"I Want It All" Queen of Sag A* in Open - take care
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Regarding the claims that you can't bring real life into it; why should we respect that? The logic of such killers is always as follows;
* They want to take any advantage they can, to win at all costs. They aren't interested in being fair.
* They want to ensure you suffer real life anguish, in order to further their feelings of being superior to you, having power over you or just plain noticed
* As a consequence of the above two, they want to ensure you have no ability to strike them back, ie to influence them or claim superiority in real life, whilst demanding you acknowledge theirs. Hypocrisy is very much part of the plans.
So, by their own logic of taking any advantage at all, and not caring or outright trying to limit your ability to fight back... why should you play that game? Why should you ignore the evidence of exactly what they're doing because they demand you don't draw the obvious conclusions, indeed demand you ignore the very point of what they're doing? Why should you make yourself into a victim just because someone else wants to hurt you and feel superior when it's quite obvious they have to dedicate a huge amount of time in their life to being atrocious to you? Why can't you just act exactly like them and inflict a real sense of pain and loss in real life, just like they want you to feel when all your efforts to get to Sag A are ruined?
So yeah; I think we can declare someone who does is this is clearly very, very sad in real life, suffers incredible feelings of inadequacy they can only take out on others online by dedicating hundreds of their empty, useless hours to finding any way to hurt people, and if they don't like those comments... hey, we're just roleplaying those feelings, roleplaying being a destard. You can't criticize any of what we do! Just like you claim! You sad, sad person. Roleplay again, remember!
Of course, the practical result of this, just like any MMO game which allows people to act like gits and influence people's sense of progression (where that sense is the core mechanic of an MMO) is that their lack of self control, inability to show any kind of social understanding just strangles to death their own playstyle, as everyone ends up walking away from it. And oh look, Elite Open PvP is already largely dead. So all this little ego trip will achieve is make even people move to private groups... and thus proving the point of all the anti-PKs, who will end up feeling superior to you in real life because they were right about you all along. It's not like the MMO industry doesn't have 20 years of data to back this up by now too (all the way back to people claiming to be roleplaying gits in Ultima Online in the late 1990s), which is why Elite had Private and Solo play in the first place. But oooh, you got a single thread complaining about you going, a thread that will end in you getting smashed by someone who actually knows how to fight, when they bother getting over there too. So, so special! Oooh you are! Only roleplaying as a rude person, by the way.
You sad, lifeless fool.
Roleplay again!
* They want to take any advantage they can, to win at all costs. They aren't interested in being fair.
* They want to ensure you suffer real life anguish, in order to further their feelings of being superior to you, having power over you or just plain noticed
* As a consequence of the above two, they want to ensure you have no ability to strike them back, ie to influence them or claim superiority in real life, whilst demanding you acknowledge theirs. Hypocrisy is very much part of the plans.
So, by their own logic of taking any advantage at all, and not caring or outright trying to limit your ability to fight back... why should you play that game? Why should you ignore the evidence of exactly what they're doing because they demand you don't draw the obvious conclusions, indeed demand you ignore the very point of what they're doing? Why should you make yourself into a victim just because someone else wants to hurt you and feel superior when it's quite obvious they have to dedicate a huge amount of time in their life to being atrocious to you? Why can't you just act exactly like them and inflict a real sense of pain and loss in real life, just like they want you to feel when all your efforts to get to Sag A are ruined?
So yeah; I think we can declare someone who does is this is clearly very, very sad in real life, suffers incredible feelings of inadequacy they can only take out on others online by dedicating hundreds of their empty, useless hours to finding any way to hurt people, and if they don't like those comments... hey, we're just roleplaying those feelings, roleplaying being a destard. You can't criticize any of what we do! Just like you claim! You sad, sad person. Roleplay again, remember!
