UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Blind Pew said:
Picking up on the theory that the Barnacles may be related to 'the lost', those groups of humans who headed out into unknown space in the distant past, I plotted a course from Sol to the Pleiades and then extended that beyond the Pleiades in a straight line. I was looking to see if that line hit any other nebula further away. It did. It hit NGC 1333 which sits below the California Nebula. Strangely there is also a very dense long strip of stars that appears to be exactly in line with the course I plotted. Add to that the fact that Barnard's loop viewed from NGC 1333 looks very much like the Barnacles logo as the horsehead nebula is no longer in the centre and appears to form the 'blob' we see at the bottom of the logo.

Has anyone already checked this location? If not I'll take a look and report back.
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I know I'm being obtuse, but how do you extend the line? I can't see any way to do that sort of "what-if" planning in the ED Galmap. I've tried also in Ed-map & can't see how to do it there either (also that app doesn't seem to show nebulae, just stars) - am I missing something? I can't find any relevant help/guidance or settings options
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jorki Rasalas said:
I know I'm being obtuse, but how do you extend the line? I can't see any way to do that sort of "what-if" planning in the ED Galmap. I've tried also in Ed-map & can't see how to do it there either (also that app doesn't seem to show nebulae, just stars) - am I missing something? I can't find any relevant help/guidance or settings options
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It's quite tricky. Using both GalMap and Ed-map at the same time works best, in my opinion.
 

unrealization

unrealization
I just wanted to drop by to report that I am currently on "vacation" traveling towards Mu Cephei. I have just arrived at the North America and Pelican Nebulae, and will be keeping my eyes open for signs of Barnacles or anything outside the ordinary.
After reaching Mu Cephei I will consider whether or not to visit the Bubble Nebula and the Heart and Soul Nebulae. On the way back I might pay another visit to NGC 7822.

Keep up the science!
 

subhouse07

subhouse07
SystematicChaos said:
I think that when MB said "I'm afraid not" it was in response to the first part of the question "can you be a bit more candid with your responses?" rather than anything about the Lagoon.
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I think that's probably right. I always thought it was strange he would just simply say no to such a specific question.

Blind Pew said:
Picking up on the theory that the Barnacles may be related to 'the lost', those groups of humans who headed out into unknown space in the distant past, I plotted a course from Sol to the Pleiades and then extended that beyond the Pleiades in a straight line. I was looking to see if that line hit any other nebula further away. It did. It hit NGC 1333 which sits below the California Nebula. Strangely there is also a very dense long strip of stars that appears to be exactly in line with the course I plotted. Add to that the fact that Barnard's loop viewed from NGC 1333 looks very much like the Barnacles logo as the horsehead nebula is no longer in the centre and appears to form the 'blob' we see at the bottom of the logo.

Has anyone already checked this location? If not I'll take a look and report back.
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Ngc 1333 was the first place I headed after the Merope barnacle was found. I didn't find anything there BUT that was before the supposed spawn fix and you know planets are big so something could still be out there. I like your line of reasoning so I say head out there! Might do the same myself if I get tired of patrolling Maia.
 

fyo

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Jorki Rasalas said:
I know I'm being obtuse, but how do you extend the line? I can't see any way to do that sort of "what-if" planning in the ED Galmap. I've tried also in Ed-map & can't see how to do it there either (also that app doesn't seem to show nebulae, just stars) - am I missing something? I can't find any relevant help/guidance or settings options
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What I do is line up my starting point (Sol) with my way point (Merope) and then just visually see if anything appears to be in the same direction. Sometimes "flying" the route in the galmap helps.

Other times I've found that plotting a route between the two initial points makes for a good marker. To see if a possible destination lines up, I'll then move the map to that point and rotate towards the two points. The plotted route usually makes it easy enough to see if everything lines up.
 

Gypsy12

Gypsy12
unrealization said:
I just wanted to drop by to report that I am currently on "vacation" traveling towards Mu Cephei. I have just arrived at the North America and Pelican Nebulae, and will be keeping my eyes open for signs of Barnacles or anything outside the ordinary.
After reaching Mu Cephei I will consider whether or not to visit the Bubble Nebula and the Heart and Soul Nebulae. On the way back I might pay another visit to NGC 7822.

