BREAKING NEWS: The Code lost Orrere, Tvasus, and Zaonce!

[Lemonhoko]

Who the heck are The Code? Why is them losing systems a thing?
Bit confused about this thread =/

They are a group of players like Smiling Dog Crew that applied to get a system ...that doesnt care about their system that was given to them.
Basically a waste of dev time.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

They are a very vocal pirate/comedy group: their home system has been undermined.

To be fair the times when I watched them streaming they at least gave their prey a chance to power down and comply .. sadly most didn't, thinking they could outrun the pirates; were blown up as a result; and from time to time said victims came here moaning about it. Sure, code have rubbed salt into wounds themselves, and done/said some really dumb things (who hasn't ? ) but from my perspective they were a welcome addition to the galaxy at the very least to give open some spice (the game on the whole is quite static and runs at a very slow pace)

The norm today seems to just be a murderer which is a shame as that mentality (yes, murderers can be so if they want) has contributed to people leaving open.

All said and done - I have no idea if code people really did care about the BGS : probably about as much as I do (it's there to be milked for money to get nice toys to play in and that's about it)

 

[TomP]

To be fair the times when I watched them streaming they at least gave their prey a chance to power down and comply .. sadly most didn't, thinking they could outrun the pirates; were blown up as a result; and from time to time said victims came here moaning about it. Sure, code have rubbed salt into wounds themselves, and done/said some really dumb things (who hasn't ? ) but from my perspective they were a welcome addition to the galaxy at the very least to give open some spice (the game on the whole is quite static and runs at a very slow pace) The norm today seems to just be a murderer which is a shame as that mentality (yes, their way of playing I know) has contributed to people leaving open.

All said and done - I have no idea if code people really did care about the BGS : probably about as much as I do (it's there to be milked for money to get nice toys to play in and that's about it)

Sure, I'm not sure why anybody is assuming I think otherwise?! They are hugely entertaining.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Sure, I'm not sure why anybody is assuming I think otherwise?! They are hugely entertaining.

I think I just misunderstood your post and felt the need to say something nice.

Not like the forum posters after you - using the "in" term they sounded salty

 

[Lemonhoko]

All said and done - I have no idea if code people really did care about the BGS : probably about as much as I do (it's there to be milked for money to get nice toys to play in and that's about it)

Why would a group apply for a system of their own if they dont care for it???

Waste of everyones time to be honest.

 

[GluttonyFang]

That's was unnecessary an entirely off-topic. I said I was paraphrasing, and I was. The quote was originally made in "The Gay Science", and was popularised in "...Zarathustra", so you might want to check your references before casting aspersions. Just to make it easy, and to further spell it out: I was saying that people mis-quote that phrase much like you did, and also mis-read it much as you did. It is meant to mean "in the absence of God, how will mankind orient its morality?", being the question which led Nietzsche to his idea of the Overman. I was using it in relation to Code in order to say "who will take the place of the boogeymen?" with a bit of sarcasm, especially considering how the Archon gets demonised..

Except that Nietzsche's usage of "God is dead" is symbolic of a historical account in reference to his work Twilight of the Idols in conjunction to Beyond Good and Evil (he fleshes it out more so here), where he thoroughly explain the stages of philosophy and well known philosophers (starting with Plato) where truth became untruth. So I don't think I misread it whatsoever, it's that the context of morality which you employ could have been better conveyed. I did read that you paraphrased it, thus I thought you were entering in depth of his work, not the superficial surface.

Edit:

The reason why I didn't mention The Gay Science and Sprach Zarathustra is because the ideas there by Nietzsche that aren't fully fleshed out. The works I mentioned are written more succinctly and has more philosophical development, which you can very much read yourself to see.

I should stop trying to make posts with any amounts of ambiguity in here at all, I suppose. I literally explained how I was paraphrasing it afterwards in the original post, but I guess that wasn't enough for you to get it. You saw a chance to pull someone up on a minor thing and completely missed the point, again.

I'm merely asking what page do you refer to specifically in what work and what context you are entertaining, there is no need for knee jerk reaction. Nietzsche's works are expansive, so I expected a little more explanation if you do want to invoke his writing.

Y'know, this highlights the whole point about these threads. People are too busy pushing their own type of troll or playstyle to allow for a balanced game or active community, hence those of us that want to get things done seem to work fine outside of it. As a Delaine supporter that does it because we all have fun, I can see how easily a community can polarise against pirates that don't even pirate. I can't blame them for getting worked up about the Hutton blockade when the PR campaign equated to "we're gonna blow you up after an hour's SC because it's fun!". That's why I'm happy sticking w/ Kumo and Black Omega: we're more about how chill you are than how good you are, and we care more about how much fun we have playing than the way we want to play...

Funny, that's a lot of inaccurate accusations. Not to mention that people were given a chance to leave at Hutton to my knowledge. There were also a period of compensation for those who feel wrongly treated, a simple search on our forum can tell you more than enough, it's funny how little research people do, isn't it?

Also, I don't remember when is there a combat exam necessary to join or remain in The Code, we just had one of our explorer put on the community spotlight, for example (though he is also combat ready, not that we knew, but that he is).

