What went wrong with Elite Dangerous
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That doesn't count as evidence I'm afraid. Quite the opposite.
True, it's not the owned station per se, but rather the implementation of such a beast as described by those campaigning for it.
Sole Hunter
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no it does a good developer will look at all sides, there is a reason why they do ama on reddits.
Robert Maynard
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Of course they will look at all sides - and they will decide on a course of action designed to please as many / upset as few players as possible.
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What is wrong with ED? Early access, it was fine for starting the game but now it has to go away. We cant have releases like horizons, even early access has to offer something more then the previous game. Hopefully they learned their lesson but if they didnt Ive holstered my wallet this year, for fdev and blizzard, Im not buying hype vapor anymore.
Do you think there would be as many complaints about 'nothing to do' if new users feeling a bit lost and look online find:
A- People dissing Frontier and Elite as hard as possible because FOR THEM they'd prefer spreadsheets or pure PvP
B- People pointing out all the content that hasn't been touched yet and all the groups and activities (races/exploration/competitions/cgs/vigilantes) that people have brought to the table?
Sure have an opinion, but by pressing it so hard you might be the most harmful thing to this game.
A- People dissing Frontier and Elite as hard as possible because FOR THEM they'd prefer spreadsheets or pure PvP
B- People pointing out all the content that hasn't been touched yet and all the groups and activities (races/exploration/competitions/cgs/vigilantes) that people have brought to the table?
Sure have an opinion, but by pressing it so hard you might be the most harmful thing to this game.
Dont really see the problem.
Considering the amount of population in each system compared to Federation pilots (players) it would just be unrealistic to let player organisations OWN stations or in any major way control ANY economic venue.
Federation Pilots are a MINISCULE minority in a VAST human population and giving such a minority THAT kind of power is a bit odd - especially since the federation of pilots are a neutral party in many ways and already own a system.
That said, I WOULD like to see TINY outposts/refuelling station being able to be built by players to make waystations out in the black or landing pads on planets that need a support structure.
Considering the amount of population in each system compared to Federation pilots (players) it would just be unrealistic to let player organisations OWN stations or in any major way control ANY economic venue.
Federation Pilots are a MINISCULE minority in a VAST human population and giving such a minority THAT kind of power is a bit odd - especially since the federation of pilots are a neutral party in many ways and already own a system.
That said, I WOULD like to see TINY outposts/refuelling station being able to be built by players to make waystations out in the black or landing pads on planets that need a support structure.
Sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying there.
All I am saying is the poster I replied to was pretty sure the majority of people feel the same as him/her and clearly you. I don't believe that to be true and asked for evidence.
I mean think about it. What if, just maybe, you're wrong?
Nope, this is not exclusive to any specific group, but a behaviour that is spread amongst players, there's been several other 'groups' that have been a gathering of such players, CODE has been accused of such as well amongst many others. And not exclusive to Elite.
It is a type of player that exists to hurt others, which is an unfortunate thing, but they do exist, but even so attitude, accusing others of being carebears, does not really put yourself in a good light, because at least as far as I see it a lot of those accused, are not 'care bears' but simply despise one...one...specific player type of players, those only there to be disruptive. That and that alone, and those kind of people do exist, despite what others seem to try to deny, and they do that, by saying it is the fault of the 'care bears' because the griefer/aggressors are doing nothing wrong. And that's what you seem to be doing when you pull out the "care bears" flag. Seemingly placing yourself squarely in the "they are doing nothing wrong, you are just a care bear, and don't want anything bad to happen ever" group.
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Unfortunately, my experience is that people will never even consider the thought that they might be what is harming the game way more then developers are by being a bit silent.
And admitting that other games now looked at as shining examples of how to do things "right", rarely started out that way and was likely not a quick process either, is not going to happen either.
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Ozric
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Yes this is a very good point indeed. Even if you take EvE as an example, very few people like to remember that when it was released it didn't even have missions in it.
Argumentum ad populum is a classic fallacious argument.
In my eyes, nothing went wrong with ED. Have great fun, enjoying exploring at the mo. Been playing since gamma/beta a year and a half ago. Looking forward to all the improvements that are coming as well.
I do not want EVE style guilds, corporations and guild run stations in the game, that for me isn't an improvement and I would likely end up playing in solo if that happens.
I do not want EVE style guilds, corporations and guild run stations in the game, that for me isn't an improvement and I would likely end up playing in solo if that happens.
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Sole Hunter
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I don't mind being wrong do you? lots of people seem to agree with player owned stations. Btw i'm just using this as an example. I understand where you are going, I'm just saying they will take steam/reddit feedback into consideration if they think it's good for the game development process.
Think about it why would they waste their time with ama, Q&A and post on reddit if they didn't think it was important?
even frontier customer support answer on reddit!
I could say the same thing about you. It doesn't put you in a good light to believe we hurt others because we destroy their pixel spaceship in a video game. It's all a matter of opinion. It's very subjective but killing other cmdrs for no reason is part of the game.
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Please quote sources.
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Is there something wrong? I enjoy the game more than ever.
As far as I can tell by a quick skimming. It seems the people on reddit complaining mostly are:
1. Wanting Elite to be Elite+the old game they agve up on. EvE is a good example.
2. Wanting Elite to be the hype of the game they dream of, but doesn't deliver. Star Citizen is a good example.
As far as I can tell by a quick skimming. It seems the people on reddit complaining mostly are:
1. Wanting Elite to be Elite+the old game they agve up on. EvE is a good example.
2. Wanting Elite to be the hype of the game they dream of, but doesn't deliver. Star Citizen is a good example.
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