to.
This is the Nebra Sky Disk, dated around 1600 BC and one of the oldest that makes mention of the Pleiades nebula. The red lines are a rough drawing of the barnacle symbol on it, with a comparison picture next to it. In this instance, there is also a label for what each element on the disk represents:
The central "circle" on the disk represents the Sun.
The right side, is the Moon.
The bottom element, is supposed to be a Sun Ship (as in, something to travel to the sun?)
The far left and right elements are horizon lines. In this instance they could be read as "boundaries" for the purpose of our search.
Now, if you look closely, the elements are labeled. We can see the Pleiades, which is a cluster of 7 dots (seven sisters). The rest are representations of different stars and constellations visible in the night sky. Now here is a list of what I have found about each one of the named objects:
Capricorn Constellation - Contains Nebula NGC 7099 (No idea if it is within the game, or if it's there under a different name).
Lupus Constellation - Contains Nebulae B228, IC4406 (Also called "Retina Nebula"), and NGC 5882
Eridanus Constellation - Contains Nebula NGC 1535, Achenar (or Archernar) is its brightest star.
Ursa Major Constellation:
Merak - It's a star in the Ursa Major constellation.
Mizar and Alcor - Are stars in the Ursa Major constellation.
Ursa Major also contains the Owl Nebula, also known as Messier 97, or NGC 3587
There are many other objects within these constellations and around these star systems, but these are the ones that I found to be within out galaxy. (A lot of the other items are millions of lys away in other galaxies).
Lastly, the Nebra Sky Disk uses our Sun as the center-point. If the barnacle symbol is loosely related to it, maybe we can find something by using Sol as the center.
I might be going on a wild goose chase here, but there might be something to look out for on these ancient artifacts as related to the barnacle symbol.
This is the Nebra Sky Disk, dated around 1600 BC and one of the oldest that makes mention of the Pleiades nebula. The red lines are a rough drawing of the barnacle symbol on it, with a comparison picture next to it. In this instance, there is also a label for what each element on the disk represents:
The central "circle" on the disk represents the Sun.
The right side, is the Moon.
The bottom element, is supposed to be a Sun Ship (as in, something to travel to the sun?)
The far left and right elements are horizon lines. In this instance they could be read as "boundaries" for the purpose of our search.
Now, if you look closely, the elements are labeled. We can see the Pleiades, which is a cluster of 7 dots (seven sisters). The rest are representations of different stars and constellations visible in the night sky. Now here is a list of what I have found about each one of the named objects:
Capricorn Constellation - Contains Nebula NGC 7099 (No idea if it is within the game, or if it's there under a different name).
Lupus Constellation - Contains Nebulae B228, IC4406 (Also called "Retina Nebula"), and NGC 5882
Eridanus Constellation - Contains Nebula NGC 1535, Achenar (or Archernar) is its brightest star.
Ursa Major Constellation:
Merak - It's a star in the Ursa Major constellation.
Mizar and Alcor - Are stars in the Ursa Major constellation.
Ursa Major also contains the Owl Nebula, also known as Messier 97, or NGC 3587
There are many other objects within these constellations and around these star systems, but these are the ones that I found to be within out galaxy. (A lot of the other items are millions of lys away in other galaxies).
Lastly, the Nebra Sky Disk uses our Sun as the center-point. If the barnacle symbol is loosely related to it, maybe we can find something by using Sol as the center.
I might be going on a wild goose chase here, but there might be something to look out for on these ancient artifacts as related to the barnacle symbol.
Interesting. Good thinking.
anybody notice this posted by ZAC
***Carrier Signal Compromised***
Hey guys,
Some of the eagle-eyed amongst you may have noticed that there have been a few reports of compromised carrier signals in local news bulletins.
Keep an eye out for these on your travels as they may lead you to something of interest.
Mysterioulsy yours,
Zac
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Good news. Will be sure to check it out on the weekend. Thanks Jorge!
I just saw that hint, too and keep an eye on the thread.
I'm wondering if this carrier signal is actually only in the news bulletins or in the bulletin (mission) boards as well. I saw some missions that read something in the line of "decrypting carrier signal" followed by the mission itself.
I'm wondering if this carrier signal is actually only in the news bulletins or in the bulletin (mission) boards as well. I saw some missions that read something in the line of "decrypting carrier signal" followed by the mission itself.
"Carrier signal" has no particular meaning, it's just part of the way that messages are transmitted. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_wave
Folks, just a thought here, forgive me if it's already been mentioned somewhere amidst the countless pages of this hyperthread...
