Low life support sounds are too realistic for ages 7+

The age rating for the game is 7+. I think that when you run out of oxygen, and are about to die, those sounds of the commander suffocating are way too much for a child if that age

Even I got the creeps after running out of fuel and dying. The poor guy's gasping for air and it's REALLY scary. And yes, I'm 14 - twice the age of a 7 year old. Call me a wuss, but even I got shaken after hearing my commander suffocate.

Either: disable the "gasping for air" sound upon installing the game for the first time, and having it under Audio options to switch it on

Or: dumb it down a little. The poor kids will be scared much more than me. Heck, i nearly took of my headphones it was that frightening.

Side note: Why does the ship explode upon commander death? I know suicide is better than slowly dying, but why can't it go blurry then see the commander struggle towards a red lever on the control panel and yank it down, with the ship saying "Reactor overload activated. Goodbye, commander." Then fading out.

Just please consider the suffocation sounds.
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Okaaay there's a lot of mixed feelings on this thread, and 8 pages long for this topic is getting ridiculous. Remember that I only suggested that an option was added which was toggleable.
As (someone's post I can't find) said, why are the sounds even there if the pilot is supposed to 'eject'? If you hear him dying in his ship, he dies. No ejecting. Why would your commander run dry on oxygen, then eject - it's not 'immersive' as you guys put it. Since this is an adults game, some people who have played might have experienced some kind of trauma from past experiences, and the sounds could distress them as well.

Some people are saying to make the age rating higher and add more stuff suitable to that age, going as far as 16+. I'm fine with that, because I can deal with playing 18 rated games, and it means parents will probably not decide to get the game for their kids because they're too young.
 
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A Child that Age should not play unsupervised anyway. Also, what do u want? Singing a Song while dying?

Also, i doubt many 7 year olds play E-D.
 
Rating isn't given by Frontier. Its given by Pegi, so send them email if you think their ratings aren't correct. Also elite has violence market next to that 7+. To be honest things you mention aren't bad and i have seen much worse stuff on 7+ and even on 3+ games, like shooting people, driving over people etc.
 
Oddly PEGI 7 is described as "Any game that would normally be rated at 3 but contains some possibly frightening scenes or sounds may be considered suitable in this category"
The Out of life support could be classed as the frightening sounds in the definition above
PEGI 3 allows for violent against none human entities such as space ships, i.e. no association or recognisable as humans

High ratings usually require violent against recognisable humans or animals, sexual content, or anti-social behaviours such as drug use, criminality etc

Still not an unreasonable request
 
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But slavery and murder a-ok. :D

Just be happy they haven't enabeled the screams of people forced into slavery. Echoing through a T9 ''HELP HELP'' ''YOU MONSTER''

Thats third person, and as such doesent feel "real". same reason why airforce and navvy are considered "clean" combat vs. Infantry "wetwork"...
you dont SEE your opponent or slave die: makes it "unreal" and "just a number".
 
you know that the forum is populated by old geezers like myself.

I'm not sure if this is the kind of "issues" they would prioritise.

If you are to scared of this you have 2 options.

-Low the game sound effects.

-get a better life support :D


I assure you that most A rated life supports can keep you alive for as long as 25 minutes.

Plenty of time to get yourslef to a station and patch your ship up, in order to avoid hearing your commander gasping for air.

( gotta admit that it is INDEED creepy, first time it happened to me I made a self note, to get a better life support for every new ship purchased ) [woah]
 

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AFAIK the Audio you hear when on Life Support is completely normal breating.
Otherwise one would be "suffocating" over 25 Minutes straight when on A-Grade Life Support :D

The CMDR isn't suffocating when on Life Support (preventing exactly that is its job after all), it's simply the Audio Simulation of the remlock suit closing and isolating the CMDR from the typical Ship Audio feedback System.
It sounds different, but that's it. It's not a "distress Audio" of a suffering person. This condition doesn't exist throughout the Game - otherwise the age rating wouldn't be what it is today.
 
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All depends on your point of view I think. For example, you say "... suicide is better than slowly dying..." Other views are available, see the Interwebz(tm) for details. Plenty of children have played the game, as reported in many posts on the forum but AFAIK no-one has reported a sudden increase in e.g. bedwetting, midnight terrors, refusing to play the 'scary' game. Given what's already available to 7 year olds in mainstream media I very much doubt their innocent little souls are quite so tender as you imagine.

