UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

[NetSlayer]

would an expert in Barnacle hunting please give me some advice?

Here is a moon i've been exploring. From what I hear, most barnacles are found in "yellow, sandy patches"
Are these blue trenches to the right similar?

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http://i.imgur.com/Tpk6h9i.png

I've also heard that metal content and heat may have a factor. What do you think of this?

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http://i.imgur.com/F0FGoe1.png

System stars are: O,M,M,K,A,T
Moon is orbiting: Class V Jovian w/ Rocky/Metal


How does this compare to moons or planets that barnacles have been sighted on? Any thoughts?

edit2: damn fine job with the topic post, Rizal. Answered most of my questions hehe... back to lurking

While the metal content doesn't seem too bad... the heat is certainly an outlier.

Then again, you may find barnacles outside the current ranges of temperature and metal content, I don't think radius is an issue.

The trenches are certainly the right kind.

Don't worry too much about the colour of the sand, the light from the nearby star may be having an affect on it's colour...

You can see the current ranges in the Pleiades System Data spreadsheet in the 'Compare Barnacle Locations' Tab
(Renamed recently for ease)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...GQhC5KT-o9u05ihWKXebt4BcM/edit#gid=1511998258

 

[Jorge]

You'd need to be at the correct angle to do this - so to get the shadow, and know the actual distance, the star would need to be directly over the barnacle. I'm don't think that's something we'd be able to guarantee. Or is my thinking flawed? Something about it doesn't feel possible anyway.

I'm not sure what you mean about knowing the actual distance. Wouldn't you just need to position your ship between the star and the barnacle? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the original question...

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I'm not sure what you mean about knowing the actual distance. Wouldn't you just need to position your ship between the star and the barnacle? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the original question...

You have no measure of knowing how far you are from the barnacle - only how far you are from the ground. If you aren't directly above it, you are looking at trying to use trigonometry with some of the necessary distances missing.

 

[RollinStoner]

Could you not get a rough estimate by targeting one of the barnacle spines closest to the central node and keeping targeted while you drive away a distance?

 

[CMDR Argent Steel]

You'd need to be at the correct angle to do this - so to get the shadow, and know the actual distance, the star would need to be directly over the barnacle. I'm don't think that's something we'd be able to guarantee. Or is my thinking flawed? Something about it doesn't feel possible anyway.

I think to conduct this experiment you'd need a partner. You'd need one to position their ship to where the shadow casts over the barnacle to block out light, and a second to observe directly overhead and look for green light. Also the shadow caster will probably need to be flying a large sized ship and be low to the ground so their shadow covers the largest area reasonably possible.

Somehow it doesn't really seem like a productive experiment but hey, we haven't really made significant progress regarding the barnacles in weeks so why not?

 

[AlexVII]

Could you not get a rough estimate by targeting one of the barnacle spines closest to the central node and keeping targeted while you drive away a distance?

No, they disappear from the radar.
Materials, however, remain.

 

[Lokesh]

You have no measure of knowing how far you are from the barnacle - only how far you are from the ground. If you aren't directly above it, you are looking at trying to use trigonometry with some of the necessary distances missing.

Or just fly upside down and look out the cockpit? I think this could be done without a lot of trouble.

 

[DialBforBiscuit]

Or just fly upside down and look out the cockpit? I think this could be done without a lot of trouble.

How are you suppose to drink tea like that though? You can't science without tea.

 

[Dommarraa]

How are you suppose to drink tea like that though? You can't science without tea.

If your Tea cannot deal with 0.06g, you need to make it stronger

 

[Jorge]

Or just fly upside down and look out the cockpit? I think this could be done without a lot of trouble.

This is the kind of thing I meant. Just maneouver until you project your shadow on the barnacle, then get closer, angled so that you can see it.

How are you suppose to drink tea like that though? You can't science without tea.

Low-G is your friend!

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

This is the kind of thing I meant. Just maneouver until you project your shadow on the barnacle, then get closer, angled so that you can see it

My point is that your instruments only tell you how far you are from the ground, and not from the barnacle. I know that I was able to see the glow up to about 10km because that's how far my instruments said I was from the ground when I was flying straight up from it.

The thing is, it doesn't actually seem that important except as a way of possibly spotting them from further away, and so far, I've only noticed it when I knew exactly where they were to begin with. As for if they can be seen further away whilst in your shadow doesn't actually seem to helpful even if it is the case.

The other thing is, if the suggestion is that the lighting difference is a behavior of the barnacles, I don't know how we would be able to say it wasn't just down to the lighting mechanics of the game itself.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I think to conduct this experiment you'd need a partner. You'd need one to position their ship to where the shadow casts over the barnacle to block out light, and a second to observe directly overhead and look for green light. Also the shadow caster will probably need to be flying a large sized ship and be low to the ground so their shadow covers the largest area reasonably possible.

