ANNOUNCEMENT Server downtime - bonus credit weekend

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
On additional thought... wouldn't it make better sense to apply any "credit" to the following week during the timeframe in which the server was unavailable. I work the weekend (night shift). I had several hours on Friday night (I'm in the USA) where I was planning to play and couldn't. Passing out "free money" over the weekend doesn't help me one bit. If frontier were to allow me to make those additional credits during the same gameplay window NEXT WEEK when I'll actually be able to play then, yeah, that would be cool.

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Mr_Foxhound said:
can everyone check there privilege at the letterbox 7 hour down time equates to a night of sleep ...in other words HARDEN THE FRAK UP
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Privilege? If this were a free game then yeah. I've paid quite a lot of money for this privilege. I expect downtimes (it's online) but if Frontier is willing to do something to make amends... that's really cool.

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Ziljan said:
Sorry, but how exactly does this benefit people who were locked out of the Distant World expedition?
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Simple: Frontier could offer an exploration-based community goal to coincide with when most of the Distant World folks will be returning to the bubble. It would make sense too: what faction wouldn't want to attract all that deep space data?
 

Kristov

K
Ziljan said:
Sorry, but how exactly does this benefit people who were locked out of the Distant World expedition?
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What missions did you miss due to the down time Ziljan? How much in fines did you incur due the down time causing missions to fail?

Oh, right, none and nothing, so why exactly are you whining?


CMDR Rasputin said:
Eh. What about traders? Explorers? The grindiest professions got shafted by downtime, and then shafted again by this bonus.

I say, either give something go everyone, or give nothing at all.
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Same response to you, what missions did you fail, what fines did you incur?

Jesus on crutches, what the hell is wrong with some of you? An unexpected event happened, the servers were down for hours, and FD is saying sorry by giving a little extra coin to the people directly impacted by that downtime in the game, the people who failed missions and incurred fines due to that. So some of you have to whine about it and complain and act like spoiled little entitled prats because YOU didn't actually lose anything but you want something anyway?
 

CMDR WHISKEY ROSCOE

CMDR WHISKEY ROSCOE
I am very pleased with your response to an unavoidable problem in gaming. Things Break and need to be fixed.
Thanks so much FD.... I just love companies that love me back. However I still have to get rid of my Hang Over..... Last night i was flying just the same.

********** Remember Whiskey Loves You **********
 

Turjan

Turjan
CMDR Rasputin said:
Eh. What about traders? Explorers? The grindiest professions got shafted by downtime, and then shafted again by this bonus.

I say, either give something go everyone, or give nothing at all.
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I agree.

The trouble is, this compensation offer is now coming across as a well meaning but poorly thought out knee-jerk response. And in a way, that's actually worse than not offering any form of compensation at all.

All it's serving to do is remind players that yes, while they're all equal, some are apparently more equal than others.

As an explorer out on the DWE myself, I couldn't care less about financial compensation really - if I did, I wouldn't have chosen exploration as my primary profession after all would I? ;)

What I've lost with the server outage is TIME and that is something Frontier is powerless to replace. Nor did I expect them to try, to be honest. And I'm sure a lot of explorers feel the same way. So from our perspective, if Frontier hadn't offered any compensation to anyone, we'd have shrugged and just accepted that loss of time as "one of those things".

But now thanks to this well-meant but rushed gesture of goodwill, we're left feeling like a diabetic kid whose friends are all being offered sweets, and the person handing the sweets out turns to us and says "Oh...sorry, I forgot you were diabetic..." :(

There's no malice involved, it's simply an oversight of the kind that leaves everyone feeling a little embarrassed and uncomfortable.

Truth is, I don't believe there is anything in the game's mechanics that Frontier can offer to those of us on the DWE as compensation for those lost hours of journey time. But the fact everyone else was offered something and then Frontier added as an apparent afterthought "exploration needs more consideration sadly" and they'd "be sure to discuss it" makes explorers feel (once again) like some sort of fifth wheel in the game.
 