Of course, the practical result of this, just like any MMO game which allows people to act like gits and influence people's sense of progression (where that sense is the core mechanic of an MMO) is that their lack of self control, inability to show any kind of social understanding just strangles to death their own playstyle, as everyone ends up walking away from it. And oh look, Elite Open PvP is already largely dead. So all this little ego trip will achieve is make even people move to private groups... and thus proving the point of all the anti-PKs, who will end up feeling superior to you in real life because they were right about you all along. It's not like the MMO industry doesn't have 20 years of data to back this up by now too (all the way back to people claiming to be roleplaying gits in Ultima Online in the late 1990s), which is why Elite had Private and Solo play in the first place. But oooh, you got a single thread complaining about you going, a thread that will end in you getting smashed by someone who actually knows how to fight, when they bother getting over there too. So, so special! Oooh you are! Only roleplaying as a rude person, by the way.
You sad, lifeless fool.
Roleplay again!
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A domina sitting in front of her monitor and doing nothing for hours every day - let her enjoy it. 
The thing that has always annoyed me about the "oh, I'm roleplaying a git" types is that they don't take account of the general state of things, only of their own advancement - which leads to a poorer experience for all concerned except from them.
Even if the game is set up in advance to be one of dog-eat-dog competition - which in some ways Elite is - Crufts is more interesting than a snarling pitbull surrounded by a pile of corpses...
...but you can't tell 'em that. They've got their paper-thin 'roleplay' license to kill and you ain't taking it off them.
She contacted me in game while I was resting on a more distant planet. I think she likes me.
She contacted me in game while I was resting on a more distant planet. I think she likes me.
So the wedding is on?
Best bet is to ignore this individual. It's what FD are going to do anyway.
This is my own interpretation of griefing. It's an individual opinion.
I'm guessing this is with reference to 'griefer' a sub set of players in any online game who go about with the purposeful intent of deliberately spoiling the gaming experience for other players.
E.g. Waiting at SagA* to kill players, however other examples of this behaviour exist. A griefer 'fleet' has apparently been slowly tracking the DW fleet since January.
No penalty for this behaviour exists in this game as far as I am aware. It is penalised in other online gaming environments, often with a ban or account freezing.
In ED it usually occurs in open however pve groups like Möbius have been infiltrated by organised griefer groups. It is thinly veiled as 'role playing' behaviour in ED.
I'm guessing the modus operandi of these sad, lonely, immature dysfunctional losers would be:
11-20yr old players wanting to 'prove' themselves in an online environment. They have few friends, are probably not in any meaningful physical relationship and are/were probably bullied at school, they are deeply insecure in real life with little to no chance of actually 'proving themselves' outside of this gaming environment.
Solution: get some fresh air/girlfriend-boyfriend/life combo and grow up.
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I'd rep you more, Ziggy, but I seem to be out at the moment.
Besides that, I give two pieces of advice, both of which tend to be things forgotten.
First... "Nice" and "Good" are two very different things. I have no doubts that this CMDR is quite nice in her dealings. It's generally proper to be nice and pleasant in dealings with others. However, "nice" goes away once someone arms their weapons. At that point, it becomes a matter of "good" versus "evil". And if she's armed her weapons even once in her greed (and make no mistake, it is greed), she's not acting on the side of the angels.
Second... a "fair fight" is a failure of strategy. Please keep that in mind with whatever plans you have for this event.
Hmmm. I seem to be neither "nice" nor "good". How interesting.
I went ahead and did so on your behalf
Apparently I've been granted free passage into the system without a "permit." It seems the PR fallout would have been immense if this didn't happen.
Having slept on the gesture, I feel that this doesn't really matter: you prohibit one of us, you prohibit all of us.
It is flattering to know, though, that this "queen" bows to nobody... except me.
Having slept on the gesture, I feel that this doesn't really matter: you prohibit one of us, you prohibit all of us.
It is flattering to know, though, that this "queen" bows to nobody... except me.
Hmmm - having to track ~1,000 ships across 65,000 ly, dragging a PvP combat build, without ever getting to actually see one of them[1], while being unable to join in the actual fun[2], is no in-game penalty?
