Yes for you, for me not. So what about all the others? ^^
(info) First bonus for playing in OPEN under consideration for PP
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Just to be a stickler, we weren't promised "equal incentive" to play in all three modes. So while I agree there is not equal incentive for a player to play in all three modes for all mechanics, It's not, IMO, a big issue because it's not something that was ever promised.
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Smokescreen. Just play in solo if you see it as an advantage. There is nothing stopping you but your choice. That brings us squarely in the face of: "Why does your choice have more relevance than mine?". Why does simply playing in open become the benchmark, the measuring reference for compensation?
Maybe it's because Sandro was affected by the smoke. Hopefully having all of the arguments laid out in front of him, his current impression can be repaired.
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"Because I said so" is what I say to my kids.
That doesn't fly with my clients.
Huh? So whatever wasnt promised cannot be a big deal?
Then think about this, I'm not using this for any shock factor nor do I intend to be racist nor imply anyone here to be racist. I have no intention of making light nor joke of the scenario. Therefore I wish everyone examine the following scenario with a solemn mind:
You live in the segregation era, nowhere close to 1964, you have a choice to be any race you wish and have any pigment of skin, but you are of the oppressed and discriminated.
Sure, you live under a constitution that states that all [people] are created equal and there's a 14th amendment that guarantee you equal protection under the law. The government continue to tell everyone that everyone's equal, but just separate.
If you give this choice to everyone during that era, want to take a guess how quickly white/anglo saxon population will spike through the roof and agricultural production will fail in certain region of the country? Status of the country aside, how do you feel personally about the situation?
Now look back at the topic of discussion.
You play in the current PP setting, you have a choice to choose whatever mode you play in.
Sure, the developers tell you all modes are equal.
You know you want to play Open Mode for player interaction, but you also know that the competitive reality is that private and solo modes are the way to go.
So, do you betray what you are as a person having certain preference of gameplay and enter private/solo? Do you think there is some sort of equality there?
Do you not feel the slightest dissatisfaction and disappointment?
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Then give me a rational argument against it, I haven't seen any.
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Because proportionate equality under the competitive scope is the benchmark. Otherwise you're using solo/private as the benchmark, can you be anymore blind? Open isn't a benchmark for anything.
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Yea, it doesn't with anyone, that's why there's rational argument for the reason of this consideration of change by Sandro.
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If (When?) they implement the bonus we'll see what motivated it.
If it's substantial, it'll be a carrot to lure people out in Open.
If it's minor, it'll be a compensation for the minor extra risk in Open.
If it's substantial, it'll be a carrot to lure people out in Open.
If it's minor, it'll be a compensation for the minor extra risk in Open.
But you could use the easily available Solo mode just as logically as with open. Why does open become the measure? Why don't players have to make their choices and accept the consequences, when it's open we're talking about? If you find Solo so beneficial to PP, why don;t you just use that advantage, and leave everyone else to themselves?
As long as we don't see an overwhelming and consistent spike, along with rational arguments about people feeling being at a disadvantage in private/solo, the implementation was probably a success.
Then FD can just adjust it accordingly afterward as the data reflects.
A rational argument doesn't imply the best argument.
At this point you're not reading.
"Because proportionate equality under the competitive scope is the benchmark. Otherwise you're using solo/private as the benchmark."
Because it's a formal competition.
The game outside of PP is not competitive, at least not explicitly competitive. If FD really cares about every mode, then every mode should be of relative equal incentive to participate PP in.
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So we are throwing rationality out of the window?
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Seriously?
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Wait, let me have a laugh at this. What argument is the best argument then?
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Hyperbole? I just pointed out that rationality isn't the best measure for any argument. But, you knew that. The best argument is the one that convinces the most people, when we are talking about matters of opinion anyway.
Why should a players choice not to take advantage of something, mean that others have to pay for that choice? You could have all of the advantages you cam imagine in Solo, all you have to do is click on it. Why is that not an acceptable answer to this?
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That's easy. The one I agree with.
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Actually, this is something they can see clearly. Player A plays in Open all the time. Player B plays in Open all the time EXCEPT when he's doing PP activities. Player C only play in Solo. Player D only plays in Open except for CGs. These are actually things they can track, so they can see that people who normally play in Open are switching to Solo for the express purpose of doing PP activities, which clearly shows an imbalance is in play, otherwise, the player who always stays in Open except for PP would always stay in Open.
They can see when you switch modes and what you are doing in each mode, so that takes guesswork out of it.
Only if you take no issues with sophistry.
It does. That's exactly what makes all of the modes equal just as they are. Play where you want, you can change your mind at anytime. Re-balancing towards open only show favoritism, and concern over the population, not parity.
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