I agree with this, I don't mind "cut scenes" per se, it's how they are delivered. If they interrupt the player then No! if they are on a screen, incoming message or similar then yes.
Would optional mission related video footage add anything to the game?
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I agree with this, I don't mind "cut scenes" per se, it's how they are delivered. If they interrupt the player then No! if they are on a screen, incoming message or similar then yes.
Mass Effect style cutscenes.. no. Actual discussions with the BB mission givers, info packages directly on my hud? Why not.
Actually I want one thing and one thing only from Mass Effect. The ability to dock with the Wedding Barge, float over and punch that guy who still hasn't said his vows. Over and over again...
Actually I want one thing and one thing only from Mass Effect. The ability to dock with the Wedding Barge, float over and punch that guy who still hasn't said his vows. Over and over again...
So folk are reading "cut scene" and getting the wrong idea, this was a bad choice of phrase on my part.
I mean't something more a button on the mission page where you can see some footage of the target/crime/whatever if you wanted to. Not some video taking over the whole screen or anything that you're actively forced to skip every single time.
It's hard to think of specific gameplay benefits this could offer, the only advantages I can really come up are :
On 1 that's all it is, a way to make the missions a bit more interesting, to add a bit of life and character to them, currently it's just text text text.
On 2, the nature of space combat, lots of great looking ships you never get to see. If the camera was well placed it'd be chance for folk to look at some pretty ships doing pew pew and see the engine in action.
On 3, an example... Both the UA and barnacles were "revealed" in YouTube trailers, I don't think this is ideal. They could have been revealed in some mission footage, for example for the rare meta-alloy mission there could have been a passing glimpse of the barnacle (as we saw in the trailer). This has the benefit of keeping it in-game rather than in a trailer lot's won't ever see.
You are able then to more directly "present" the mystery under the guise of a mission.
The SAP8 missions were brilliant :
But not because doing the mission was fun or anything, but because they hinted at some mystery. This had the effect of engaging a load of us in exploring all these missions trying to figure out various ways we could complete the for alternate endings, discussing what they mean't and so on....
Video would just be another avenue to present such things, an optional one, just don't click the video link if you're not bothered. Frontier do seem to want to present "clues" in a visual format, as I say they did it with both the UA and the barnacles.
Anyway, as I said it's totally arguable whether any of these actually add much. It's not gameplay as such, more an attempt to add some character to the game.
On dev time required, clearly it's gonna take time to implement, I am not sure it would require a huge amount of work though. A basic implementation could be to spawn a trader on 5% health with AI set to evade, spawn a combat ship with AI set to aggressive, then do something fancy with the camera to make it look impressive.
I mean't something more a button on the mission page where you can see some footage of the target/crime/whatever if you wanted to. Not some video taking over the whole screen or anything that you're actively forced to skip every single time.
It's hard to think of specific gameplay benefits this could offer, the only advantages I can really come up are :
- Immersion!! [rolleyes]
- An opportunity to show of the engine
- Story telling
On 1 that's all it is, a way to make the missions a bit more interesting, to add a bit of life and character to them, currently it's just text text text.
On 2, the nature of space combat, lots of great looking ships you never get to see. If the camera was well placed it'd be chance for folk to look at some pretty ships doing pew pew and see the engine in action.
On 3, an example... Both the UA and barnacles were "revealed" in YouTube trailers, I don't think this is ideal. They could have been revealed in some mission footage, for example for the rare meta-alloy mission there could have been a passing glimpse of the barnacle (as we saw in the trailer). This has the benefit of keeping it in-game rather than in a trailer lot's won't ever see.
You are able then to more directly "present" the mystery under the guise of a mission.
The SAP8 missions were brilliant :
But not because doing the mission was fun or anything, but because they hinted at some mystery. This had the effect of engaging a load of us in exploring all these missions trying to figure out various ways we could complete the for alternate endings, discussing what they mean't and so on....
Video would just be another avenue to present such things, an optional one, just don't click the video link if you're not bothered. Frontier do seem to want to present "clues" in a visual format, as I say they did it with both the UA and the barnacles.
Anyway, as I said it's totally arguable whether any of these actually add much. It's not gameplay as such, more an attempt to add some character to the game.
On dev time required, clearly it's gonna take time to implement, I am not sure it would require a huge amount of work though. A basic implementation could be to spawn a trader on 5% health with AI set to evade, spawn a combat ship with AI set to aggressive, then do something fancy with the camera to make it look impressive.
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Suggestion: add it in the transactions screen. People have been complaining about supercruise waiting times. Well, when you're on a mission, go to transactions tab, open the transaction and have a small screen inbedded with the footage of the mission briefing.
Or bits and pieces of informations about the target.
Like some sort of a briefing.
I mean, I'd never pay someone 200K credits to go and kill someone and then just say, "well- he's called Whatchamacallit McDunno, and he is in that star system". I'd add all the info I can muster, if I really want him dead! ! D:<
Yeah, I could get behind something like that.
The point was made in the OP.
THe mission footage would be procedurally generated in the context of the mission, using the game engine, it's unlikely it would be prerecorded. Not that that would mean it doesn't get skipped or anything.
It could even play in the background of the mission page with an option to foreground it. Point being it should be realistic so if in the footage you see an Elite rated Anaconda accompanied by a couple of Vultures, well... prepare your anus.
Lots of options and ways it could be done.
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As I said, go and play Mass Effect, I hated its childish narrative and limited game-play. Please leave Elite alone.
Its fine that you liked it and I didn't that is why I play Elite, because it isn't like that.
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I believe that "CUT SCENE" is the wrong word, and actually not what OP wanted? more like some kind of misson briefing you can watch during the "select mission" or in you ship as a reminder or as an incoming MSG?
When I first saw the subject title, I thought "No chance" plus DBOBE said in an interview once that he does not like cut scenes in general.
Having read your proposal, there is some merit in it but it would be low on the backlog. Speaking of the top 5 bounties list though, I would hope when the character generator is out, those commanders that appear on it have their avatar appear on the list - ideally mugshot style.
I'd not mind a mission-related cutscene which show'd me what exactly is e.g. my assassination target flying.
But aside that particular case cutscenes are pretty much just 'fluff', and oh boy I hate cutscenes which are not skippable... Some may enjoy them, some not - kinda akin to youtube's great many nonsensical 'guide' vids - what they ramble on for minutes could be conveyed with a line of text, simpler and less irritating to try extract the necessary barebones info from.
So all in all, no, for me cutscenes wouldn't add anything.
But aside that particular case cutscenes are pretty much just 'fluff', and oh boy I hate cutscenes which are not skippable... Some may enjoy them, some not - kinda akin to youtube's great many nonsensical 'guide' vids - what they ramble on for minutes could be conveyed with a line of text, simpler and less irritating to try extract the necessary barebones info from.
So all in all, no, for me cutscenes wouldn't add anything.
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To me, cut scenes are about conveying "story". With a sandbox universe and no campaign, I don't think cut scenes will add value.
NO - absolutely no cut scenes thanks very much.