[1]Assuming so, because of Kamzel/Erimus/Mobius.
[2]Landings, meet-ups, group chatter - and because I imagine the kind of mind that gets off on mindlessly killing other players can't grasp the concept of exploration.
Apparently I've been granted free passage into the system without a "permit." It seems the PR fallout would have been immense if this didn't happen.
Having slept on the gesture, I feel that this doesn't really matter: you prohibit one of us, you prohibit all of us.
It is flattering to know, though, that this "queen" bows to nobody... except me.
I formally request a permit for entering and exploring the Sagitartius A* system from the first human explorer to "claim" the system. Permit should include rights to all materials found in said system and the legal ability to graffiti "Useless Reptile" on any planetary surface I see fit.
You know what's the thing about all this.
She could have had class, she could have been a contender. All she had to do is change the narrative.
Hi! I'm CMDR Amidala,
Because I love explorers so much, I bought the company. Wait ... that's spatulas. Let me try again ...
There are these many beautiful sites in the Galaxy, and the explorers give those in the bubble a peek at the many wonders of this galaxy. Explorers who venture out in the dark for little pay, devoting a great deal of time and effort to documenting and reporting about them. Therefore I, Queen Amadila, declare Sagittarius A* a safe haven for these intrepid explorers. No bobblehead with guns who bumbles into Sagittarius A* shall bother them, for I, Queen Amadila, will protect them.
Bam. Instant devotion of many CMDRs. Hat's off all around.
Instead we got lies and cake.
edit: If the Queen reads this, I'm available as PR officer for the small fee of stating: Ziggy Stardust is the most handsome CMDR this side of the Andromeda Galaxy.
She could have had class, she could have been a contender. All she had to do is change the narrative.
Hi! I'm CMDR Amidala,
Because I love explorers so much, I bought the company. Wait ... that's spatulas. Let me try again ...
There are these many beautiful sites in the Galaxy, and the explorers give those in the bubble a peek at the many wonders of this galaxy. Explorers who venture out in the dark for little pay, devoting a great deal of time and effort to documenting and reporting about them. Therefore I, Queen Amadila, declare Sagittarius A* a safe haven for these intrepid explorers. No bobblehead with guns who bumbles into Sagittarius A* shall bother them, for I, Queen Amadila, will protect them.
Bam. Instant devotion of many CMDRs. Hat's off all around.
Instead we got lies and cake.
edit: If the Queen reads this, I'm available as PR officer for the small fee of stating: Ziggy Stardust is the most handsome CMDR this side of the Andromeda Galaxy.
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While contrary to the "explorers code" and picking on defenceless explorers is kinda lame. There is nothing against the rules to what this player is doing. It seems like she is role playing nicely albeit a role most people don't like.
This is the in game equivalent of the Conquistador's landing in south America and proclaiming this is my land, worship my god or else. A proper response is to either sent out a fleet after her or starve her out until she gets bored. Sooner or later one or the other will happen
Sag A* will always be there long after queens, emperors and explorers have gone.
This is the in game equivalent of the Conquistador's landing in south America and proclaiming this is my land, worship my god or else. A proper response is to either sent out a fleet after her or starve her out until she gets bored. Sooner or later one or the other will happen
Sag A* will always be there long after queens, emperors and explorers have gone.
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Well my husband TheKerbinator is not happy. He dragged a PvP combat build all the way off to BP looking for some griefers. He waited a couple of weeks at Saggy A greeting people, went back to the DW fleet when he heard reports of griefers there and then back to Saggy A before catching up. And now he hears that he missed the queen by a few weeks. He's resorted to forlornly blowing up outcrops in low G worlds with his plasma accelerator.
I have to admit, if I was still in the bubble with my Anaconda I would have been tempted to take a combat build out there and remove the problem and it's not often I get that mercenary.
I'm detecting a fair amount of hate there. I'd recommend having a conversation with the people who your are pouring vitriol on before arbitrarily labeling them.
You might be surprised.