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But slavery and murder a-ok. :D

Just be happy they haven't enabeled the screams of people forced into slavery. Echoing through a T9 ''HELP HELP'' ''YOU MONSTER''

Maybe they should add that. Make the slavers feel a bit bad about what they are doing.

Well that made me lol, not a bad idea at all. +1 rep to you sir! o7
 
The age rating for the game is 7+. I think that when you run out of oxygen, and are about to die, those sounds of the commander suffocating are way too much for a child if that age

Even I got the creeps after running out of fuel and dying. The poor guy's gasping for air and it's REALLY scary. And yes, I'm 14 - twice the age of a 7 year old. Call me a wuss, but even I got shaken after hearing my commander suffocate.

Either: disable the "gasping for air" sound upon installing the game for the first time, and having it under Audio options to switch it on

Or: dumb it down a little. The poor kids will be scared much more than me. Heck, i nearly took of my headphones it was that frightening.

Side note: Why does the ship explode upon commander death? I know suicide is better than slowly dying, but why can't it go blurry then see the commander struggle towards a red lever on the control panel and yank it down, with the ship saying "Reactor overload activated. Goodbye, commander." Then fading out.

Just please consider the suffocation sounds.

Game is not for you. This game is quite brutal(slave trading, pirates, terrors of open market economy, smuggling weapons and murder without consequences), yet you balk only at explicit sounds of dying. Looks like your imagination and abstract thought are not catching up.
Either realize the real horror of this game or be silent. Your current stance is that of a hypocrite.
 
But slavery and murder a-ok. :D

Just be happy they haven't enabeled the screams of people forced into slavery. Echoing through a T9 ''HELP HELP'' ''YOU MONSTER''

Maybe they should add that. Make the slavers feel a bit bad about what they are doing.

I'd do more trading if the slaves were screaming for help.
Would be interesting to see what happened when you pop a load of shield cells and shoot up to 900% heat too.
 
AFAIK the Audio you hear when on Life Support is completely normal breating.
Otherwise one would be "suffocating" over 25 Minutes straight when on A-Grade Life Support :D

The CMDR isn't suffocating when on Life Support (preventing exactly that is its job after all), it's simply the Audio Simulation of the remlock suit closing and isolating the CMDR from the typical Ship Audio feedback System.
It sounds different, but that's it. It's not a "distress Audio" of a suffering person. This condition doesn't exist throughout the Game - otherwise the age rating wouldn't be what it is today.

Doesn't the breathing become increasingly more laboured in the last minutes or 30 seconds?
 
I normally dont like this kind of complaints but the OP's got a point. Seven years is really way to young to hear a person seemingly slowly suffer a horrible death in a rather realistic way. I am surprised to hear myself say it but a 'parental lock' where this and other subjects rather inapropriate for 7-year olds (such as slavery being the most profitable profession) gets locked client-side might not be a bad idea. As for the exploding ship: just before you suffocate you enter the escape pod with emergency oxygen and the ship self-destructs. You don't actually die in Elite, you just get really close sometimes. :D

BTW: when I think about how inconsiderate many people (including myself!) are in some of the hotly-debated topics around here I must say I am pretty impressed with a 14-year old being concerned about younger kids. [up]
 
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All depends on your point of view I think. For example, you say "... suicide is better than slowly dying..." Other views are available, see the Interwebz(tm) for details. Plenty of children have played the game, as reported in many posts on the forum but AFAIK no-one has reported a sudden increase in e.g. bedwetting, midnight terrors, refusing to play the 'scary' game. Given what's already available to 7 year olds in mainstream media I very much doubt their innocent little souls are quite so tender as you imagine.


Game is not for you. This game is quite brutal(slave trading, pirates, terrors of open market economy, smuggling weapons and murder without consequences), yet you balk only at explicit sounds of dying. Looks like your imagination and abstract thought are not catching up.
Either realize the real horror of this game or be silent. Your current stance is that of a hypocrite.



You both realize that you talk to a 14 year old?
 
AFAIK the Audio you hear when on Life Support is completely normal breating.
Otherwise one would be "suffocating" over 25 Minutes straight when on A-Grade Life Support :D

The CMDR isn't suffocating when on Life Support (preventing exactly that is its job after all), it's simply the Audio Simulation of the remlock suit closing and isolating the CMDR from the typical Ship Audio feedback System.
It sounds different, but that's it. It's not a "distress Audio" of a suffering person. This condition doesn't exist throughout the Game - otherwise the age rating wouldn't be what it is today.

Turn off you life-support and wait till the last few seconds to turn it on. Its amazing sound design but yeah, you hear him suffer.
 
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