Is it time for FD to let us submit emblems for our ships?

[Enderby]

No. It's time for a whole lot of other stuff rather than this .

 

[Infidel Deity]

Actually, I do not expect many penises. But I do expect some players/groups to come out sporting SS Totenkopf insignas or something like that.

And I can't really see that as a problem either.
If someone do put such symbols on their ships, and someone else actually sees it; they will most likely get reported and thus the problem is solved.
Even stuff from the age of Adolf, is totally undangerous.
It's nothing more than symbols from a system that failed totally.
So; if someone wants to put looser-symbols on their ships, it's really only their problem.

 

[Enderby]

Swastikas - there'll be swastikas.... Yes the idiots are out there.

 

[xondk]

And I can't really see that as a problem either.
If someone do put such symbols on their ships, and someone else actually sees it; they will most likely get reported and thus the problem is solved.
Even stuff from the age of Adolf, is totally undangerous.
It's nothing more than symbols from a system that failed totally.
So; if someone wants to put looser-symbols on their ships, it's really only their problem.

Swastikas - there'll be swastikas.... Yes the idiots are out there.

Unfortunately we live in a world where international companies are at the mercy of lowest common denominator and it only takes one lawsuit, for the costs of said lawsuit beginning to cost them money, and you just know someone will see it and get offended, that said my community idea above might work, seen it work in other games.

 

[PiLhEaD]

I don't think this is a bad idea. However the chances of me ever being close enough to another CMDR and have enough time to think 'oooh cute anime emblem', or nod in appreciation at the battle-conda named 'Feersum Endjin', are going to be somewhere around the absolute-zero mark.

So, long as the emblems and/or ship names are only visible locally (e.g. to the player themselves), then I simply don't care - and I think the 'selfies' will be much more fun with emblems/ship names available.

However as soon as it becomes an overhead (be it in curating the emblems/ship names, or in additional network traffic no matter how minute) then I'm much less inclined to want it.

I looked for the 'there's a lot of other stuff I'd want in ED before I want any effort spent on this' option on the poll, but alas couldn't see it - where other things include more variety in paint packs, paint packs for more ships (e.g. the FaS), ability to changed HUD colours via the options, Thargoids, better planet surfaces, more bobbleheads, more ships... ...it's a long list...

 

[CMDR Taipo]

While it will be abused, horribly, I voted yes. Archeage has this for ship sails and doesn't spike your internet connection. The size of these are pretty small. On a peer to peer, I'm not sure for those already having issues what would happen, but in AA it was just the default sail until it finished downloading, again size was a few Kb, nothing that should be noticeable.

but yes, plenty of nudes, d$&@butts etc... Kids will be kids

 

[Marnoch]

Yes for recognized player groups over a certain size.
Yes for powers and such.
Otherwise no.

But there really are much better things for FD to be doing...

 

[Pyrebird]

I think the ship naming and emblem customization should both be included, free of charge. You have to earn those abilities, but free nonetheless.

Why are people so eager to throw money at a company for a feature that is basic in every other game?
I mean, seriously. Even CoD has this stuff. You don't get more bottom of the barrel than that.

 

[DaveB]

Unfortunately we live in a world where international companies are at the mercy of lowest common denominator and it only takes one lawsuit, for the costs of said lawsuit beginning to cost them money, and you just know someone will see it and get offended, that said my community idea above might work, seen it work in other games.

There are simple ways for FD to shield themselves from such lawsuits. Clauses in the terms you agree to when uploading the texture. Provided FD respond to stuff that is offensive and reported as such, and to reports of IP violation by the holder of those IP rights by promptly removing that content from the game (from the server that hosts it so no clients render it any more and it no longer appears in the livery tab of any player) there's nothing to sue them over. Other folks have done this and similarly insulated themselves from this risk. FD could do the same. They just need to have the right policies in place and the right lawyer writing the ToS for it.

 

[Windscreen Smudge]

Unfortunately we live in a world where international companies are at the mercy of lowest common denominator and it only takes one lawsuit, for the costs of said lawsuit beginning to cost them money, and you just know someone will see it and get offended, that said my community idea above might work, seen it work in other games.

That's why every game has this clause in the EULA.

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Or some manner thereof. Which makes the idea of a lawsuit regarding this topic laughable.

Now I don't know about how it works in the U.K. but in the U.S. if you file a civil lawsuit against someone and lose because you had no basis for a case, you pay the defendant's legal fees. Prevents most frivolous lawsuits, especially from individuals directed at companies since the company typically has a legal team that costs several multiples of what the individual's costs.

 

[DaveB]

That's why every game has this clause in the EULA.



Or some manner thereof. Which makes the idea of a lawsuit regarding this topic laughable.

Now I don't know about how it works in the U.K. but in the U.S. if you file a civil lawsuit against someone and lose because you had no basis for a case, you pay the defendant's legal fees. Prevents most frivolous lawsuits, especially from individuals directed at companies since the company typically has a legal team that costs several multiples of what the individual's costs.

Tort law in the UK isn't that much different from that in the US. If you lose, particularly if you had no case to begin with, you can expect a motion for an award of costs to succeed.

UK judges are just less political than in the US.

 

[kpmop]

Voted No. I think maybe there should be a few more generic ones for factions and PP and maybe some special cases etc but I think they need to keep some exclusivity like the Distant Worlds one they're doing (and no I didn't take part) but if every CMDR and their sidewinder has some custom decal it'd detract from that.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

I think a compromise could be implemented...

Single/Lone Wolf Players : wide set of FDev-created (official) Decals... like an ELITE Clipart Gallery, naturally including all Governments and a subset of special Faction Decals (Pilots Federation, Dark Wheel, Sirius Corp... all the major Players)

Solo Mode : everything goes, full customization (as noone but the Player can see it, no PEGI 7 issues in-game) ; caviat : those won't carry over into any other Mode

Custom Logos for Group/Open : can be submitted together with Player Group and/or Player Faction creation, subject to screening by FDev

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Fully aware that this wouldn't be the perfect solution, but IMHO it would be a big - yet safe - step forward, with a completely reasonable amount of effort to implement.

 

[Axel Deathrage]

I'm all for it. Customizing things is always nice.

 

[Silk]

It'd be cool for the triple Elite and dangerous ranked groups have the power to control their emblem.

 

[STINKFISH]

A level of personalization NEEDS to be implemented for free in the game of Elite Dangerous that many detractors are calling soulless and empty - more "ME" is needed - not just putting a simple tattoo on ur ship...

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

It'd be cool for the triple Elite and dangerous ranked groups have the power to control their emblem.

We haven't even got to the point of everyone having some customization yet.
Doesn't matter what rank anyone is, there'll always be the risk of humans pushing it. And, if anything, it's those who try the hardest that are usually the worst for it.
See other games like BF4 and APB for details.

 

[frostypaw]

Surely what you pay for is not having a special tool, but having your emblem/name properly verified, registered and approved?

 

[avow555]

Sell no, give yes.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Surely what you pay for is not having a special tool, but having your emblem/name properly verified, registered and approved?

It's the time taken to verify such things would be one of the problems.
And, once money is involved, then players will demand their candy which would force Dev time to deal with any and all issues which will ultimately detract from further planned progress for the game.
It's just a recipe for disaster and not needed unless it can be done in such a way where it doesn't cause drama.