I've read a lot of posts about entire arsenals of ship weapons being unloaded into the poor barnacles, but don't recall SRVs being used for anything other than obtaining pods and having a pop at a barnacle to see if it would explode.
Has anybody tried shooting the symbols on the barnacles using an SRV ?
i.e. shooting one symbol after another in various combinations?
Or (and this is the one I'd be trying, except I can't because I'm out beyond the Eagle Nebula right now) THREE SRVs all shooting the symbols at the same time like this?
It's just that the symbol looks SO much like a power symbol that it's just begging to be pushed...
I've read a lot of posts about entire arsenals of ship weapons being unloaded into the poor barnacles, but don't recall SRVs being used for anything other than obtaining pods and having a pop at a barnacle to see if it would explode.
Has anybody tried shooting the symbols on the barnacles using an SRV ?
i.e. shooting one symbol after another in various combinations?
Or (and this is the one I'd be trying, except I can't because I'm out beyond the Eagle Nebula right now) THREE SRVs all shooting the symbols at the same time like this?
It's just that the symbol looks SO much like a power symbol that it's just begging to be pushed...
Interesting - so MAs could be a 'preferred' material for UAs by design...
Either the MAs are meant for the UAs, or perhaps something/someone else is producing them to *protect* something from UAs? Possibly on/in Merope?
Also the wording of Palin's statement is interesting - if UAs harvest to combat damage, then it suggests that human environments are inimical to UAs - they obviously 'like' hard vacuum - but as soon as they're placed in an environment with air(? Or an atmosphere?) they receive damage and so try to repair theselves.
Also, if we take the degradation post-scooping and dropping from a ship (leave the SRV out of it for the moment) as not solely a feature of the game mechanic to prevent cargo litter, then it suggests that exposure to air/atmosphere is enough to cause continual degradation of the UA even when placed back in hard vacuum again.
Not exactly a great design for something designed to conquer humanity... Leading me to think these things are benign after all...
Carrier signals and now this....
Distant Worlds has turned up something quite interesting... Turn your speakers up
[video]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMcK3eWO9DkI1S6O51d6hQQ[/video]
1st Alien Encounter on Distant Worlds
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They are investigating it now. It may just be ambient sounds of the Anaconda.
Distant Worlds has turned up something quite interesting... Turn your speakers up
[video]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMcK3eWO9DkI1S6O51d6hQQ[/video]
1st Alien Encounter on Distant Worlds
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They are investigating it now. It may just be ambient sounds of the Anaconda.
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https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/28-JAN-3302
Sigh. What a crock. This just confirms players had no agency in the failures, save some arbitrary decision-making process. Glad I wasted my time with Walker Survey...
EDIT: And because whatever... it's only as inane as this whole situation. I'm already expecting no reply.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=228352&p=3494822#post3494822
Sigh. What a crock. This just confirms players had no agency in the failures, save some arbitrary decision-making process. Glad I wasted my time with Walker Survey...
EDIT: And because whatever... it's only as inane as this whole situation. I'm already expecting no reply.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=228352&p=3494822#post3494822
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What do you think, could this lead to self repairing ship-hulls? or even some form of weapon?
One.
Very.
Very.
Long one.
[video=youtube;znlU8nR5hI8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znlU8nR5hI8[/video]
Oh yeah... very long...
Dunno, but keep away the Japanese school girls...
While plotting a route i somehow got back to the pattern again, it's Barnard's loop again, spiced with some barnacle arrangement patterns.
So, if we go with this
play with the angles a bit and overlay it with our BSites
we could use the two main spikes, the middle axis as well as the middle structure as reference points (note the line of stars in orion pointing exactly along the axis)
and closer from the other side
I'm on my way there, but if anyone already took a closer look (especially at the isolated small middle part of BL where the central structure would be) let me know please.
On another note, could the mysterious carrier waves get thrown at you in signal sources? Maybe somewhere where usually none would occur? I think the wording was "keep an eye out for .." don't know why it makes me think it's somewhere unusual..but, yeah. So, keep an eye out Cmdrs
So, if we go with this
play with the angles a bit and overlay it with our BSites
we could use the two main spikes, the middle axis as well as the middle structure as reference points (note the line of stars in orion pointing exactly along the axis)
and closer from the other side
I'm on my way there, but if anyone already took a closer look (especially at the isolated small middle part of BL where the central structure would be) let me know please.
On another note, could the mysterious carrier waves get thrown at you in signal sources? Maybe somewhere where usually none would occur? I think the wording was "keep an eye out for .." don't know why it makes me think it's somewhere unusual..but, yeah. So, keep an eye out Cmdrs
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