Edit:

Btw, you're welcome for my coordination for Archon for five months straight (toughest time when everyone more or less invested in PP).

...oh, and with a few exceptions, we try our best to be courteous in our communications and did I mention we know how to separate RL from RP? Some minor factions and PP groups can have trouble with that, I've found. No names mentioned this time, as we can all think of 8 different examples ourselves, I'm sure.

tl;dr? - I'm tired of finding bad eggs in nice handbaskets.

Tl;dr? I'm getting tired of seeing knee jerk reactions.

 

[Roybe]

So, thus far we have arquebuss, who's never posted anywhere since his or her introduction thread (so probably an alt), and Apos as our suspects...

Nah, doesn't sit well with me. An organised group must have been involved if it wasn't a faction suicide.

So the next question is, who hates CODE enough to have a motive, enough dedication do pull it off, and enough discipline to keep it quiet? There can't be that many, can there?

Based on that description there are only a couple of groups I know that could have pulled that off and been quiet about it.

Hate to see Code displaced...but it was going to happen sooner or later.

 

[TomP]

I think I just misunderstood your post and felt the need to say something nice.

Not like the forum posters after you - using the "in" term they sounded salty

Oh, I do a lot of cooking, salt is a real concept to me. I just think this is quite an interesting development. I'm one of those types who quietly likes playing the game. I enjoy the BGS, the interaction, and the forum banter. I think most posters on this thread probably have a soft spot for The Code. We are all human. Except for the Banana.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Why would a group apply for a system of their own if they dont care for it???

Why shouldn't they ? If it's on the table being offered to large player groups, specifically to those that bring something to the community, why shouldn't they say yes ?

Waste of everyones time to be honest.

You're not being honest though - you're not a Dev to know if it was a waste of time.

As for it being a waste of time for players.. well, you/your friends had fun flipping a system that belonged to a group that you seem so bent out of shape over, didn't you ?

 

[Lemonhoko]

Oh, I do a lot of cooking, salt is a real concept to me. I just think this is quite an interesting development. I'm one of those types who quietly likes playing the game. I enjoy the BGS, the interaction, and the forum banter. I think most posters on this thread probably have a soft spot for The Code. We are all human. Except for the Banana.

No compassion for the Code here....they mocked our cmdrs with the "Salty" tears thingy, constantly.
Its fun to watch the salt gather now on those that seemed to like to mine it.

 

[Jypson]

Based on that description there are only a couple of groups I know that could have pulled that off and been quiet about it.

Hate to see Code displaced...but it was going to happen sooner or later.

Unless I missed something, all that was lost was their name on a few systems, right? It's not like they're all going to quit playing for good. I'm not sure why everyone is acting like this is a postmortem or something. Am I missing something?

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Except for the Banana.

That made me smile .. where's a banana when you need one ?

(+rep)

 

[Soliluna]

They are a group of players like Smiling Dog Crew that applied to get a system ...that doesnt care about their system that was given to them.
Basically a waste of dev time.

The dev's don't put player factions in the game, the Community Manager Brett looks after them afaik.

 

[Lemonhoko]

Why shouldn't they ? If it's on the table being offered to large player groups, specifically to those that bring something to the community, why shouldn't they say yes ?



You're not being honest though - you're not a Dev to know if it was a waste of time.

As for it being a waste of time .. well, you/your friends had fun flipping a system that belonged to a group that you seem so bent out of shape over, didn't you ?

You should get yopur facts straight...Like I said previously, I was not envolved with this...but I do commend those that were.

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The dev's don't put player factions in the game, the Community Manager Brett looks after them afaik.

So....its ok to waste the time of our community manager with this?

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

You should get yopur facts straight...Like I said previously, I was not envolved with this...but I do commend those that were.

It might be why I put "you/your friends" as tbh I don't know who you are nor what your involvement was, other than coming here and contributing to the "let's bash code" thread

 

[TomP]

So....its ok to waste the time of our community manager with this?

Aw, knock it off. They provide content!

 

[Soliluna]

You should get yopur facts straight...Like I said previously, I was not envolved with this...but I do commend those that were.

So....its ok to waste the time of our community manager with this?

I didn't agree with you, just wanted to clarify that it's the community manager that handles it.

 

[Lemonhoko]

It might be why I put "you/your friends" as tbh I don't know who you are nor what your involvement was, other than coming here and contributing to the "let's bash code" thread

How did I bash Code?

I stated my displeasure in a group that would apply for a system in their name but refuses to defend or nurture that system.
If they didnt want the system and the responsiblity of upkeep, why apply in the first place.
Takes FD man hours away from doing other important things.
Whether Code, SDC or any other group that doesnt care for their own system...Im displeased at the fact they would waste man hours at FD for something they dont even care for.

 

[Siobhan]

Aw, knock it off. They provide content!

Well they provide something anyway. Not sure if it's content, salty tears or adrenaline. Maybe all of those.
But let's not waste time with accusations of time wasting. Unless a dev or a brett comes here to tell us so, then they probably don't much care.

Now, let's talk about the more important issue of my having missed an entire day of play, and hence of grinding at the Majestic CG, due to reading this thread. Who's going to compensate me for that?

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

So....its ok to waste the time of our community manager with this?

Only Brett would know that.