Newbie2

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Laste said:
Troll be trolling
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Not to choose sides or anything.but he does kind of have a point.It wasn't the end of the world no.However all this could have been prevented by a simple offline mode.Some of us work crazy hours and have a limited time to play.when I psyche myself up to play this and I only have a few hours and the game I really desperately want to play is suddenly offline and I can't play I am going to get frustrated.Not the fact that I don't understand that outages happen as I work in IT myself,its just that it was 8 hours of game time or basically my off time that I wanted to play.I do understand that you can do other things.watch a movie,read a book.But that doesn't mean I want to do that...I want to play this game and I couldn't.and that makes me sad and frustrates me as the next open window for me to play is only next week.:)
 

Eminor

Eminor
[sarcasm]
Man this is so unfair. I wasn't even affected by the downtime and now I've got this enforced 20% bonus...
So now I'm going to have to buy X tonnes of Palladium and dump them just to compensate.
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SGT TickleFight

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Very cool, FD. I assume the 20% bonus counts toward the combat CG in Chi Lin, correct?

Unfortunately, I will be busy about 35 of those 48 hours (but I care little about credits - just the CG).
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Turjan said:
I agree.

The trouble is, this compensation offer is now coming across as a well meaning but poorly thought out knee-jerk response. And in a way, that's actually worse than not offering any form of compensation at all.

All it's serving to do is remind players that yes, while they're all equal, some are apparently more equal than others.

As an explorer out on the DWE myself, I couldn't care less about financial compensation really - if I did, I wouldn't have chosen exploration as my primary profession after all would I? ;)

What I've lost with the server outage is TIME and that is something Frontier is powerless to replace. Nor did I expect them to try, to be honest. And I'm sure a lot of explorers feel the same way. So from our perspective, if Frontier hadn't offered any compensation to anyone, we'd have shrugged and just accepted that loss of time as "one of those things".

But now thanks to this well-meant but rushed gesture of goodwill, we're left feeling like a diabetic kid whose friends are all being offered sweets, and the person handing the sweets out turns to us and says "Oh...sorry, I forgot you were diabetic..." :(

There's no malice involved, it's simply an oversight of the kind that leaves everyone feeling a little embarrassed and uncomfortable.

Truth is, I don't believe there is anything in the game's mechanics that Frontier can offer to those of us on the DWE as compensation for those lost hours of journey time. But the fact everyone else was offered something and then Frontier added as an apparent afterthought "exploration needs more consideration sadly" and they'd "be sure to discuss it" makes explorers feel (once again) like some sort of fifth wheel in the game.
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Part of the problem is that those of us still here in the bubble incurred real losses due to the downtime. Missed paying off a few fines that have now turned into bounties. Failed to deliver on 4 million credit smuggling mission because I couldn't logon to complete it. Yes. We all lost time. For explorers that really is all that was lost. For many of us in the bubble we lost much more. We lost credits. We lost major/minor faction rep.
 

dxm55

Banned
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Agony_Aunt said:
Has anyone mentioned us poor explorers yet?

*ducks*

Nah, its cool. By the time we return we will have millions anyway. Those of us who return that is. :D
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A wing of gankers could blow you up at Sag A* and insta-return you to the bubble, if that's what you really want. :D: P
 

Wicz

Wicz
It's a nice gesture, but not much good for people who can't play during the bonus period.

Wouldn't a <insert amount> credit gift be a better idea, so nobody gets left out?
 

Newbie2

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Wicz said:
It's a nice gesture, but not much good for people who can't play during the bonus period.

Wouldn't a <insert amount> credit gift be a better idea, so nobody gets left out?
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I would prefer this too,however how do they handle newcomers to the game?.In my opinion the best part of the game for me was starting out in a sidewinder working my way to my first bigger ship.giving a newbie 500000 credits would destroy the beginning game experience.
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
Ozric
Wicz said:
It's a nice gesture, but not much good for people who can't play during the bonus period.

Wouldn't a <insert amount> credit gift be a better idea, so nobody gets left out?
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No not remotely. It would set even more of a precedent and then people would fight over what figure is "reasonable" to them, how long does the server have to be down for people to start asking again, is the amount tied to the length of DT.
 

Newbie2

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Ozric said:
No not remotely. It would set even more of a precedent and then people would fight over what figure is "reasonable" to them, how long does the server have to be down for people to start asking again, is the amount tied to the length of DT.
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If the servers go down so often that it starts to create a precedent\expectation then we have bigger problems than credits:)
 

EUS

EUS
Nice thought FD

I may or may not play during this time, but thanks for trying to add salve to the Friday night sting.
From an appreciative CMDR.
 
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