Keep up the science!
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Should be at NGC 7822 sometime this evening.... Can help.
 

irongut

irongut
Jensen2015 said:
In short: We should go to the Lagoon Nebula and look for a UA bubble 140Ly around it, checking the alignment of the UAs. Another possibility would be Prai Hypoo aa-a h60. I'll head there tomorrow.
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I spent a week in the vicinity of the Lagoon nebula at the end of January. I didn't see a single SSS the whole time.

That doesn't mean there are no barnacles but I'm fairly certain it doesn't have a UA shell.
 
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Gypsy12

Gypsy12
Out in the NGC 7822 shell, looking for UA's at the moment. Heading into the nebula proper soon for some planetside action. Will be joined later by a buddy to have a look around.

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Jensen2015

J
irongut said:
That doesn't mean there are no barnacles but I'm fairly certain it doesn't have a UA shell.
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I'm afraid you're right. I checked nearly 40 systems from 180 to 30Ly from the center of the Lagoon Nebula and only found 2 ship wreckages. No point in searching for barnacles in there then for me - even if they're there, I think it's too hard to find them without any clues. I made a list of checked systems, so if someone is interested, I can post it here.

Kinda ruins my theory - I really thought the B-star-class meant something... maybe it still does...
 

Lazrien

Lazrien
This may already have been discussed waaay back in the threadnought, but... I was just thinking about the UAs and I have a simple question: Is Merope considered the center of the Pleiades nebula? If the answer is Yes, I perhaps we are barking up the wrong tree trying to find the significance of the Merope star. Perhaps its significance is not its physical properties but that it just happens to be at the geographic center. If we think of the shell as a POI, then all UAs are saying by pointing there is that the is the center of an area that is significant.
 

unrealization

unrealization
Gypsy12 said:
Should be at NGC 7822 sometime this evening.... Can help.
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Thanks for the offer, but for now NGC 7822 is an optional target for the way back home. If I go there it's gonna be in about 2 weeks or so.
But I hope you'll enjoy the place, it's awesome.

Edit: If you haven't been there previously, visit all the bright stars. It's worth it. ;-)
 
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Atlas91

Atlas91
Dommarraa said:
I don't see how his statement gives any evidence or even possibility that there are other sources.
If he had used the plural, or said 'have been' instead of 'can be', then the question would still be open.
Singular and 'can be' really does mean that there is only 1 source.

When there are a multiple interpretations, I agree we shouldn't fixate on one of them.
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Michael Brookes said:
I meant nebulae.

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Nebula was a typo. He's already corrected himself in response to Rizal and others saying barnacles can only be found in one other place.
 

irongut

irongut
Jensen2015 said:
I'm afraid you're right. I checked nearly 40 systems from 180 to 30Ly from the center of the Lagoon Nebula and only found 2 ship wreckages. No point in searching for barnacles in there then for me - even if they're there, I think it's too hard to find them without any clues. I made a list of checked systems, so if someone is interested, I can post it here.

Kinda ruins my theory - I really thought the B-star-class meant something... maybe it still does...
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I had the same plan - if there was a shell I'd have spent time scouring the planets, instead all I did was land on a few to get some materials and holiday snaps. ;)
 

rizal72

rizal72
Lazrien said:
This may already have been discussed waaay back in the threadnought, but... I was just thinking about the UAs and I have a simple question: Is Merope considered the center of the Pleiades nebula? If the answer is Yes, I perhaps we are barking up the wrong tree trying to find the significance of the Merope star. Perhaps its significance is not its physical properties but that it just happens to be at the geographic center. If we think of the shell as a POI, then all UAs are saying by pointing there is that the is the center of an area that is significant.
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Merope is not the center of the Nebula (it's on its edge), it's just the center of the UA shell, and where all the UA point, wherever you drop them in the Galaxy.
That's all we know. Everything else is speculation.
 
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LordZoltan

LordZoltan
Bang on Riz, as always.

The best candidate system for 'centre' of the nebula, I think, is Maia - even though it's not at the centroid of systems within the nebula, it's about the only one that sits a decent distance in from all the nebula's nearest edges.
 

Arkazius

Arkazius
Another Barnacle, very close by on the same planet:

Pleiades sector IH-V c2-16 C 4 at coord -3.1300, -162.2377
http://imgur.com/KmdejxX

Notes:
This is an M class star, High metal world (0.21G, 374K).
The system is 14.76 ly from Merope and is not in line with Pleiades sector JC-U b3-2 and Merope.

For other Barnacle hunters:
I was flying at full throttle, with boosts, 45deg down angle, altitude of approx 2km. Spotted the white central dome of the barnacle well before green sparklies.
 
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