Powerplay Time to get rid of a power? Who should be targetted?

Who should be wiped out?

  • Aisling Duval

    Votes: 25 15.7%
  • Edmund Mahon

    Votes: 13 8.2%
  • Arissa Lavigny-Duval

    Votes: 11 6.9%
  • Felicia Winters

    Votes: 15 9.4%
  • Denton Patreus

    Votes: 26 16.4%
  • Zachary Hudson

    Votes: 24 15.1%
  • Li Yong-Rui

    Votes: 7 4.4%
  • Zemina Torval

    Votes: 44 27.7%
  • Pranav Antal

    Votes: 21 13.2%
  • Archon Delaine

    Votes: 32 20.1%
  • Terrible idea/no way, not my faction!!!/other (specify)

    Votes: 14 8.8%

  • Total voters
    159
Ok, I think i've made my opinion on Powerplay clear a number of times, and my reasons for not participating.

But i have one particular bugbear that keeps annoying me. Its how static the whole thing is. It won't be long since PP has been around for a year, and in that time, not one power has failed. Initially it was stated that should a power stay in bottom place for several weeks it would be wiped out, but that never came to pass, despite i think a couple of powers qualifying.

So, perhaps its time to push the issue, and make it happen. If there is enough support for this action, i'd even be willing to join PP to help make it happen.

Yes, i know, it would mean one group would lose their power, but who knows, maybe any replacement power would be more interesting!

What it would require is as many PP players as possible, setting aside existing battles, and focusing on taking over the chosen faction's territories, or just undermining where possible, while of course, keeping their own systems secure from those who are not interested in this. A kind of alliance of PP players. For powers that do not border the chosen power, just help as you can. For powers that do border, expand into worthwhile systems. I'd also encourage those who belong to the chosen power to defect and weaken the power by not providing their support.

This is perhaps getting ahead of myself, since it may turn out that people don't like this idea at all, but just putting down some ideas for the moment.

So... who should it be?

Not to try and influence voting (hehe), here are some thoughts of mine.

Not Delaine: While perhaps one of the weaker powers, he is the only clear bad guy. I think he is worth keeping around.
Not Li Yong: People love his discounts.

Who might be a good target?

Aisling: She has lots of supporters, and being one of the "good" empire people, its understandable taking her down would be unpopular to many. But there again, she has plenty of haters as well.... ugh, that blue hair! I think it might get some support.
Patreus: Yeah, come on, how many actually like him?
Hudson: Two Fed powers, the loss of this jerk would be no real biggie :D Of course, those who support him only for his bonus won't like it at all. Perhaps even more reason to target them! :D
Antal: Sorry Utopians, i know you guys love your power, and from what i've seen, one of the groups that are more focused on the RP aspect than others, but you are relatively weak, ripe for the plucking.

Anyway, vote away, and extra option included for those who think this is a bad idea or object for some other reason.

EDIT: Multiple choice poll. Allowing up to 3 choices.

[video=youtube_share;S1gC0Ff-VBk]https://youtu.be/S1gC0Ff-VBk?t=9104[/video]
 
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Somehow I like Winters and Antal the least :D No special reason.

Edit: On second thought it should be one of the imperial powers, since we have currently 2 Feds, 1 Alliance, 3 Independent and 4 Imps. And since the Empire is nowhere near a supremacy, it may be useful to shift the focus a bit onto the independents or the feds (or the Alliance, God save us, those Thargoidlovers!!!)
 
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I vote to leave them all in. But I fear change, so it doesn't count. ;)

(I didn't see an option for my vote, so I'll abstain.)
 
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Hudson.

Winters will be the only Fed power then and drive the whole Fed thing into a wall by appeasing the Imps, Mr. Hedgefond and this ugly pirate guy.
 
Do we really need more than one Empire or Federation power if there's no competition for "power"?

The Emperor is there, no way that the various Patreus, Aisling, or even Torval may be able to overthrow her.

Same for the Federation, the president will be in charge until the next election. Except for FDev surprises, which are however out of the control of Powerplay players.

So, what's the point in more than one power for major faction, apart from fancy colours on the map?
 
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Do we really need more than one Empire or Federation power if there's no competition for "power"?

The Emperor is there, no way that the various Patreus, Aisling, or even Torval may be able to overthrow her.

Same for the Federation, the president will be in charge until the next election. Except for FDev surprises, which are however out of the control of Powerplay players.

So, what's the point in more than one power for major faction, apart from fancy colours on the map?

I suspect its about the only way to balance the three major powers against independent ones - if the major ones are factionalised.
I agree that its a bit silly atm though - the power factions are just working together as best they can instead of fighting each other
 
I suspect its about the only way to balance the three major powers against independent ones - if the major ones are factionalised.
I agree that its a bit silly atm though - the power factions are just working together as best they can instead of fighting each other

I understand the need of fractioning the supporting player base, which is probably the reason of such division. However, from the undermining point of view, there's no difference in being undermined by 500 players from different powers or 500 players from the same one.

The only substantial difference can be in fortification, you can enhance your fortification coverage with more players. But it doesn't seem a major issue for the large powers, they're usually able to fortify everything they need.
 
Hehe, not surprising, no votes for Li Yong. Everyone loves Li Yong.

Perhaps everyone should simply join Li Yong and spread him all over the place! :D
 
Why no one like the imperial kitten? ... I mean she's nice, doesn't bother no-one and holds great parties. Where ya gonna get the jolly green shields from if she's not around? Eh eh? Different story then ...Wah wah wah, I can't get da uber shields noes moar...

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Goose4291

Banned
Well seen as the imperial powers have kept him in the bottom 3 pretty much since the start with the pegasi war, it stands to reason Archon should go (based on the guidelines we got regarding the removal of a power previously).
 
I'd vote to eject Antal. I don't participate in PP but I don't like his face... :D

What I'd really like is for them to add a REAL democratic power in the Federation, one that is not corrupted by corporations and stuff, and would scarcely rely on combat (and even then only for defensive reasons). That would have me perhaps have a closer look to PP than I had before.
 
But i have one particular bugbear that keeps annoying me. Its how static the whole thing is. It won't be long since PP has been around for a year, and in that time, not one power has failed. Initially it was stated that should a power stay in bottom place for several weeks it would be wiped out, but that never came to pass, despite i think a couple of powers qualifying.

The problem here is that the issue has been pushed. The beta manual said:

A power that is in the bottom three ranks of the galactic standing list is at risk of collapsing and vanishing altogether.

Simply being in the bottom three ranks does not automatically put the power at risk. It also has to fail to achieve any expansion during the cycle.

The more cycles a power is ranked in the bottom three and fails to expand, the more likely it will collapse.

With Overhead acting as it does, and with a number of Powers over 55 systems, and a number below 55 systems, it is likely going to be impossible to restrict a Power from expansion for long.

The way the manual states the reasons for collapse, the more I think they would only collapse a Power if it was truly down to under a dozen pledged CMDRs.
 
I really do agree with you here Agony Aunt. And that's coming from someone who actually participates in PP quite a lot. But there's no real sense of urgency since you know your power will be safe no matter what anyway. Undermining? Pah, the complete absence of any sort of threat to a power is what's actually undermining powerplay itself at the moment.
As an Imperial, I'll even go a step further and say that it should be an Empire power that should get the boot. I mean, 2 feds and 4 Imperials? That's a bit much isn't it?


(by all means though, it shouldn't be the Empress that should go. Arissa Invicta!) :D
 
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