Somehow it doesn't really seem like a productive experiment but hey, we haven't really made significant progress regarding the barnacles in weeks so why not?

Yeah, this is what I'm actually getting at.

 

[CMDR Argent Steel]

Yeah, this is what I'm actually getting at.

I'd still be up for trying it but I would be surprised if it yields anything interesting.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I'd still be up for trying it but I would be surprised if it yields anything interesting.

Good to know, but I'm not currently in game. Just reading the forum on my phone during a bout of insomnia.

 

[crushdepth]

My point is that your instruments only tell you how far you are from the ground, and not from the barnacle. I know that I was able to see the glow up to about 10km because that's how far my instruments said I was from the ground when I was flying straight up from it.

The thing is, it doesn't actually seem that important except as a way of possibly spotting them from further away, and so far, I've only noticed it when I knew exactly where they were to begin with. As for if they can be seen further away whilst in your shadow doesn't actually seem to helpful even if it is the case.

The other thing is, if the suggestion is that the lighting difference is a behavior of the barnacles, I don't know how we would be able to say it wasn't just down to the lighting mechanics of the game itself.

I'm doing a tour of barnicles at the moment to try and get a handle on spotting them and their habitat requirements. I really have no idea how people found the night side ones. Especially on tidally locked moons. If I hadn't known exactly where it was I would never have spotted it. Even in well-lit conditions, I would probably overlook a barnacle at any more than 800 metres altitude.

I wish they would appear on instruments, having to spot things by eye on planet-sized surfaces in the 34th century is pretty frustrating.

 

[Derthek]

Strange discovery in NGC 6357 - The Varetian Leap

I've found 2 separate systems that exist a meager 50.8 Light-Seconds away from each other! (after further inspection this statement is false! They exist in the same place! less than 1 light second away from each other, depending which of the two systems you're in!)

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There are planets in both systems that are further from the main star than the neighboring system... What sort of Dr. Who shenanigans have I stumbled into? I intend to search around for evidence of inter-dimensional rifts... One of the systems even has a black hole!

Here's a shot from the GalMap. It seems that both of these systems exist in the same space. Plotting a route between the two is only possible by selecting the other from the Nav Panel on my left.

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UPDATE:
Even stranger still! When I'm in CL Pismis 19, the Nav Panel says the two systems are nearly 100,000 Light seconds apart! The distance between the two systems varries depending on which system you're sitting in. I'm unable to jump from 13 to 19, but I can in fact jump from 19 to 13. Here is an image taken from beside the main star in CL Pismis 19.

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Paging MB!
Is this a bug or perhaps a glitch in the stellar forge? The CL Pismis stars are real and not procedurally named/generated.
Any thoughts?


Update 2: I've somehow managed to make the jump through the star, and into the other system. I had to back away several light seconds from the main star... I've found a small airless planet to spend the night on... I'd like to name the jump between the two systems "The Varetian Leap" as it is one of the most unique jumps between 2 systems in the game. Literally into the star itself.

Update 3:
Bug report came back - devs won't say whether it's a bug or not!

 

[Kaltern]

That is a rather magneficient glitch! Or the Thargie's hideout

 

[Caldeon]

I've found a 2 separate systems that exist a meager 50.8 Light-Seconds away from each other! (after further inspection this statement is false! They exist in the same place! less than 1 light second away from each other, depending which of the two systems you're in!)
...

I am pretty sure that NGC6357 is highlighted on the galmap for some reason. It is the only Nebula that is highlighted, and the only place outside the bubble, that is highlighted. Only 3 further places are higlighted: Sol (home of mankind and feds), Achenar (home of empire) and Polaris (alien encounter in earlier elite games). There must be something. On the DW Exploration i decided to look deeper into that region, spend some days there landed on several planets. Found nothing though, but i didnt have much time and this area is huge for one person Later i decided to cath up to the DW fleet so couldnt investigate further.

 

[Derthek]

I am pretty sure that NGC6357 is highlighted on the galmap for some reason. It is the only Nebula that is highlighted, and the only place outside the bubble, that is highlighted. Only 3 further places are higlighted: Sol (home of mankind and feds), Achenar (home of empire) and Polaris (alien encounter in earlier elite games). There must be something. On the DW Exploration i decided to look deeper into that region, spend some days there landed on several planets. Found nothing though, but i didnt have much time and this area is huge for one person Later i decided to cath up to the DW fleet so couldnt investigate further.

Finally! Some one who shares my suspicions about NGC 6357!

 

[Omategomatete]

Finally! Some one who shares my suspicions about NGC 6357!

Any permit locked systems in NGC 6357?